Indian foreign ministry claims ‘security threats’ after Trudeau’s explosive allegation of state-sponsored killing mean it cannot provide visa services safely

India says it is indefinitely suspending visa services in all categories for all Canadian nationals due to “security threats” to its consulates, amid a furious diplomatic row between the two countries.

Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said they have suspended “all categories” of visas, including e-visas and for Canadian citizens applying from third countries.

And India has also moved to downsize the Canadian diplomatic presence in New Delhi, saying that Canada has more embassy workers in its capital than visa versa and that it wants to restore “parity”.

It comes after Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau said there were “credible allegations” of the Indian state’s involvement in the murder of Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada, triggering a furious tit-for-tat row.

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    So pathetic from India - seeking to punish Canada for the fact that the Indian government murdered a Canadian in Canada, and Canada had the temerity to call them out for it.

    What an absurd victim complex Modi has.

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    Way to make everybody believe your government did actually murder somebody in Canada, Modi.

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    The Modi govt has surpassed its own stupidity . They’ve officially labeled Canada an international terrorist sanctuary — “a safe haven for terrorists, for extremists, and for organized crime,” in the words of the Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson. I’ve just posted on this zine

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      The amount of Indians living in Canada is crazy, really. A few years ago during Covid I arrived in Vancouver airport and literally thought that I took a wrong plane somewhere and arrived in India instead.

      There were only Indian personnel everywhere until I arrived at the border security. Everyone else is Indian. Then in Vancouver itself, I’d guess that 30% of the people are Indian. It’s crazy enourmous really

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        If you’re in Toronto and take a bus to to brampton, it’s like crossing over into a different country.

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    Sometime i think Modi studied from the same school where Xi Jinping and putin pass out.

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      Modi doesn’t have any college degree even though he claims so but refuses to share college certificate so far.

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    Wow who would have thought, India is winning the North Korea speed run challenge.

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      Russia already won first place. But man, I was cheering for India for a while but this last year they are having me lose a substantial amount of goodwill towards them even after trying to find excuses. I hope they check themselves before its too late.

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    Its funny coz I think Modi thinks people are dying to visit India.🤣🤣 its like Taliban thinking Afghanistan is the most developed country in the world.🤣🤣🤣

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      India is that one country I can’t imagine visiting as a tourist. I know there’s plenty of beauty in the country and people, but I couldn’t imagine enjoying myself as I step over human beings and try to ignore all the crippling poverty and social inequality.

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        Indian here. You should know the holiness of a place here is proportional to the amounth of filth around it /s. And dont visit Ganges plains. South is fine and so is Himalaya and north east. Avoid the cow belt.

        Modi likes to pose macho especially when his followers like it. A bit of like Elon Musk if you ask me. He never said a thing about Chinese trangession in North East where we lost land. But he found soft targets in Canadians.

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        Enjoy a sunset paddleboat ride down the Ganges, just nudge the floating corpses out the way.

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          The gentrification tried to push them into a corner, but the same people gentrifying them out, also want them left alone, so now we’re turning into Vancouver, where you walk through a wealthy neighborhood and rich down towners are just stepping over homeless people on the way to their micro breweries, while patting themselves on the back for their progressiveness

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        Don’t know if you have ever visited the US, but I was not expecting what we found. Worst was the constant begging. People tapping on the windows of the car when we stopped at intersections, chasing us around shopping centres and along streets, and begging on train stations, expecting “tips” for returning a bag they had stolen out of my hand (sometimes, jetlag didn’t help me be fast enough) or “tips” for giving directions I didn’t want, need, or ask for. They constantly expected money to be handed to them.

        It was shocking how the roads were broken, the shops had no electronic payment, the coins were worth practically nothing, the paper money was literally paper scrip and not holographic or durable, and the buildings were rotting apart. People were dying on the footpaths. Crowds of dirty people. Rubbish everywhere. But worst was the begging.

        Oddly, Canada isn’t like that. If you ever visited the US, India is similar, but not unexpected the way the US is.

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      As they should, India is an amazing and very unique country

      Why on Earth am I being downvoted. You guys need to leave your basement once in a while

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        I didn’t downvote, but nothing is “very unique” for the same reason that nobody is “very pregnant”.

        Either it is unique or it is not.

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          I disagree.

          “Very” unique indicates being unique in more ways and/or in more severe ways.

          Similarly, being “very pregnant” would be at about eight months or perhaps carrying more than one child. In the present of someone that is a month pregnant, it may hardly impact their day to day living, and you can’t tell.

          Yes, technically the words are Boolean, but the reality makes sense.

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            “Very” unique indicates being unique in more ways and/or in more severe ways.

            The term you’re looking for is “very unusual”.

            Similarly, being “very pregnant”

            LOL, ok now say to a pregnant woman, “I don’t think you’re very pregnant”. Please report back to us with her response.

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              Perhaps you haven’t heard or read those before, but they’re very much valid (😉). The downvotes are overwhelming and can’t possibly -imho- reflect disagreement over my wording. I’m pretty sure it has to do with India, but I don’t know why. Is there a particular anti-India sentiment I didn’t know about ?

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                Well, there is definitely an anti-assassination sentiment. Probably why Saudi Arabia doesn’t get much love either.

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        There are enough incredible countries where you don’t have to worry about perverts and being raped as a woman.

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        Students. Higher education in India is incredibly bad. Thousands of Indians pay huge sums to get into Canadian unis.

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          Higher education in India is incredibly bad.

          Imma be level with you homie, the only Indians who leave to Canada for higher education are the ones who did not make it into the top universities in India.

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          India has some of the highest ranked universities in the world. It’s a country famous for putting out doctors. Yes, there are issues with higher ed, but it’s not as simple as “incredibly bad”. And don’t forget that a large number of foreign students is also a product of just having a large population.

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            India has some of the highest ranked universities in the world.

            Whose capacity is close to nothing for the population. Indian universities fall in two categories: really good ones or absolute shit ones (source: I’m an Indian). There is no middle category. To get into the really good ones, you have to either have an exceptionally good academic performance or have to be extremely rich. Universities outside India fill in the demand of this middle category. Sprinkle in some permanent emigration aspirations and you get a country with a large emigrating student population.

            It’s a country famous for putting out doctors.

            While it is true that this is the perception of India especially in the west, it is categorically untrue. According to the World Health Organization (2023), India ranks very low in the amount of doctors per 10,000 people relative to developed countries (by more than 300%). If you counter this by saying “this is because all Indian doctors emigrate to the said developed countries”, then that would be incorrect again, as around 10% of Indian physicians emigrate and practice in the west.

            And don’t forget that a large number of foreign students is also a product of just having a large population.

            I believe you are pinning “a large population” as the causal factor behind a high student emigrant population. Had this really been a causal factor, then we would’ve seen European and American students in Indian Universities proportional to their population (which when combined, makes up around half of India’s population). The fact that we do not observe this phenomenon is evidence enough that “a large population” is not the causal factor behind this. Rather, it is the access to good education which plays a much much larger role.

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    Modi going full-bore with Kremlin tactics and methods emulating his pal, Putin.

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      India seems to be one of their biggest sources of immigrants. Looks like they hoover up tech workers.

      Likely works in Canada’s favour to not do the same.

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        Green cards (permanent resident card) in the US are processed in queues. The queues are based on your country of birth. Last I checked Chinas queue time is around 5 years whereas Indias is around 10 years.

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    Is India such a popular destination for Canadians ? I mean who is hurt more in this “he`s done it, so i pay back” game?

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      Something like 7% of Canada’s population is South Asian. I don’t know what percentage of that has Canadian citizenship and is specifically from India, but I’d guess there are a fair number of people who won’t be able to visit family now. It’s a shitty way to retaliate, but not unsurprising coming from Modi.

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        Well those who come from India they don’t need visa and second generation of original immigrants might not have such a tight relations on average as they have lived whole life in Canada. Then how many Canadians work in India in comparison to how many Indians work in Canada. I’m just guessing here but somehow I think Indians are hurting their own people. If it’s about tourism , then again who needs tourism more if we count only tourists from these two countries visiting each other.

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          Interesting. I do passport applications (granted, in the US, so not completely the same), but I see a fair amount of 2nd gen Indians who are going to India. Lots of people going for weddings or young adults visiting grandparents or taking their own babies to meet the extended family. Regardless, it’s super petty.

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            they hurt their own people in sense not Canadians in general. (Graparents won’t see their grandchildren etc)

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      I doubt there are many Canadians who go there for leisure, but for work? I bet there’s quite a few of them.

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        Do you think more Canadians work in India or vice versa? I don’t know but somehow I get feeling Indians like working for higher $$$ in the west then Canadians in the India.

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    I’ve followed the headlines on this but I just don’t get it.

    India is pissed they were called out? They didn’t consider a cranky Canadian outcome before hand? Or is Canada flinging wild accusations that are unjustified with the information at hand?

    These diplomats need to chillax and go back to being diplomatic before legitimate Canadian expats in India and legitimate Indian expats in Canada start to feel the brunt of this.

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      There is strong evidence that hasn’t been released but leaked sources claim one of the two killers(captured) have ties to Indian Intelligence the other being an Indian diplomat(uncaptured). This means it’s a direct attack on a Canadian on Canadian soil by a foreign agent.

      India is pissed because Canada harbored an alleged terrorist. Even though the terrorist in question was freed by the Indian government and was not wanted by Interpol.

      The Indian government is currently genociding its Sikh population and calls anyone outspoken about these actions as terrorist.

      This action of closing immigration from Canada is to get an equal reaction. India want to stop all of their skilled and intelligent people from leaving to Canada.

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      Canada seems to have pretty credible evidence for it. India seems to be doubling down in indignation rather than apologize or admit they did anything wrong.

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    Wow damn if we don’t somehow rescue the USA in our elections in 2024 these dictator countries have their eyes on taking over. Kinda obvious with the whole BRICS thing.

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    The documentary “India’s Daughter” enlightened me to the actual India.