• Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world
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    I mean, that kind of speaks to why “purple” is not the major win we like to think it is.

    Because people who are strongly liberal/leftist tend to not view “I am going to move to Bumfuck, Arkansas and just get some blackout shades so that I don’t see the cross burnings” as being at all an option. Which really sucks. Because raising a family (or just being an older introvert) in a city kind of sucks.

    Like, I know a lot of people who did the California->Austin exodus over the past five or six years. And they all claim they are insanely liberal and are going to a bastion of sanity. But… they also make strong statements regarding where tax money should go, got incredibly pissy when a trans friend asked them to not talk about terf-wizards game, etc.

    Which is why you won’t see someone like AOC getting elected in those “purple” states. We are looking at DINOs and “moderate” republicans like romney. Which… is still a LOT better than magats like trump and desantis. But, at best, that gets us back to 90s/00s levels of “we are fucked”.

    “Purple” is a battleground state. Which is a hell of a lot better than a solid red state but still benefits republicans with even an iota of charisma (so… not the magats).

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      Sometimes I see people saying raising a family in a city sucks and oof, man, my experience growing up in the suburbs was a nightmare. Can’t go anywhere. Nothing to do. Can’t even see friends unless I can convince my parents to drive me.

      People I knew growing up in the city had freedom. I was always so jealous.

      Maybe it’s different if your nearest city is some car hell hole instead of New York.

      Apologies for the tangent

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        There’s a middle ground. I’m in a true small city of 10K and I love it. The city is all of 10 miles square. It has all the basics movie theater, most chains, etc. The city isn’t walkable, but it is bikeable and I’ve found that to be good enough. I grew up in a city like this and I wanted that for my kid. We still drive into the local metro maybe once a month, but I don’t ever need to go into the metro for basics.

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      But I’m not talking about moving fuck all no where. I’m talking about expanding the range impact of cities. We got this way because people all moved to cities. If people spread like a wave away from cities, then the power impact decreases. My town is went from a Christian stronghold where you couldn’t drink and everything was closed on Sunday to a place where a Republicans have to battle for local spots and most highly religious laws have been repealed.

      Im halfway between 2 major cities. One is the major metro and the other a mid-size city. It used to be very red going 30 minutes away from either, but now we have a sea of purple. And areas are only getting bluer.

      Everywhere in GA outside of like 4 cities is bumbfuck, but being I proximity of cities and growing small towns into midsized cities is the way to win. When I was a kid my hometown was bumfuck, GA. Now it’s a major city (for GA. I mean it’s sub-1 million by a lot) and solidly blue when it used to be very red.

      We won’t see an AOC type for a long time, but a moderate republican (not a Manchin type) is a way better platform than any republican.

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        Ignoring the societal and cultural impact of gentrification:

        Again. Moving out to bumfuck is just not something that “leftist” people do. It is slowly shifting the local politics but you are still looking at very “moderate” candidates.

        What you are describing is basically just urban sprawl. “The Bay Area” extending dozens of miles inland at this point is a good example of this. Also, the entirety of the state of New Jersey relative to NYC (never turn down an opportunity to piss off New Jersey). It is the idea that people move to the city, want to buy a house (or just not live in the city), and move an hour or so away.

        And THIS is how you actually stay liberal/progressive. But is also a much longer timeframe and is increasingly impacted by housing prices. Just adding 30 minutes to your commute to buy a townhouse really isn’t an option for the vast majority of the country at this point. Which gets you into that mess of “Well, I can either live next to someone with a twenty foot confederate flag or pay rent the rest of my life…” state

        And also? Urban Sprawl is a known concept. Gerrymandering stepped up its game to handle it.