Tesla cut the price of some Model 3 and Model Y versions in the U.S. after the company reported third-quarter deliveries that missed market expectations.
The starting price for the Model 3 is listed at $38,990 on Tesla’s website, down from $40,240 previously. The long range Model 3 fell from $47,240 to $45,990. And the Model 3 Performance fell to $50,990 from $53,240.
Tesla’s Model Y Performance sports utility vehicle now starts at $52,490, down from a previous price of $54,490.
Beginning at the end of last year, Tesla began cutting the prices of its cars across the world in a bid to stoke demand amid concerns over slowing consumer spending in markets like the U.S. and China and as competition in the electric vehicle space ramped up.
It’s falling because the cars are garbage. Slightly cutting the prices doesn’t make them any less garbage. You could get an EV from a reputable brand for much less.
Tesla isn’t the cheapest but “much less” is inaccurate, especially once the tax credit (at least in the US) comes into play and as you try to find like-for-like range and features.
I don’t know why Lemmy hates Tesla so much. Hate Elon, sure, he’s probably behind the crazy quotas leading to poor build quality and definitely behind overselling FSD, but if it wasn’t for Tesla we would still have no viable EVs. I hope competition makes a good one soon but right now Tesla is the best EV with the best charging network. Lots of people are driving them now.
They’re hellishly expensive cars. They harvest data, and if you opt out your car may become useless. They exaggerate the car statistics, like driving range. The build quality is frequently poor, with visible panel gaps (that cheap-arse Dacias don’t even have), rear bumpers that fall off due to rainfall, they are prone to rust, and the FSD despite clearly not being “fully self driving” or even road safe is available as an extra subscription, that people actively pay for and make use of making the roads less safe.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg as well. Like how replacing the battery costs as much as buying a new car. Or the fact that the already shitty battery life gets even worse when it gets cold, leading to people getting stuck on the motorway in the winter, forcing them to get a taxi and abandon their car.
Perhaps Tesla started off well back in the late 00s, but Musk’s been doing nothing but bullshit since the moment he got his grubby little hands on the thing. There are awful stories coming from the factories involving racism, frequent injuries (the factory in Germany is laughable, and it’s shocking it hasn’t been shut down), and really worrying things have been said even about the software its running on.
Then there’s all the weird-ass design decisions, like replacing the steering wheel with a yoke, without adding servo steering meaning it’s just a malshaped steering wheel. They’ve also paved the way for bullshit capacitive touch areas rather than buttons, and tacked actual important functions like turn signals on them.
If you accidentally caress the fart button and make the bloody thing do lmao memez hilariouz farting, no one gets injured. Miscommunicating your intention in traffic could lead to deaths.
It’s a bad company, and they’re bad cars.
This rant is unproductive, incorrect, and wildly exaggerated.
They’re hellishly expensive cars.
No. Welcome to the new price of cars.
They harvest data, and if you opt out your car may become useless.
Opted out. Car still usable.
They exaggerate the car statistics, like driving range.
Edmunds found they aren’t that far off, especially seeing that the range estimates are all over the place.
The build quality is frequently poor, with visible panel gaps (that cheap-arse Dacias don’t even have)
Sure, I’ll give this one to you. While it’s a no-fuss operation to get them to fix it, it shouldn’t come out the factory.
rear bumpers that fall off due to rainfall,
Isolated.
they are prone to rust,
When?
and the FSD despite clearly not being “fully self driving” or even road safe is available as an extra subscription,
What other ADAS software have you used?
that people actively pay for and make use of making the roads less safe.
If the vehicle gives 2-3 warning messages before engaging it and consistently reminds the driver to pay attention, there’s not much more the car can do here if a driver wants to screw off.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg as well. Like how replacing the battery costs as much as buying a new car.
Which EV has a cheap battery replacement? Teslas are down to about $12-15k, which in 2023, is cheaper than a new car.
Or the fact that the already shitty battery life gets even worse when it gets cold, leading to people getting stuck on the motorway in the winter, forcing them to get a taxi and abandon their car.
All EV batteries lose range in the winter. Most manufacturers have a feature to pre-warm the battery to reduce the effects of this. Nobody’s leaving their cars on the motorway either.
Perhaps Tesla started off well back in the late 00s, but Musk’s been doing nothing but bullshit since the moment he got his grubby little hands on the thing.
Tesla wasn’t shipping a car until his money became involved.
There are awful stories coming from the factories involving racism, frequent injuries (the factory in Germany is laughable, and it’s shocking it hasn’t been shut down),
I don’t know enough about German manufacturing to comment, but I’d be interested in learning more about factory accident rates of Tesla vs. other carmakers.
and really worrying things have been said even about the software its running on.
Like what?
Then there’s all the weird-ass design decisions,
So personal preferences.
like replacing the steering wheel with a yoke, without adding servo steering meaning it’s just a malshaped steering wheel.
And this was reverted to a wheel by default now on the S/X, which were the only two vehicles having this as an option.
They’ve also paved the way for bullshit capacitive touch areas rather than buttons,
… have you seen other vehicles? Mercedes and Volkswagen (though, now backing off) is going down this route
and tacked actual important functions like turn signals on them.
Personal preference.
If you accidentally caress the fart button and make the bloody thing do lmao memez hilariouz farting, no one gets injured. Miscommunicating your intention in traffic could lead to deaths.
Can you show where this dedicated fart button is?
Amazing job going point by point! We need this type of sanity check
It’s a decent enough company owned by a sack of shit, and the cars are pretty good.
Please list the cars available “for much less” with equivalent range. We’ll wait.
The marketing stated range or the actual range, cause reality is a bitch
That is an odd flex considering Tesla is currently being sued for lying about that very thing.
Yes, they were talking about Tesla’s deceptively marketed range.
Range, performance, and features. I hate Musk as much as the next person, but let’s not act like Teslas aren’t the standard for EVs price-to-performance wise.
Who in their right mind, after seeing Elon Musk destroy Twitter at the behest of the Saudis, all while supporting antidemocratic Fascists from every corner of the globe, buy one of his Fascistmobiles and fly his Fascist flag?
Or work at any of his companies. Would like to hear from lemmy users working for him.
A lot of folks work in those factories that have no idea about Elon, other than that he’s rich. So many folks don’t bother to stay informed.
I really doubt this for factories in the US. Whether you follow celebrity news or not, Musk’s name is all over the place for one reason or another. US workers absolutely know what’s going on.
As one of those workers, you’d be astonished at the misinformation I hear coming out of my coworkers mouths. Now mind you, I don’t work for Tesla, but I’m absolutely more informed than the vast majority of my coworkers.
More thinking all those vps, managers, hr, engineers, customer service, sales, marketing etc. they obviously are well informed and choose to stay.
Everything I’ve heard online is Musk runs his companies like cults.
teslas are pretty cool cars. lots of fun features that make them really feel unique.
Like a giant fucking iPad for a dashboard.
That’s not at all distracting.
It’s really not.
In 2021, I almost bought a Tesla, but needed a car quickly and they had a long wait. I’d still consider it but it has now become clear that Elon Musk sucks, so I’ll never buy one.
My next car will be an EV from literally any other company.
Yeah in thinking about a Bolt if my Aptera order doesn’t come through.
Fwiw my Bolt has been rock solid so far. I’m getting about 240 miles per charge (to 90%, not full). It’s a city driver though, I wouldn’t plan to take it on a road trip
I’d avoid VW too, honestly. They were had to build out Electrify America because they cheated with emissions. They clearly do not give a shit about it and their charging stations are continually rated the worst.
Yeah, used to own VWs. They are shit cars and that’s why I stopped buying them, but the emissions cheating was also a nail in the coffin for my consideration of them.
You can’t really get away from Tesla chargers though if you need to do a road trip. Happily, many other brands are adopting the standard so I think soon anyone can use them.
You can use adapters
I’d still consider it but […] I’ll never buy one.
🤔
What’s confusing? I would consider it if Elon Musk hadn’t shown himself to be a despicable person.
Too expensive to run proper power to my garage to go electric. My main panel is in the basement on the other side of my house.
I also had this problem. I was lucky enough to have an electric dryer plug near the garage, and got a “splitvolt” brand switching box, which is awesome.
I do have an electric dryer plug on the other side of one of the walls as well. Hmmm. I need to look into this
If you take a look at the socket, the ones with three prongs are not recommended but it is possible they were installed with a 4th wire in the cable but the socket is 3 prong. I replaced my 3 prong socket with 4 prong one (the 4th wire is ground, crazy stupid to not use it.) Cheap and 26 amps at 220-240 volts.
Obviously you don’t need one, but for those who may benefit: I’ve been using a weird 3 prong to 4 prong plug adapter for several years now without trouble. It has a ground wire that you plug into the ground slot of a nearby outlet, so it’s quite safe.
Yes, you can do that, but remember that if there is a critical problem that forces the complete current into the ground wire, rare. the ground wire from a smaller socket is also likely to be smaller gauge wire. You will likely end up with the same problem of not having a ground wire as the donor ground could just burn up. You can reduce the possibility of the donor socket ground wire from burning by not allowing anything else to use the socket/wireloop(if there is more than one socket using the same breaker switch).
This is not proper electrical code, but there is no reason to stop using these cords as the possibility of catastrophic failure from causing much harm. As usual, I would err on the side of safety and suggest getting a professional to work on it and using the proper socket for the plug.
Thanks for the info. That would be a crazy, albeit still possible, situation. I’m going to keep using my plug, mostly because I’m renting. Don’t tell my landlord.
