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    11 months ago

    I believe a F-35 would win. It has, in stark contrast to the AirTag, Raytheon AIM-120C AMRAAM missiles. It also isn’t as overpriced as Apple.

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      11 months ago

      Tiles are the same thing but like half the price. I use the hell out of them

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        I can see the point for Airtags which work with most modern iPhones, or a hypothetical Google equivalent which could work with all Google Services-enabled Android devices. Is there enough Tile users around for it to make sense?

        edit: also it seems Tiles now cost exactly the same as Airtags

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        Where I live there is almost no tile users.

        Tile is the same concept as Airtag with the exception that you probably won’t recover what you have lost because it’s incredibly unlikely it will be pinged by a tile user.

        I say that owning multiple tiles. I’m just saying these locators things are only as useful as their network. And the tile Network is mostly very weak.

        What sucks is that Apple and Samsung are both restricting the use of their network. Nothing is interoperable as usual. And so the consumer is the one literally losing.

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          Really? I’ve had good luck with the network, and I live in a small city. Lost a set of keys at a truck stop in rural NM and they pinged correctly

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          I think Apple opened its network to tiles and similar, but you need to buy a specific one made for the Apple network (which costs more, probably because of apple tax)

          Iirc Google will be doing the same with its new network

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            11 months ago

            That’s interesting!

            I’ll look into it.

            The big players here are Apple and Samsung. If both open their network it would be absolutely amazing…

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          11 months ago

          What’s Tile’s privacy policy as opposed to Apple? Genuinely curious as I’m looking to get a privacy respecting tracker.

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    11 months ago

    Don’t black boxes have beacons of some kind?

    I’d also imagine an airtag is useless in this scenario as if it crashed and no one knows about it, it’s likely not near someone’s Bluetooth enabled phone either.

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      11 months ago

      Uhhh…

      F35 is a stealth aircraft. Beacons are literally against the point of the damn thing.

      People are asking ‘How could you lose your invisible car? Why didn’t you just put a tracking device on it?’

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        I’d imagine it’s something that can be turned on and off, just like it’s stealth technology.

        Edit: to further expand on this, finding the downed plane is a lot more important than it sounds. This could technically be classified as spillage considering there is classified tech in an F35. Foreign agents would benefit if they found it first. I’m pretty sure there are recon teams trained to recover downed aircraft in military zones. Considering they still are equipped with radio for communication, I’d imagine even just an encrypted message at time of impact could be useful.

        Losing a plane over friendly zones shouldn’t have to worry about having a beacon that’s always on. I fail to understand why it would be silly to believe one could be useful in a jet fighter, stealth or not. I’d imagine it’s likely even present but just defunct for whatever reason in this scenario and details can’t be revealed about that, as again, it still contains classified technology.

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        F35s have transponders, just like every other aircraft that flies in the US. They are necessary to avoid mid-air collisions. When flying a stealth mission in enemy airspace, they can turn the transponders off.

        Unfortunately, the transponder on this particular F35 is not working.

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            Sure, but the point is they have transponders. And pilots generally use them (because it’s safer) unless they have a good reason not to.

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        They still have them but because of course they do. They can be turned off easily enough. I’m not sure what sorts of modes they have when ejecting. I could prolly find an AF tech and ask.

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      i feel like a beacon on a military jet would be counterproductive if the jet were to fall on enemy land

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        Do they not put beacons on their seats either? How did they find the pilot? I’d imagine if it were an issue, it could be deactivated in wartime or over enemy lines.

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        Even on home turf it’s not great if the enemy/terrorists can find out where your equipment is. Pearl Harbor was on US soil.

        Obviously it would be nice in this specific scenario, but how often would that really be useful in comparison to the potential security issues that comes along with it?