Supposed aliens landed in Mexico’s Congress but there were no saucer-shaped UFOs hovering over the historic building or bright green invaders like those seen in Hollywood films.

The specter of little green men visited Mexico City as lawmakers heard testimony Tuesday from individuals suggesting the possibility that extraterrestrials might exist. The researchers hailed from Mexico, the United States, Japan and Brazil.

The session, unprecedented in the Mexican Congress, took place two months after a similar one before the U.S. Congress in which a former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer claimed his country has probably been aware of “non-human” activity since the 1930s.

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    It’s so pathetic that all these UFO stories are being taken seriously by world governments. What’s next? Will they turn down the lights in the capital and tell ghost stories?

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      See my comment above.. It’s not pathetic - these issues deserve to be looked at seriously. It certainly seems our governments take UAP seriously.

      I’d encourage you to educate yourself and delve into the topic to gain a little more insight rather than just broadly dismissing it and handwaving it away.

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        So we have debunkable poor quality video and untrustworthy eyewitness testimony. Extraordinary claims DO require extraordinary evidence, and this doesn’t mean that every poor quality cellphone video needs to be “taken seriously”.

        How about if some actual astronomers and biologists could weigh in? I wonder if people could elaborate on this “70% DNA similarity”, because as-is it is a suspiciously well crafted bite-sized talking point that is easy to grasp on the surface, perfect for conspiracy nutters to latch onto and parrot without getting into the actual science.

        I’d encourage you to educate yourself on basic logic and the scientific method, instead of gullibly accepting these claims without sufficient evidence.

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          I’m not discussing this guy and his alien body. It’s clear he’s not credible. So yeah of course, the 70% DNA thing is bs. I haven’t been discussing this guy in this thread.

          I think you’re asking the wrong questions because you’re presupposing that UAP are extraterrestrial in origin (we may not require the expertise of astronomers).

          These are not poor quality video - these are video taken by military cameras and radar systems which the Pentagon itself has released and discussed. Hundreds of trained pilots, including elite fighter pilots, reporting sightings over decades and decades - before the existence of advanced surveillance and drone technology. Obama stating in a television interview that things are flying in our skies and we don’t know what they are.

          What we need is more transparency from the Pentagon and our governments in terms of what they have collected. We need access to the radar data of fighter planes (which as of right now is classified - no scientists have access). We need to know if UAP have ever been recovered.

          Don’t you ever wonder what was shot down over Alaska and the Yukon this year? Canada’s defence minister clearly stated in her press conference that it was NOT a balloon like the one from the Atlantic coast that China confessed to - it was “an object.” Why are they concerned indigenous hunters may find it if it is innocuous?

          These UAP either have large national security implications or they could be a completely new area of scientific study. These bare-bones facts warrant further exploration. And really if we never dreamed of exploring further we wouldn’t have many modern discoveries like the discovery microbes exist. That scientist was mocked by people too. We have to be willing to question our existing paradigms or we will never advance.

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              Why wouldn’t the military just say that then?

              “This was military technology tests and we will not elaborate further”

              But they have not said that in these instances. Specifically, the orb video and tic tac videos are unknown. Why would the Pentagon itself release videos of something they know about if they didn’t want to comment on military secrets being tested?

              So either the largest military in the world is shitting the bed and utterly failing to protect its own airspace and pilots from foreign military technology - and we should to figure out what it is; or the UAPs are something else, but the conclusion is the same:

              We need to figure out what it is!

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                Figure out what it is? Sure, absolutely! But people are all jumping to the conclusions of aliens as soon as anything unknown is happening.

                And for all we know, the US military may be intentionally trying to mislead the public, or whatever else. The US government already spies on everyone, it wouldn’t be out of character for them.

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        If you think that’s a serious issue, just wait until you hear about the escaped lunatic with a hook for a hand!

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      Only legislators seem to be taking this seriously not governments. I think it ties in to the rise of misinformation and conspiracy theories. Its being used as an approach to gain political favour amoung the populist right.

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        The Oversight Committee inquiry was bipartisan and only the Democrat mentioned aliens at all in his opening statement. Christie refused to even deign to speak about UFOs at the GOP debate. The Mexican congress is controlled by Morena. I don’t think this is being driven by the right at all.

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          Yes and no, Morena is closer to the right than to the left, they just claim to lean left to please their cult… They are also anti-vaxx and anti-science.

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      The linked article didn’t show a picture of the “proof”…

      Aliens

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      And to make themselves harder and harder to find as human technology advanced. You know the exact opposite way everything is real behaves. Everything true eventually gets easier and easier to prove. Everything false shows the every decreasing effect, where more and more resources are required to find anything at all. If you want a real challenge try to find evidence for ESP, if you want easy mode go ahead and verify any scientific discovery that broke the minds of people a hundred years ago.

      Used to be people saw aliens just by sight. Now we are reduced to finding them only in isolated incidents with complex military sensor packages that no one understands.

      Got to give those aliens credit. They have somehow made themselves follow the exact path all pseudoscience follows. Ingenious. Almost as ingenious as only abducting drunk hillbillies who live alone.

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        Funny you mention that, as I read that the guy making these claim also claims to have spoken to the Virgin (as well as to living aliens).

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      At least they’re focused on aliens when they could be focused on fucking people over like usual.

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    Let me try to explain this as someone that lives in Mexico, Jaime Maussan is like a cheap version of Fox Mulder or that “Aliens” meme guy from history channel. Bigfoot, loch Ness, martians, etc you name it.

    Nothing new for us but he must be thrilled that someone from outside Mexico pays attention to him.

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      And he already tried this couple years back with a mummy with 3 fingers and DNA showed it was a human child. I wouldn’t hold my breath for these to be anything different.

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      Alguien recuerda cuando salió en Otro Royo hace como 20 años con un disque brazalete tele transportador o intergaláctico o una mamada así?

      Translation for those who ain’t Mexican or can’t speak spanish: does anyone remember when he appeared on that popular TV show like 20 years ago claiming he had a teleporting bracelet or an intergalactic travel device or some bullshit like that?

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      todavía me acuerdo del vídeo de los niños jugando fútbol y que un alien supuestamente saca su brazo desde un poste de luz y fue lo único de lo que se habló por cómo 3 días en las noticias

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      I saw this article many years ago, the author argued that conspiracy theories show a timedelay in passing because of languages. Some conspiracy pops up in say France and it takes three years to meet the person who: speaks French and Spanish, believes it, is a hyperspreader, and is willing to take the effort into translation. Now the conspiracy meme is moving around in Spainish where it will remain until about three years later when it encounters the Spainish speaking person equivalent who moves it into English.

      I wish I had saved the article because the author wasn’t just speculating. He had timed out by internet posts the jumps from English to Hindi. The effect is a weird type of future shock where what was hot in one culture and forgotten about becomes reintroduced back a few years later.

      I ran a small electrical engineer homework helping board once and at one point we got overwhelmed by Spainish-English speakers screaming about Tesla transverse wave stuff.

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    This is a distraction. Something nefarious is going on unrelated to this nonsense.

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      It ties in with Qanon narratives too. Most of those conspiracy theorists believe “aliens” run the show, Trump/Biden is a clone and other wacky shit. It’s funny how grifters like this guy try to keep the narrative going for the delusional. It reinforces their beliefs, kind of like Sound of Freedom validates Qanon beliefs about human trafficking.

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        If half of these people took the time they spend and reinvested into the actual issues of the world like financial abuse, police system reform, climate study, biology, chemistry, we’d all be in a substantially better place.

        Don’t forget that y’all.

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          They think they’re Jewish aliens. If you ever research how stupid this is though you’ll go crazy.

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    For once I’m glad this is an example of pure stupid that isn’t coming from the USA.

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      Didn’t you see the CT images? They indeed have internal organs, so this seems like an elaborate fabrication. The guy is a professional hoaxer

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    Cartel and mafia team up to try to distract dumb Americans while they fuck with our elections puppet dumb politicians to become president.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Mexican journalist José Jaime Maussan presented two boxes with supposed mummies found in Peru, which he and others consider “non-human beings that are not part of our terrestrial evolution.”

    In 2017, Maussan made similar claims in Peru, and a report by the country’s prosecutor’s office found that the bodies were actually “recently manufactured dolls, which have been covered with a mixture of paper and synthetic glue to simulate the presence of skin.”

    On Wednesday, Julieta Fierro, researcher at the Institute of Astronomy at the National Autonomous University of Mexico, was among those to express skepticism, saying that many details about the figures “made no sense.”

    Congressman Sergio Gutiérrez Luna of the ruling Morena party, made it clear that Congress has not taken a position on the theses put forward during the more than three-hour session.

    Grusch’s highly anticipated testimony before a House Oversight subcommittee was the U.S. Congress’ latest foray into the world of UAPs — or “unidentified aerial phenomena,” which is the official term the U.S. government uses instead of UFOs.

    Democrats and Republicans in recent years have pushed for more research as a national security matter due to concerns that sightings observed by pilots may be tied to U.S. adversaries.


    The original article contains 678 words, the summary contains 202 words. Saved 70%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Let me try to explain this as someone that lives in Mexico, Jaime Maussan is like a cheap version Fox Mulder or that “Aliens” meme guy from history channel. Bigfoot, loch Ness, martians, etc you name it.

    Nothing new for us but he must be thrilled that someone from outside Mexico pays attention to him.