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“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant said. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

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    11 months ago

    They are “acting accordingly” by performing an ethnic cleansing. How disgustingly ironic.

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        Israel’s “peace talks” are nonsense.

        Israelis have stolen their land and homes, have performed ethnic cleansing, stripped them of their rights, and acted like they’re the victims the entire time.

        There’s no good solution here, but an Israeli solution is not any solution at all.

        “Israel offering peace talks” is like me offering you a couch after I steal your land and burned your house down. It isn’t workable.

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        There can be no effective peace talks between the neck and the sword.

        Palestinians have always been a people with a homeland but deprived of a state, their identity forged by oppression and resistance under a succession of empires. They were not called to give any input on the British decision to carve out their land for a Jewish state. They were driven out of their land by the millions, and those that remained were squeezed tighter and tigther, slowly pushed out of the usable land by illegal colonists which are protected by the state of Israel. Palestinian statehood was neglected for long enough that Israel was able to shatter or consume all Palestinian territory, making a Palestinian state inviable.

        The state of Israel is entirely the product of imperialism, first British and now American. There can be no peaceful two-state solution because one of these states should not exist! The only peace will be a one-state peace, and it can only be achieved through bloodshed. Either the Palestinian people will finally gain their sovereignty, or the Zionists will finish building their monoethnic, theocratic paradise over the crushed bones of Palestine.

        The idea that “some societies are just evil” is a very poor excuse to justify apartheid, but it’s certainly not a new one. What is more “evil”: to hate those that invaded your land and deprived you not only of self-determination, but of food, water and a future? Or to consider those of a different religion and cultural background as “human animals”, spit on them and their religious symbols, arrest their children and deprive them of their human rights, kick their elders to the curb, drive them out of their family farms and into crowded and guarded ghettos?

        Calling that heinous conclusion you came to rational is an offense to reason and to all moral and reasonable people.

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        The only way there will be peace is if Israel moves. Any other negotiations are pointless. There is no path to peace with Israel staying where it is.

        Ignorant statement of the day: the only “apartheid” states in the Middle East are Arab ones. I’ve been on projects where Muslims tried to separate Americans with PhDs and Masters degrees from their teams and put them in slums just because of the color of their skin or their ancestry

        Imagine siding with the oppressors and not the oppressed and trying to darvo literal genocide.

        You both sides this argument then side with the fascists. Wow.

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      But the thing is Hamas fucked themselves and the people of Palestine with their recent attack. No one on an international level will bat an eye at what Israel does with the Palestine in the near future. Hamas knew that there would have to be a massive response from Israel but the attack was allowed to take place and no one in Palestine cared enough to stop it. Anyone innocent needs to flee for a border because the laws of physics are just going to play out now.

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        “no one will bat an eye”

        Where were all the batting eyes when the shoe was on the other foot?

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            No one was coming to their rescue anyway. Everyone else was already turning a blind eye to Israel’s abuses.

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              11 months ago

              Unfortunately the perception of the people of Palestine as being victims of a more powerful state protected them from a lot of actions Israel could have taken but didn’t.

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                “people recognizing state sanctioned violence made it a lot harder to commit crimes against humanity, so be happy they’ve been allowed to live this long”

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                  They chose this fight. If Egypt doesn’t want them because Palestinians have caused coup attempts and general terroristic activities in their country. They can swim if they like.

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            11 months ago

            you haven’t been following this shitshow for long have you? Look up Israels illegal settlements, both sides in this are evil and don’t give a shit about civilian lives.

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                hm, there’s a name for illegally occupying territory of a foreign nation while claiming they can’t claim that territory. Ah right, colonialism. The very act of building settlements in someone else’s territory is an act of aggression, it’s in no way peaceful.