There was previously discussion about Russell Brand denying allegations that were to be shown in a TV documentary, and now things are developing.

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    There is zero chance the agent didn’t know what Brand was up to, this is nothing but an exercise in ass covering…

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        They knew 3 years ago and suggested suing her:

        I wonder if that’s why this guy turned into a right wing grifter around the same time? Elon Musk did the exact same shit with that flight attendant story.

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          Mah this is who they always were. If anything, they were a sort of left-wing grifter before; they said and did shit that would anyone from American libs and further left kinda say “ok thank god not all the rich privileged people are insane” but now that they’ve been caught out for doing terrible shit out of the spotlight, they go running back to their “people with a conscience don’t want to bankroll my lavish lifestyle anymore! Can’t they just not vote with their wallets? I DESERVE that revenue! Cancel culture has gone TOO FAR now that affects my bottom line!”

          Absolutely no self-awareness as to how their own hubris has done it to themselves; or absolutely no scruples about doubling down and doing anything they can to keep the cash flowing.

          Remember, the worst think that can happen to a capital owner is they can become working class again. This is why they always kick and squirm.

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          Matt Taibbi is on a related journey. He stopped turning up to his own podcast a couple of years ago, and you can now catch him on random NewsMax segments.

          After seeing Naomi Wolf make the full heel turn to Steve Bannon acolyte, in the aftermath of her book and reputation being utterly destroyed in a single BBC interview, it seems like it’s not necessarily Me-too driving the flipping phenomenon.

          The MAGA right provides the last bastion for people with huge egos and well-paying careers in the public eye who refuse to go away.

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            Checked in on Taibbi after you mentioned this. There’s something weird in that dudes past where he went off to Leningrad at the end of his college years and then was just kinda over there for a decade +. My guess there is some flavor of komprimat having to do with his past heroin usage and probably sex tourism. He’s really towed the line for the pro Russia narrative since he started being a “both sides” guy, and went out of his way to say the Ukraine invasion would never happen. Interesting that more recently he got a home visit from the IRS after pushing the whole Twitter files thing with Musk and then cut ties with Musk almost immediately.

            I wonder if there’s a place where all these shit bags hang out together? A Club Shitbag, if you will.

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              He didn’t tow Musk’s line on the Twitter files, hence the fallout. He also spoke truth to power to Congress, which directly preceded the IRS house call.

              That said, everything else you said, sounds pretty spot on, or at least, reasonable assumptions, based on his work as of late.

              He’s pretty unbearable at this point. Which is unfortunate, as he’s done some great work in the past.

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            I was pretty sad about hearing about Naomi Wolfe, so I had to Google it and realized I was thinking of Naomi Klein.

            Matt Taibbi was a bit of a disappointment.

            The grift is lucrative. I guess I should be surprised the number of people you can squeeze money out of it before they get wise but it just doesn’t seem to run out.

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          Tbf, both have plenty of other reasons to lean right (wealthy white cis hetero abled men, any or all of the above), my guess would be that eventually enough legit productions/companies will refuse to work with people with a certain reputation, so they end up grifting by default.
          For people like them it’s all about having power and influence over others, they don’t care who, as long as their egos and pockets are fed…

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        Yeah, this was mentioned in the program I saw last night, I hadn’t realised it was still the same agent he had now, but that’s one of the reasons I had no doubt they knew…

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    This is the first I’m hearing about it, but doesn’t surprise me at all. If I made a list of famous people who seem like sex offenders Russel would very close to the top.

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    This guy always annoyed me, if he’s “censored” because of his bad behavior, I doubt many sane people will miss him. I remember seeing him on Maher (yeah, yeah, I know) not too long ago and he was just insufferable - even more so than usual. If he went down the “just asking questions” rabbit hole, that’s little surprise.

    And - unfortunately, I know a lot of people like this IRL - people that started off maybe a bit wacky, but at least on the surface, lefties, only to end up voting for donnie, and going full maga, with the gear and everything. And believe me - NO ONE wants to talk to them about anything past basic weather comments; the minute they start up with the ItWasAPlandemicChineseGlobalWarmingHoaxHunterBidensLaptop stuff, people are crawling over each other to get to the exits.

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    elon musk, alex jones and andrew tate are vouching for him. So he is probably guilty. If piers morgan vouches for him he is definitely guilty.

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    Apparently, Brand has been running from this shit for a long time, and jumped on the Fascist conspiracy grift train because no reputable movie or TV studio will hire him.

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    Well, on another site i saw a gif/video of Brand defending himself. To sum up, he said he has been very open about his past promiscuity many times in the past, all encounters were consensual, has witnesses contradicting the accusations, it’s a very directed agenda by specific media towards discrediting him and to stay tuned for how it turns out.

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      Oh he denied the accusations? Well that changes everything! Yes, it must be the mean ol’ mainstream medias fault then! Please.

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        Why not though? Media have been proven to create false stories before, so it’s not like they wouldn’t.

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        How do you know? Was he already on trial and failed to provide such witnesses?

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    How to destroy anyone’s life if you hate them:

    1. Accuse them of sexual assault from 2000 years ago, and rely on dumb people’s emotions and corruption.
    2. Profit!

    Clown world.

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      1. There hasn’t been any need to fabricate sexual assault allegations. Brand has had a long history of unwanted sexual advances and in the ages before #MeToo he could get away with it. Many women have come forward with their experiences about Brand and now the police is investigating this.
      2. Brand has been trying to profit for the last few years by grifting MAGA/QAnon folks.
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        The history is filled with fabricated sexual assaults. Kavanaugh, Justin Bieber, Justin Roiland, Andy Signore, and the list goes on. They all get completely destroyed before the evidence shows in the dumb court of “public opinion”, and then they get absolved of the charges because guess what… women lie, like everyone else. Humans lie. So, we have “innocent until proven guilty” and “due process”. That, or nothing. Shut your mouth and don’t make shit up. I hope this happens to you and you get destroyed and lose everything until the evidence shows you’re innocent and then no one gives a shit. Maybe then you’ll learn, you evil little piece of shit.

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              No, not ignorant. I’m just not a hateful monster who has a problem with women.

              Go die in a fucking hole you waste of breath.

              No one loves you or cares about you, no one will miss you, no one will remember you. You have nothing to hold on to, so why stay, just end it already before you live out your fantasies of being a mass shooter.

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        Russel Brand is fighting the establishment and hurting the big pockets, see the video below, and there’s absolutely zero proof he did anything whatsoever. It’s just anonymous with zero evidence, zero investigations, and just anonymous nonsense. Once this goes to court, then we talk about legitimacy. Innocent until proven guilty.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7LgO2FIoa4

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          Okay let’s rewind a bit, I asked you to provide an example of someone who was making money off this.

          Saying “the establishment” and “big pockets” really isn’t cutting it, can you or can you not name one party who’s directly profiting off this? Can you actually prove the link between a victims testimony and someone being reimbursed?

          I need names and dollar figures, not this sensationalist rambling.

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      If all it took was an accusation he would have been removed from any and all positions of power a long long time ago, and at least a few of the women he raped would have been spared.

      Instead, and even with many accusations (and not only proof but essentially his own admission), assholes like you will still jump to the rapists defence and pretend as if the whole entire system isn’t rigged in their favour.

      You are an active part of the problem.

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        I’m not on anybody’s side. If he’s guilty, there has to be proof. If the legal courts deem him guilty, then he should be punished to the full extent of the law. It shouldn’t be up to a kangaroo court, with a limited view of facts and primarily allegations, to make a judgement.

        Instead, and even with many accusations (and not only proof but essentially his own admission), assholes like you will still jump to the rapists defence and pretend as if the whole entire system isn’t rigged in their favour.

        Claiming to be promiscuous doesn’t make one a rapist. By that logic anybody going through their slutty years is a rapist. And if screenshots are proof to you, I don’t know under which rock you’ve been living, but you might have noticed that tech is able to fake voices and even video now.

        People like you are the actual problem - jumping to conclusions. “They said he’s guilty, so I say he’s guilty”. Save your grandeur and moralistic posturing.

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        Wasn’t there a football player that was accused of his rape at a party and everyone thought he was guilty, until the proof of his innocence came out. These threads might not look good in the future.

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          There not being enough evidence to prove rape doesn’t mean rape didn’t happen.

          Never mind that in Brand’s case there are texts of him basically admitting to it, and everyone around him knew, never mind everything he’s openly said on air that people like you brush off as “jokes”.

          You are the one who won’t look good in the future, but of course you don’t care, you just want to stand in solidarity with a rapist.

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            There not being enough evidence to prove rape doesn’t mean rape didn’t happen.

            Sounding like Bush there.

            The absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.

            What happened to “innocent until proven guilty” ?

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            Then if there’s plenty of evidence, then he will be convicted in a court of law. When that happens, I will call him guilty, but not until then.

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          Doubtful. When the evidence piles on like it is here, it’s usually a case of “where there is smoke, there is fire”.

          And there is a more and more smoke showing up every day. More women are coming forward now.

          Even of some of it is bullshit, I think enough will stick here.

          False accusations are of course a thing, but they are extremely rare.