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      Until the filibuster is gone or there are 60 dem senators, a vote on universal healthcare will just be performative. You’re not going to get any Republicans voting for that.

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        And then? Let it be performative. Make it the top issue every single day. Make sure nothing gets done until it gets done. Tie to budget, tie it to cabinet appointments, tie it feel good bills that do nothing. A single issue that shuts the government down until resolved. Eventually it will be. The DNC keeps playing nice and keeps failing.

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          Republicans: Democrats want to shut down the government??

          No. Wait. Stop.

          See, your problem is in thinking Republicans want a functioning government.

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            Seriously, if the GOP could have excuses to call for budget cuts and ending programs, and they didn’t even have to be the ones to come up with ways to stop the government from functioning in the first place? A dream come true for them

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          Almost as wild as the turkies actually voting for Christmas.

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          I think most republican voters simply care more about “other people can’t get a free thing that I had to pay for” or “I don’t want universal healthcare because I’m healthy and I don’t need it”. Which are both incredibly selfish mindsets. The GOP knows about these mindsets and does everything they can to encourage them.

          I think they now are so far gone that they find it easier to convince voters by spreading propaganda than it is to win people with good policies. I think part of it is that on the policy front, there’s stiff competition. But on the identity politics front, it’s not even a competition. The GOP is massively better at propaganda and identity politics. They know they’re better at it, which is why they’ve leaned so heavily into it while also having so little else to offer. Fixing problems often gets in the way of profit, so they don’t have an incentive to actually fix many problems (at least not for normal people).

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        Well then perhaps the Democrats ought to engage in progressive theatrics as fascist theatrics seem to be effective.

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    Although senators will benefit from the change by being permitted to sport casual clothes in the Senate chamber, their staffs are still required to wear business clothes under the old dress code. People other than senators who walk on to the Senate floor will also need to wear business attire, which for men means a jacket and a tie.

    One rule for thee but not for me.

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      That would run about as well as the nancy pelosi kente cloth. The way you own republicans is by damaging their ability to gatekeep, not by just doing the thing they do but different.

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        Seriously. I joke that I specifically became a sysadmin because a T-shirt (and occasional polo), jeans, and sneakers or boots is already formal for me.

        … it’s only partially actually a joke.

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    I’m ok with this- who the fuck cares if you have a tie.

    I was all shirt and tie when I started my job, and especially after Covid, things have relaxed to just about anything. Sure, I still put on a nice work polo for a client meeting or something, but fuck the suit and tie. If anything, fancy dress code made me way less productive because I was god damned uncomfortable all day. I’m a software engineer and cloud architect- wearing a dress shirt and tie is rediculous.

    As for our lawmakers, one less thing to distract them from actually reading bills and having productive discussion is a win.

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      I have a friend who used to work for some big time government IT contractor, he was a tech guy, software engineer or something along those lines. One time they wanted him to go to some meeting, and not that he normally dresses like a slob or anything, but for the meeting he put on like a polo and khakis figuring he should look somewhat professional. They told him to go put a hoodie on because they thought whoever they were meeting with wouldn’t take him seriously as a programmer if he looked too presentable.

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        I’m a programmer, and I like dressing up: I don’t like ties, but I like wearing slacks and a button up shirt - so long as it’s a nice fit, it doesn’t restrict your movement, and there’s a lot of things to subtly stim with - you can roll your sleeves up or rebutton the cuff, you can make your steps clack or silent depending on how you walk, etc. Plus people just treat you differently off the bat, it’s a confidence boost

        After a few years of constantly being told by everyone “you don’t have to dress up, people come here in jeans and a t-shirt” I finally gave in and took the hint

        People just expect good programmers to look aggressively casual these days

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      I was all shit and tie

      I think I may have spotted your problem.

      Edit

      PS: I wear shorts or jeans and a tee every day. But oddly enough I also find suits really comfortable, as long as the shirt collar isn’t too tight. And I even kind of like dressing up. Once in a while. Maybe it’s because the laundry routine for a suit is much more of a PITA than tees.

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      I work from home and only have a couple meetings where cameras aren’t necessary. Usually explaining how reports are calculated and such.

      I wear pj’s 90% of the time unless I need to leave my house.

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        You’re telling me you don’t just wear the PJs out? Join me my friend

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      because I was god damned uncomfortable all day. I’m a software engineer and cloud architect- wearing a dress shirt and tie is ridiculous.

      I had a role for a grand total of six weeks like that. It ended with one of those you can’t fire me because I quit kinda deals.

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    This is part of a slow trend towards powerful people dressing casually to differentiate themselves from the less powerful people who work for them. Historically, trends like this have been set by the elite and are then emulated by people trying to convince others that they are elite. This is the beginning of the end of formal wear in the United States. Soon a suit will mean “i work at a hotel”.

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        Honestly doubt anyone will vote differently because of attire. If anything, the conservative commentators will say that the Dems are being lazy and undignified if they aren’t wearing suits. We’ll probably see most senators continuing to dress formally anyways because it’s a symbol of power.

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        Zelenskyy I guess has no other choice as his country is in war and he is the supreme commander of his forces

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            I know but wearing olive drab is good for his soldier’s morale… “I’m on this with you” kind of thing

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            He frequently visits them however. OD is extremely practical in his case and definitely the exception to this stuff

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      I don’t think so. I think this time is different. At some point the leadership was no longer the trendsetters. I am not going to buy a certain shirt because I saw Biden or Bezos wearing it. I might if someone I think is actually cool did. Maybe we just aren’t some weird pyramid society anymore.

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    I’d love to see the moral scolds on the right pipe up about how scandalous this all is, right after Lauren “handy” Qbert was caught on video…

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    I hope this goes to the House too so I can finally see Boebert in her wal mart pajama pants

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    Eh, I’m fine with it being loosened up, but is it really “whatever they want”? If it is then I’d think annoying attention-grabbing messaging would become an issue. (Or, not an issue, in the grand scheme of things, but another in a long list of distractions)

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      attention-grabbing messaging

      This is what the GOP would call a senator wearing a rainbow shirt, for instance. Should that be a reason to restrict self-expression?

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    This will be helpful in so many ways, humility and work ethic will be encouraged by not inflating ego with suits. If a suit is your style, great and fine, have at! If you are wearing it to feel important and you are working with others who are dressed differently, you are reminded that the job is at hand and not ego.