• CoderKat@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I don’t think it’s quite an equivalence. When carrying firearms is illegal (as it effectively is in my country of Canada), you know whenever you see someone with a gun that you should run and call the police. You know they’re up to no good. In many US states, if you see someone with a gun… you kinda just have to deal with it. Maybe they’ll shoot you. Maybe they just need to overcompensate for something. You can’t really run from it because it can be so common.

    A decent amount of gun crime is also spur of the moment acts. They won’t go home, get their gun, and come back. The gun violence only happens because the perpetrator happened to have a gun when they were angry. Banning carrying doesn’t guarantee people won’t be armed in public, but it sure will heavily reduce it.

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      1 year ago

      Criminals don’t open carry. If you see a gun holstered on someone, they are explicitly showing you they are not a threat to you unless you become a threat to them. If they wanted to harm you, why would they show their hand before making a move.

      Lethal crimes of passion are far more rare than you’re making them out. Carrying a pocket knife is legal in Canada no? Do you feel you’re in constant danger of being stab by any random angry stranger? Cars are common in Canada, do you flinch at every intersection because you aren’t sure if someone had a bad day and wants to run someone over randomly? No of course not, because the overwhelming majority of people don’t want to hurt anyone

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        1 year ago

        If you don’t want to hurt anyone, why carry a weapon designed for that exact purpose? There’s literally no other use for a gun.

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        1 year ago

        Did you see that video of the lady open carrying in Houston who started shooting at the car that cut her off? Hilarious. Sorry, you were saying?

        • sudo22@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Did you see the article of the Saskatchewan mass stabbing that had something like 28 casualties? Anecdotes are not indicative of trends.

          In a country of 300M you will have outliers. But there are hundreds if not thousands of carriers not hurting a fly for ever article like this. Texas alone has 1.7M licensed carriers. So that ratio is actually probably in the hundreds of thousands to 1.

          • lazynooblet@lazysoci.al
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            1 year ago

            US has a gun problem. It isn’t really news. Unfortunately guns are ingrained into US culture and people will defend their right for guns against all common sense.

            • Jeremy [Iowa]@midwest.social
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              1 year ago

              Try comparing countries by homicide categorically.

              As it is, you’re showing you don’t care at all about homicide - only that the specific implement is a firearm.

              • lazynooblet@lazysoci.al
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                11 months ago

                So US is what, in the top 20? If you filter for developed countries, US is firmly #1. There is certainly room for improvement. Having easy access to devices designed to kill people is just madness to me.

                • Jeremy [Iowa]@midwest.social
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                  11 months ago

                  Why don’t you check out the data and directly refer to that early than making more bad guesses?

                  The original intent of a thing is entirely irrelevant to what a thing is used for. The sheer number of things in use in day-to-day life in ways far beyond original intent is mind-boggling. And then there’s the flip-side, the logical extension of such an absurd focus precludes assigning actual blame for use of a thing in the way it was designed.

                  I’m not sure how you define easy, but requiring a background check is more than sufficient barrier for me. Then again, I’m not pants-shittingly terrified of inanimate objects.