Sanders signed Senate Bill 10, which exempts records that “reflect the planning or provision of security services” provided to the governor and other cabinet members.
The bill is retroactive to June 1, 2022, which is before Sanders was elected.
Sanders signed Senate Bill 10, which exempts records that “reflect the planning or provision of security services” provided to the governor and other cabinet members.
The bill is retroactive to June 1, 2022, which is before Sanders was elected.
Have you lived in areas with both extremes?
The recent GOP under Trump is a total mess, so I’ll absolutely give you that. But you have to recognize that this is largely a new thing with the GOP, and the GOP doesn’t actually really represent the average conservative these days. I’m in a very conservative area, and most of my neighbors (who are conservative) don’t like Trump or the modern GOP and wish we could go back to the old GOP that was more moderate (e.g. people like Romney and McCain). But the media has riled up the extreme base and they’re pushing the party to be more extreme. This nonsense started under Obama imo, but really gained traction with Trump.
So I’m not saying both sides are the same. The GOP under Trump is decidedly terrible. But most states don’t follow national politics, so we can largely look at them separately from what goes on in Washington DC. I can find examples of gerrymandering on both sides of the aisle, so single party control is the issue there, and it allows far more nonsense to get swept under the rug than if control of the legislature was actually competitive.
Yes, and I live in one of the reddest counties in FL. These assholes love it.
One party wants to govern & one party wants to rule.
One party is making FptP voting illegal
One party is banning books.
One party is supporting child murder via inaction.
One party is trying to make kids go hungry while they are forced to be at school.
One party supports forced birth.
One party separated & caged children seeking asylum.
Get the fuck out of here with your “both sides” bullshit.
Which party is banning FPTP? And do you consider that a good thing or a bad thing? The rest seem to be digs at the GOP, but I’m not sure what that first point is referring to.
Fortunately, most of that is limited to a handful of red states, and also largely misrepresented on the news (esp. the articles linked on lemmy). Some is fair criticism though.
Also, your rhetoric here is just off the charts, so I don’t think you’re interested in a good faith discussion. If I’m wrong about that, please let me know and we can discuss the issues. But if you just want to rant, feel free to let it all out.
Sorry, the #GOP is banning Ranked Choice Voting. I had FptP stuck in my head for some reason.
And that’s absolutely fine if you don’t want to discuss anything, I’m more interested in the other people seeing thru your well-spoken bullshit.
This comment seems a lot more calm than the last, so I’ll give it a shot. But if you lean into rhetoric, I’m out.
I haven’t seen much evidence for this.
The Florida law that I think you’re referring to merely requires schools to formalize the process for what books they put on shelves. Books were removed until that process was finished, and AFAIK there’s no restriction on what citizens can purchase or what libraries can carry, the only restriction is that books in schools need to be age appropriate (and I’m sure you and I both disagree with conservatives on what that means) and relevant.
What I have seen is a lot of FUD from both sides about it, and it’s alarming to me that people don’t seem to see past the BS.
I think these are related, but again, it’s hard to see through the rhetoric.
You can’t murder through inaction, nor starve someone through inaction unless they’re actually incarcerated. I’m not really sure what the first is referring to, so I’ll focus on the second.
What you seem to be getting at here is the concept of positive rights. I personally reject positive rights in general, but I do think school lunches should be provided to all, but that’s because we legally require attendance for enough hours that a meal break is needed. I think employers should also provide meals if they require shifts longer than 4 hours, or schedule shifts back to back with less than four hours in between. I think employees and students should be free to refuse the provided meals and receive monetary compensation instead.
However, I reject the notion of positive rights in general, and I think there’s an interesting discussion to be had here.
This comes down to when you believe people get rights. The conservative position is that fetuses have human rights, and liberals seem to ignore fetal rights and focus on the rights of the mother.
My personal view is more nuanced:
I believe that balances the rights of the woman and the fetus. It doesn’t make either side happy, but I do believe it is better than the status quo.
Both sides have a bad track record on immigration. The solution would be resolved if we just made legal immigration easier.
But I do agree, I think Trump’s actions here were terrible, and every GOP candidate’s position this year has been terrible.
I recall reading someone’s proposal, but I forget who (I think it was someone from the GOP), but here it is:
On paper that sounds fair, though I’d need to see the details first.
Then you’re purposefully ignorant of what is going on in the country, especially the south, and not worth another moment of my time.
Bro could see nazis marching down the street and say he doesn’t see any evidence for rising antisemitism.
Lol I stopped reading after you said you haven’t seen much evidence for book banning. That’s next level head in the sand, spend literally 10 seconds in Google.
My point was that a lot of the media on both sides present a stronger view of what’s going on than reality. Conservatives was to appear tough on culture war nonsense, and liberals want to dunk on conservatives for being anti-freedom.
A lot of what actually happens is much more mundane than either side wants you to believe.
And that’s why I want to have a discussion about actual cases, to point out how mundane the changes usually are.
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Have my upvote. This post is getting hammered for the supreme sin of introducing nuance to a thread where everyone just wants to be righteously indignant. Most or us have parents who qualify as conservative, but not as evil. It’s like that.
Yeah, and I think it’s unfortunate. I feel I’ve been constructive and thorough, and my goal was simply to provide a different point of view to hopefully convince others to consider other perspectives and have a good discussion about it.
If there’s something I did that isn’t appropriate, I’d love to know about it.
It’s not you. I don’t want to say, “both sides”, because one side is clearly worse than the other, but these people are becoming what they despise. If you look at the worst kinda quasi-religious hive-mind discourse they used to have on /r/TheDonald, and shift it left, it would look like this.
I’m kinda disappointed.
Exactly.
But my point here is that the GOP being “worse” (depending on policy, of course) doesn’t make the Democratic Party “good,” it just makes them “better” (again, depending on the policy).
And that’s why I’m not registered with either major party, I vote differently based on the election. If I think we need to shift left or I have a really good option for a Dem, I’ll vote Democrat. If I think we need a shift right and I have a really good option for a Rep, I’ll vote Republican. Recently, I’ve been voting more Dem than Rep because I want to send a message that the current signaling just isn’t acceptable. But I’ll go back as soon as the MAGA nonsense goes away and we start getting good GOP candidates again.