• InfiniteLoop@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    I really just wanna see the judge eviscerate this “no victims” defense BS. We do NOT wait for someone to be hurt to enforce the law. Can you imagine how many speeding tickets would be pled out of if this was a legitimate defense?

    Even if you scope it down to the case at hand, we’d keep letting people commit financial fraud until the bank is finally harmed. And guess what happens when banks get fucked? The govt uses the common people’s tax dollars to bail them out.

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      9 months ago

      The ‘no victims’ defence is right out of the Sovereign Citizen playbook and is often used in a futile attempt to get out of driving related charges and violations. I’ve seen videos of such world salad bombardments when the cops pull them over; it usually ends in a smashed window and handcuffs.

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        9 months ago

        You can argue the same about blasphemy. Either there is a god and it is so far beyond us nothing we could ever do could hurt it or there isn’t one in which case what doesn’t exist can’t be hurt.

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      9 months ago

      Everyone who uses the banking system was a victim. The money that Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump defrauded the banks out of was paid for by other bank consumers.

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        9 months ago

        Not really. It’s a federal crime to lie on a bank document because they are federally chartered. Each document (or lie or something) can be punished with 2 years in jail.

        If you say “I have this much money” on a bank document and sign it, you can go to jail for 2 years. It’s not punished often, usually when a bank employee steals something.