Apple forced to ditch iPhone lightning charger::Apple confirms new iPhone 15 will have a common USB-C charging port after EU forces it into the change.

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    as every accessory with a lightning port just became e-waste. I guess Mother Nature didn’t see that.

    I think it’s interesting that you see this as USB-C’s fault.

    If Apple had stuck to a standard connector they would have been on usb-c in a year or two anyway and none of that e-waste would exist.

    Or if they went back on their word and switched to usb-c from lightning after a couple years, there would also be way less Lightning e-waste. What do you think happens to all those Lightning accessories when someone switches from iPhone to a different device?

    Apple’s proprietary Lightning connector is responsible for the e-waste, not USB-C or regulators.

    These regulations will stop companies like Apple making proprietary connectors purely for profit that generate all the e-waste in the first place.

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      There were no good standards when Lightning was released. There were several different USB options… mini, micro, etc, all of which only worked one way and sucked to use. If I remember correctly there was also something related to audio that USB at the time wasn’t good at, which lightning could handle. Hence the removal of the headphone jack.

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        USB-C was finalized 2 years later so the decade of Lighting e-waste is still on Apple for holding out as long as they did.

        Maybe instead of designing a whole new Lightning connector they should have been pioneers and been one of the first to make a USB-C phone.

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          No one wants a new connector every 2 years. When Lightning was announced the 30-pin connector was in service for almost a decade and they said Lightning was designed for the next decade. So now it’s been a decade and they changed again. I guess we’ll see another new connector sometime around 2033, if USB can keep itself together long enough. It’s fragmentation is a bit of a joke.

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            If they kept the 30-pin for another year or two they could have been one of the first with USB-C and it would have been good for two decades or more and we wouldn’t be having this discussion

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                If only they had the foresight to predict the needs of their customers a year or two in the future.

                Or maybe they just went with Lightning because they could take a cut of every product using their proprietary connector.

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                  They did have the foresight, it’s why they started working on Lightning and has it ready for production release in 2012. From what I could find, the initial press release around USB-C was in 2013, with initial submission in 2012.

                  I’m not going to spend days reaching this, but it seems possible that USB-C was a response to Lightning based on that timeline, so since where playing the “if” and “maybe” game, which I’m pretty much done with now. Neither of us have inside information and this is all hypothetical nonsense.

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                    Buddy, standard connectors are in the works way earlier than you think. Manufacturers know about the next standard ahead of time and often give feedback. It’s all on Apple wanting to sell you a proprietary connector so you can only buy from them, or you can’t switch phones to android and still use your accessories.

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                    Apple literally contributed to the design of USB-C, it’s not as if they had no idea it existed or it was some sort of reactionary design in response to Lightning

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        “Hence the removal of the headphone jack.”

        What does that have to do with USB vs Lightning? Besides, Lightning to Headphone Jack adapters as well as lightning airpods use a DAC inside the cable.

        Boy, some of you are really drinking the Apple koolaid.

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      Lol, a cable is barely e waste. The power Adapter is where the e waste is, and those usb A blocks can easily still be used, even if you only have usb-C cables lying around. For very little money, you can buy an Adapter from usb-A to C and you can still use them. I don’t get the eWaste argument on copper cables…