The judge who signed off on a search warrant authorizing the raid of a newspaper office in Marion, Kansas, is facing a complaint about her decision and has been asked by a judicial body to respond, records shared with CNN by the complainant show.
The judge who signed off on a search warrant authorizing the raid of a newspaper office in Marion, Kansas, is facing a complaint about her decision and has been asked by a judicial body to respond, records shared with CNN by the complainant show.
She should have been removed immediately. Perfect example of everything wrong with the American justice system
in the good ol’ days it would have been by an angry mob with pitchforks and hot tar
We are civilized now boy… Fuck ur rights
didn’t get your meds today i guess
Weak reading skillz
The social contract is unraveling.
We’ll get back to those days soon enough.
No it wouldn’t, quit your bullshit
People in the past have stood up to the cops for much less. They would stand up to them evicting people from their houses and all kinds of stuff. Now they literally get away with murder with almost nothing being done to them.
The justice system generally allows everyone a chance to defend themselves. People aren’t removed immediately for the same reason they aren’t executed immediately.
I’m talking about firing. Not imprisonment. And yes, if you fuck up big time, it’s completely fine to be fired on the spot. She issued a search warrant for a journalist, in complete violation of State and Federal law.
Her contract almost certainly requires due process before she is terminated under these circumstances.
And while not all workers in the US get that protection, it would be better if they did.
Kansas is an at will state. They can fire her because Tuesday is a day of the week.
At will is simply the default, so it only applies to workers without an employment contract.
She is a government official, and most certainly has a contract that specifies termination procedures.
Keep in mind that at will cuts both ways, it allows workers to quit at any time without notice. The government really, really doesn’t want judges to peace out in the middle of a trial. So the contract provides penalties for both sides if termination procedures aren’t followed.
I’m sorry but this is really funny. Her “contract” is the state constitution.
https://kslib.info/829/Article-3-Judicial
Whatever her contract specifies has to be consistent with the constitution, but her contract covers a lot more than that. It’s not like she can look through the constitution to find her PTO policy.
Elected offical’s compensation packages are codified, not contracted. This is a really bizarre rabbit hole you’ve went down.
The constitution and state law must be in keeping with any employment contract. That doesn’t mean there is no employment contract.
Without an employment contract, there is no penalty if an employee suddenly decides to quit. If you are at will (no contract), giving notice to your employer is merely a courtesy.
The government does not want judges to suddenly quit in the middle of a trial, for the same reason that hospitals don’t want doctors to quit in the middle of a patient appointment. Those kinds of employees need contracts.
Among other things, the contract specifies termination procedures. This may include a requirement to give notice and also limit the opportunity for summary firing.
An example of an employment contract for a judge can be found here.
It may not be a contract persay, but it does seem to support the idea that some amount of due process is required. I’d agree that there should be some option to more rapidly suspend a judge, but the constitution you quote says she gets a hearing before dismissal.
I wasn’t really arguing that they couldn’t dismiss them, just that the dismissal of an elected official being mediated by employment law is… an interesting approach.
This judge is not an elected official.
She was appointed but has to be voted for every 4 years.
What state and federal laws? Not trolling, genuinely have been searching and asking for an explanation. The probable cause seems clear from having read the warrant. I think the paper owner even admitted it’s employee broke the records law.
President and law is to issue a subpoena. Basically ask instead of demand. It’s to insure newspapers first amendment rights.
Based on your dodgy command of English I’m going to give your statements on criminal procedure very little weight.
Okay
Sorry friend, but they’re right, you’re wrong and to dismiss them over a spelling error is arrogant and ignorant. The warrant was for someone at the paper allegedly illegally accessing someone’s driving record (1). Kansas has a law that protects driver’s records, but it has a carve out for journalists with a legitimate need to access that info (2). Even if that legitimate need doesn’t exist, this is a civil cause of action and not a criminal proceeding (3), so a subpoena from the aggrieved party would be appropriate and a warrant for the police to raid both the office and a journalist’s home is a massive overstep, obviously intended to punish someone before they’ve even been accused of a crime. The warrant has since been withdrawn by the county attorney, who directed that all seized materials be returned and all copies of seized data be destroyed (4).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/08/26/marion-county-newspaper-police-raid-what-really-happened/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://kansasreflector.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Law-re-Drivers-Records.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj77__bmqiBAxUdEVkFHQicAYYQFnoECBgQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1Bz9NbY8Am9kfCqt5zgeS-
https://www.kansas.gov/mvr/#:~:text=It is unlawful for personal,of the personal information released.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/08/16/judge-withdraws-warrant-marion-country-record-raid-kansas/70597424007/
It’s a federal law and there is no carve out for journalists. I linked the statute elsewhere.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. The warrant was part of a criminal investigation by police, not any civil lawsuit.
And you didn’t even read your own links.
The DPPA has no exception for journalists.
is a very interesting way to interpret
Seems like I’m not the one who doesn’t read my links
and yet us commoners are frequently arrested and detained without cause. Yes, police can and do fuck up peoples’ lives and make them sit in jail for days just to have charges dropped in many cases. You could whine and say it’s rare, but once is too much vs the rules they’re SUPPOSED to operate under.
Do not defend a two-faced “justice” system.
If some people are treated unjustly, the solution is not to treat everyone unjustly.
But thats the issue, there is no issue to fix the unjustness.
They… are executed immediately.
See all the police killings of innocent people?
The judicial system allows those with wealth to game it so they don’t have to play by the same rules as everyone else. Remember the affluenza kid who killed for people while driving recklessly? What about the other rich white male who literally raped a girl and got off because ‘it could damage his future.’
Meanwhile, poor black folk get executed for no-knock search warrants when the cops go to the wrong place.
Police know to be more lenient with people that have status (wealth.) That’s why we just got a recording with a pig laughing about a cop running over a pedestrian because she ‘was of low value.’
If you don’t notice how the justice system doesn’t serve you, you’re not paying attention.
I’ve been loosely following this story and I read the warrant applications. You seem certain this is outrageous. Could you explain why?
What was wrong with the warrant? The police seem to have had good probable cause. I’m a huge advocate for free press, but I’ve yet to hear a legal argument for what is so objectionable, here.
The probable cause statement wasn’t even filed until after the warrant was issued and raid occurred.
https://thehill.com/media/4155087-publisher-newspaper-raided-police-says-timing-probable-cause-affidavit-suspicious/
Oh snap, I hadn’t seen that detail reported yet.
Elsewhere I see:
That’s very suspect.
The top prosecutor, who ordered the seized materials be returned, said themselves that “insufficient evidence exists to establish a legally sufficient nexus between this alleged crime and the places searched and the items seized.” There was never probable cause, no evidence that this alleged illegal access ever happened. There never should have been a warrant in the first place.
On what grounds? What was wrong with the warrant? Did you read it? I realize it’s all been tossed after the shit hit the fan.
Not sure what you’re asking when you say “on what grounds”.
The warrant was issued without any evidence supporting it, which I thought I made clear in my comment.
I did read it, it’s linked within the article OP posted that we’re replying too, or maybe it’s a couple clicks away.
The fact that shit hit the fan seems like a red flag to me that things were wrong from the get go. Cops get away with misconduct every day, for it to make national news means they probably acted indefensibly inappropriately.
You’re saying the warrant was issued without supporting evidence because the affidavit was filed after the warrant was served?
I don’t know what the recording requirements in that court are. It may be that affidavits are submitted sealed and then not filed until after the warrant is served. That doesn’t seem out of the scope of ordinary to me.
I’m not sure it’s filing means the judge didn’t see it.
They should have issued a subpoena, like every other case. Also the judge ordered the return of seized items from the search. Not a good sign of confidence in your legality.
A subpoena is a demand to appear issued by a lawyer. A witness has to be subpoenaed to something. You subpoena testimony, usually by deposition, to a hearing or to a grand jury. A subpoena duces tecum is a subpoena to show up and testify and bring documents, too.
Government subpoenas are usually in connection with civil enforcement. In the criminal context, they are to compel a witness to a grand jury or to testify at a pretrial deposition or at trial after the suspect as been charged, or in the case of secret proceedings, when a grand jury has convened.
Police use warrants not subpoenas.