California cannot ban gun owners from having detachable magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, a federal judge ruled Friday.

The decision from U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez won’t take effect immediately. California Attorney General Rob Bonta, a Democrat, has already filed a notice to appeal the ruling. The ban is likely to remain in effect while the case is still pending.

This is the second time Benitez has struck down California’s law banning certain types of magazines. The first time he struck it down — way back in 2017 — an appeals court ended up reversing his decision.

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      I haven’t been in a position to need a gun for about 15 years, since I moved out of the poor areas I grew up in. I don’t own any guns and have no intention of buying one.

      But I support the rights of gun owners. The 2nd amendment is very clear. Just because I don’t want one, doesn’t mean I can demand other people give theirs up. Or shame them for wanting the government to respect their rights.

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      Weird. I’m semi-closeted and get to listen to various people (including coworkers) talk about how they want to murder “fags”. I’ve had people threaten me with violence because they thought I was coming on to them. I’m sitting here watching politicians argue for criminalizing the existence of people like me while armed gangs of uniformed young men march around calling for the death of “degenerates”.

      You’re right: I’m probably just paranoid and there’s nothing to worry about.

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      Dude its never been about need idk why y’all focus on that insert skull emoji since my app doesn’t support it

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        These idiots need to look at themselves in the mirror and realise that they have an obsession with a tool designed on a single purpose, killing and most of which designed for killing humans.

        Have you considered it may be you with the obsession, given your fixation on firearms to the complete neglect of the underlying issues of violence?

        No criminals won’t follow the law but everyone has the potential to break the law or steal guns from someone who does abide by the law. It’s tough but they are killing machines and if you can’t see that you are a f*cking idiot

        Not to interrupt what’s clearly a rational take in rant form, but logically, one should address the killing rather than quibbling about the implement used.

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          A gun is more dangerous than a knife, killing people is illegal but it doesn’t stop the school shootings in the land of the free. Easy access to guns makes this possible, it’s much harder to mass kill people with a knife

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            Easy access to guns makes this possible, it’s much harder to mass kill people with a knife

            Ah, I see - there are zero differences between the United States and the Aussieland beyond the set of legislative differences regarding firearms and the prevalence of ownership of those firearms.

            It’s weird that you double-down on only caring these things happen by firearms, apparently encouraging such by knife.

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        Australia banned guns

        people who need guns still have them

        LOL, in the same sentence even. Pick one.

        And are you the arbiter of my needs? Lay eyes on any apex predators this weekend? I did. Camp on a lonely riverbank far from any sort of civil authority? I did. Bet conservatives have plenty to say about what you do or don’t need. Want them to choose for you?

        I’m a liberal and have an AR-15 “assault rifle”. If it comes to defending my life, or the life of another, you wish for me to have second best? Are you proposing I bring a “knife” (lesser weapon) to a gunfight? You are aware that conservatives, who have been quite vocal about killing political adversaries, are well armed? Who do you wish to disarm? Citizens that obey the law? Because those are the only folks you’re going to restrict.

        Plenty of other reasons to own an AR-15, but we may be headed towards a time when an American Gestapo is real. Will you be able to fight back when they come knocking? If it’s death or concentration camp, I choose fight.

        And speaking of my AR, know why I got it? Fellow libs sold it to me! They shit themselves screaming BAN! after Uvalde, figured I’d better get mine in case they got their way. Hell, I had ~30 guns before that, and no interest in an AR. Good job?

        While we’re at it, if libs would stop screaming for bans of ridiculous things like magazines, maybe they would win every election in a landslide. I suppose your morals are more important than winning. And that’s a conservative take if I ever heard one.

        This man is talking about you:

        https://imgur.com/a/pR7CuLA

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          It was your choice to camp there and potentially interrupt nature by shooting apex predators. Don’t bring up the safety argument if you’re going to do that

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            I’ve also had a black bear cruise in my dog door, presumably, according to the regional Fish & Wildlife guy, to eat my pet mini pig. Guess I have no business living on the edge of town?

            Also, had to shoot a wild boar that was tearing into my property and terrifying my pet. How, pray tell, would you have dealt with that situation? And keep in mind, the civil authorities all told me, “Not our problem, we don’t handle wild pigs, all on you.”

            So where exactly am I perfectly safe? In the white-bread suburbia where you live with your parents?

            And if nothing else, gun laws always have been wildly racist in their origins and enforcement. Bet you’re A-OK with all that! (Or more probably, don’t know or care.)

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              Buddy, you said you are a liberal.

              Thank god you’re one of the actually sane ones, but you should know better than anyone that you are not going to argue a liberal down. Liberals tend to be the most set in their political beliefs.

              You will not get anywhere with this argument, take my advice and leave. Take my advice, this happens to me all the time.

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              In the white-bread suburbia where you live with your parents?

              You must be real proud of yourself with that one. I live in a rural area on a large property with wild animals, it is possible to hire people to deal with the threat posed by wild animals, forgoing the risk of having firearms in your house

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        Oh look, another confidently incorrect Australian putting their piece into a gun debate.

        Australia banned guns,

        Australia definitely has not banned civilian firearm ownership.

        it was the right thing to do

        Very debatable. Letting the government have the monopoly on lethal tools is giving a lot of trust to the people a fairly significant portion of the population consider corrupt.

        people who need guns still have them.

        Considering you think civilians can’t have firearms I’d be surprised you even know what people can own in your own country

        But not bloody assault rifles.

        Americans can’t even own (new) assault rifles. AR15’s are not assault rifles, and civilians do own them in Australia too, ask me how I know.

        These idiots need to look at themselves in the mirror and realise that they have an obsession with a tool designed on a single purpose, killing and most of which designed for killing humans.

        They definitely do not have a single purpose, anyone who blindly says this has no idea how huge shooting sports are. In most western countries it’s literally the biggest sport participation wise by a huge margin.

        No criminals won’t follow the law but everyone has the potential to break the law or steal guns from someone who does abide by the law.

        Don’t need to do that these days, submachine guns are super easy to manufacture at home, rifles and pistols are just around the corner. You’d probably be surprised how many illegal firearms are already out there, the ADF has lost a lot of stuff over the years too.

        It’s tough but they are killing machines and if you can’t see that you are a f*cking idiot

        You can say that about so many more things than firearms, the end use is what always matters though. I’d be able to argue the opposite when shooting sports are the safest sport to participate in, in Australia anyway.

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      You are so cool. There are a lot of people who have absolutely no business ever owning a gun and the less in hands of uneducated, untrained and ignorant individuals the better.