I’d exchange Reddit and X. The rate at which X is going downhill right now just cannot be beaten by anything.
Twitter(/X - such a bullshit crappy name) is the Kmart of web 2.0 companies. Just a husk of what it was and in a massive free fall decline.
It’s basically a matter of a branded domain name and Mastodon will take over.
Governments and entities like the New York MTA are going to want something they control, rather than something that falls to the whims of some billionaire.
The tech for Mastodon is there. You just needs orgs that care less about reach and who trust people to come to them (like the New York MTA).
Agreed. I mean I never expected Elon to be smart but good god is that dude an idiot. Everyone reading this could 100% do a better job in his shoes.
If I had bought Twitter back then, I would have just done absolutely nothing and raked in the cash.
Came here to say this. X is doing worse than Reddit.
Yeah the thing that people are upset about reddit for with rate limited apps is something twitter did years ago. Then theres the everything else involved on twitter and its not even close.
I feel like it’s unfair to include TikTok as it had a clear headstart by being a dumpster fire since the very start.
Musical.ly certainly was a thing.
Hey, the rebrand was successful!
Nobody associates it with paedos now and their “take existing videos and put our horrid moving shitty contrasted watermark on it” starting strat worked a dream
It has been an dumpster fire before it was even made.
And Vine!
I mean, TikTok was already bad to begin with but what did they do to deserve a spot next to Twitter? Did I miss something? Surely they can’t do worse than trying to make their paid only, right?
Needed three graphics.
Does this reflect how the platform is actually doing or do we just like the circlejerk of wishing they would fail? Because everything I’ve seen says Reddit has been completely unaffected by the changes made and they’re still getting more user signups, engagements and interaction/posts than ever.
Tik Tok also seems to be growing strong.
Twitter is a genuine laughing stalk and is pulling major shit…but everyone still seems to be using it regularly.
We can take a look at the comment count on major subreddits over time. Using the top 5 most commented listed on Subreddit Stats, and then using Social Rise to see comments per day (go down to “Graph of” and click “comments”).
- https://social-rise.com/subreddit-analysis/askreddit
- https://social-rise.com/subreddit-analysis/AmItheAsshole
- https://social-rise.com/subreddit-analysis/Starfield
- https://social-rise.com/subreddit-analysis/AITAH
- https://social-rise.com/subreddit-analysis/NoStupidQuestions
All except Starfield show comments cratering at the beginning of July, and they’re not coming back. Obviously, Starfield is a special case given the release of the game.
Now, perhaps the site is still OK among the more niche subreddits. That’d take a lot longer to analyze. But it’s clear the big traffic drivers are not pulling people in anymore.
While I overall agree this seems to be the case at first glance, I do notice that august there’s a huge drop that correlates with school starting up again. Probably need to compare to previous summers.
Edit: looks like it’s still pretty huge even accounting for that
The graphs there go back to 2018. There aren’t drops anywhere close to what we’re seeing.
Good to know, i was having trouble on mobile with it. Thanks!
I’m glad I left that site. They just view us all as little addicts and have lost any semblance of caring about what made reddit work in the first place.
If popularity was all that mattered, McDonalds would have Michelin stars.
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I believe that s shifting the burden of proof.
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the burden of proof lays in the eye of the beholder or whatever the quote is. i’m not a lawyer.
The burden of proof lies in the eyes of the Christian god! And as a fellow Muslim, I can say nothing about it, but He might speak through me and say that Reddit became a place without much new content.
I don’t save sources in case of future need for references. I haven’t written a thesis on the matter. It came up in a few articles in my tech news RSS feeds. You’re welcome to not believe me and I would readily consider contrary information anyone else offers it.
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Only a good 0.1% of reddit actually “creates content” with the rest having only engagement via comments. A good 99% of those also don’t do anything but lurk.
The people that make the content are also the ones more likely to switch to alternatives.
It’s an engagement loop so while the amount of signups and accounts is unchanged, there is simply less content to keep people around and to monetize.
Reddit is driven by search traffic and the results got a lot worse since a lot of good posters quit. They lost the content but not the users yet, I think it’s just going to take a long time before they truly see the damage in their traffic statistics!
The google-Reddit search got really screwed up when the private subs numbered 7-8000. I’m curious if there have been any lingering effects.
Yeah Reddit just became more like Facebook which is disappointing, but not a dumpster fire.
Twitter is a radioactive dumpster fire that’s spawning mutant fire rats. There’s really no comparison.
I just have a hard time believing this when the_donald started on reddit. The site has been an incubator for right wing actors for years. Even the infamous Stormfront recognized the opportunities for recruitment there years ago.
No, but we are on lemmy so we obviously don’t care how well billion dollar companies are doing profit wise.
I care insofar as seeing how badly they can screw up
Put Unity somewhere up there for their recent debacle
Unity is hors-concours, they’ve already won this race. None of these social networks have managed to fuck up so badly as to fully destroy their reputations like Unity did.
I don’t know. Twitter running rampant as a nazi platform and safe harbor under Elon’s tenure/stewardship has been something else. That platform was always a mess/ bad but not to the degree Elon has cranked it up to. It’s full blown mania/ hysteria on that platform.
Edit: I miss the days of Twitter when I could’ve used it as my own personal news ticker/ use it to follow sports and my favorite sports reporters. It’s shocking but there are actual uses and use cases for Twitter. It used to not be social media trash.
An I the only one who thinks this is exactly what he wanted? Hated seeing the western social media trying to block disinformation, so he buys it and let’s the right wing extremists have free rein
I don’t think that’s what he wanted initially.
Chinese authority doesn’t like twitter. Tesla was incentivised by the Chinese gouvernement to come to china and grow the EV market there. Tesla had a lot of very nice and attractive loans and business opportunities. China alone is now 32% of sales for Tesla. Muskrat buying twitter and driving it to the ground serve the Chinese interest, and I would not be surprised to hear there was an agreement to something along the lines of “you buy this, you do shit with it, we close our eyes on our loans” from the Chinese.
For the nazis, it’s all about the Tesla factory in Texas. Texas is quite red, when COVID happened and California was closing down Tesla factory in Fremont, Shit-face was opening his new factory in Texas. Democrats were all in for the Covid measures. Going strong with anti-vaxxers and republicans gained him favors in Texas, to be able to use his slaves, sorry employees despite the pandemic.
Down the line, I think this psychopath is only doing what all billionaire does: using his money to make more, more, more, completely ignoring the consequences. The only thing that drives him is making more money. Not with Twitter, but with using twitter to get what he wants…
It’s remarkable the similarities between William Randolph Hearst and Elon. Hollywood can finally make its citizen Kane remake/ sequel.
what happened to unity
They tried to apply a per install fee and make it retroactive for all games using the Unity Runtime. Meaning games made with Unity even a few years ago who didn’t agree to this would be charged each time someone uninstalls and reinstalls the game.
This is the second time they have tried to make retroactive changes, by the way, and they even deleted the part of the TOS that prevented retroactive changes.
It’s really just one of many things they have done in the last few years
To list out a lot of the many things: They’ve done forced RTO which is pretty internally disliked, fired a ton of people lately, a bit ago the CEO publicly said anyone who doesn’t prioritize monetization are “the biggest fucking idiots”, they bought an ad company known for making malware, and they keep getting in bed with military contracts including Lockheed. Oh and they cancelled their example project game Gigaya which I’m still bitter over
Just a minor correction, they actually merged with Iron Source, they didn’t just buy them. That means there was a good bit of board carry over, which means Iron Source management is now making decisions at Unity.
They won this is a fight for the 2nd seed
Crazy how TikTok don’t even seem so bad anymore thanks to the other two completely fucking imploding.
I think Twitter will be the largest fall.
Like, they went from publicly traded household name, used by news sites everywhere… to… well…
Elons shenanigans has to be worse than spez surely
Spez just copies what daddy Musk does, so give it some time
I know lemmy hates Reddit but X is easily taking the cake here. Do you think Elon is respecting ANY of the policies around old user data? If you were EVER on Twitter, Musk is all up in your business.
I hesitate to speak for everyone… Okay, now I will. As ex-Redditors, we absolutely hate Reddit because we knew it in the past, and we also know it now. So authoritatively, fuck Reddit and fuck Spez.
(I know not everyone here came from/cares about Reddit)
I don’t hate Reddit. I love what Reddit can be.
I just can’t support support its current trajectory. If they backpedaled settle of the recent decisions I’d return tomorrow, because after spending 3 months here I’ve found zero communities with enough activity to justify leaving the “everything” feed.
Same for me.
I hate reddit, but I always hated reddit, it was always a cesspool. back in the day before the recent admin drama it was really horribly bigoted, and when lots of people jumpped ship recently, the community got real racist real fast
I feel like unity is the most likely to die. Their users are way more likely to switch to an alternative than people using reddit
Unity alternatives are also way more known than reddit or twitter alternatives
Also, anyone who wanted to leave Twitter, Reddit, or TikTok likely already have
But the alternatives aren’t as developed. Godot still isn’t great for 3D projects and Unreal is Epic and also has royalty fees like Unity tried to add.
Unreal only has a 5% fee on games that made over 1 million USD
Unity wanted to add a 0.20 USD tax for every download after you made 200K USD 200K users(which changes depending on how many downloads your game has and which plan you are using)
Units pricing method could have been easily exploited, game developers would have to pay for people pirating their games, if a free to play game reached those requirments, it could cost them more than the game made, giveaways would cost game developers money and all unity games would have to collect data
No, I’m well aware that Unity’s model is fucked up.
I’m just saying that I don’t consider Unreal a valid alternative, especially as it’s owned by Epic who have shown themselves to be far worse than anything Unity has done already, and there are no other 3D engines as good as Unity.
Not saying necessarily to keep using it, I’m just saying it’s not as simple of a solution as just switching for a lot of devs.
Indies yes but the big dick billion dollar in MTX mobile market won’t shift at all.
That text layout is…well dumpster fire is strong, but it’s definitely a smelly smolder
It’s just a wastebasket woopsie!
Xitter is now enabling disinformation intentionally. Put ‘em at the top
Well, Tiktok demotes china critical accounts and promotes china friendly ones, people who tried it came to the conclusion that’s it’s roughly by the factor 10 so they aren’t even hiding it!
Yeah i also completely forgot Unity. This “Worst Dumpster Fire” ladder only had 3 spots.
The enshittification of TikTok: https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/
Very relevant to all of them
Great article!
wtf is a Kia race
It’s a race in which there are only losers.
So do they all burn or implode in the end like the majority of KIAs?
Maybe it is Killed In Action?
Has to be.
