So this started coming up today. On every video. I can (so far) click the “x” and remove it to watch (still see 2 ads before the video, and one after 4 minutes - ruins music on YT), but did click the “Report issue” only for the dialogue box not to work.
I found a link to a that said 11% use adblock. Thats not a lot.Maaayyyybe there is a problem with the amount of ads youtube forces down our throats for even short videos. 🤷♂️
Their detection script is probably trying so hard that it hits false positives.
Ironically, with an up-to-date uBlock Origin, you wouldn’t see this popup.
Sooo…, you’ll literally need to use adblocker to use YouTube. Interesting.
It really is given that they’ve willingly entered a game of cat and mouse and chosen to assume the role of a blind, limbless mouse.
As others have said before me, I feel for the poor engineers who have to implement this stuff as any technical solution short of DRM is provably impractical and unworkable.
any technical solution short of DRM is provably impractical and unworkable.
Don’t give them ideas.
They already have plans to DRM the entire fucking web. That’s why I am currently cutting google out of my life step by step.
Yeah, YT is the last holdout for me. It’s literally the only Google service I willingly sign up for. I’ve tried Piped/Invidious, but they don’t match YTs quality.
No problem, quality will continue to degrade, until you will be happy to switch.
Yeah the lack of playlists is an issue
So, give me a heads up if you find a reliably working alternative for their FCM that enables common apps to … work, e.g. mobile payment (not crypto), alarm messaging for emergency forces, e.g. firefighters. I’d say one can easily step back from google if you rely on independent apps and services (done that for a couple of years). But without FCM some shit simply doesn’t work.
They’re way ahead of you, they already started implementing it in Chrome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Environment_IntegrityIt’s bullshit like this that made me give up all Chromium browsers earlier this year. I used to be a complete Google simp, but those days are well behind me. They’re motto these days might as well be “Do evil.”
I went from loving Google (had the HYC Dream, the first Android phone!)
Many years ago I cut em out. Now I have no google products and do not use their services.
I also had the HTC Dream (called the TMobile G1 in the US). Only google product I haven’t been able to ditch is gmail.
I’m not sure what you mean by “short of DRM”, because YouTube already does what it can to prevent unauthorised clients accessing it. (Have you seen how unreliable “YouTube downloaders” can be, especially for very long videos or in resolutions above HD?) But ultimately the flaw in any DRM-style solution is that the end result still needs to be able to be played back on client-controlled systems, and that is always going to provide an avenue for exploitation. It can’t be avoided.
I use an automated YouTube downloader as part of my media lab and have had a 100% success rate for downloads over several years, so, sincerely, I don’t know what you mean.
And yes, my argument wasn’t that DRM is flawless, just that it’s a feasible next step in Google trying to achieve their purpose.
as any technical solution short of DRM is provably impractical and unworkable.
Oh, that’s why WebDRM.
I feel for the poor engineers who have to implement this stuff
I don’t. They had every opportunity to do the ethical thing and refuse to implement it, but didn’t.
On a related note, the industry norms need to be changed such that software engineers should be licensed Professional Engineers, should be unionized, or both.
(I say this as a software engineer myself, by the way.)
I also work in industry as a software engineer, tech lead, and occasional eng manager and haven’t seen anyone do this over several decades.
I don’t think many people, software engineers included, are troubled by YouTube wanting to monetize their platform or defending their right to do so. It’s opting for such an easily bypassed method that makes this such a chore for the implementor.
It’s also bold to assume they might not have suggested, prototyped or specced other solutions to this problem but were still tasked with this one for whatever reason. Either way, I’d rather assume good intent and high locus than assume they are “trapped” in to implementing software that defies their own moral beliefs.
DRM isn’t effective on its own, it needs law with severe punishment to survive
Sooo…, you’ll literally need to use adblocker to use
YouTubethe internet. Interesting.
Are you sure? Or is it because you’re not in the test group?
I’m on nightly/up to date ublock and i see it.
Did you update your filters?
I had the pop-up today, updated my filters then reloaded the page, and the warning was gone.
Pretty sure, as I saw the popup multiple times, updated uBlock filters and didn’t see them again since.
There’s no test group, it’s available now. Instructions here
https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/173jmog/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_09_2023/
There’s no test group
They are almost certainly talking about a test group on YouTube, not uBlock Origin. Sites do that sometimes, it’s called A/B Testing. Where different users will get different versions of the site to test something or other before changes are rolled out for all users.
Ah, the second sentence made it sound like they were questioning the uBlock implementation, not YouTube’s.
And not just sites, but all forms of software can implement A/B and multivariate tests, including software like uBlock Origin. I’ve implemented A/B and multivariate tests before, and have even co-designed and developed an experimentation platform, so it’s a subject close to my heart!
According to OP it turned out to be an extension causing the problem
Their detection script is probably trying so hard that it hits false positives.
Nostalgic.
The cobra effect
I started getting this last night even with UO before I realized FF was waiting for me to restart for an update.
Oops.
I got this popup today on Firefox with ublock origin.
LOL thats nuts!
I’ve heard Firefox’s inbuilt tracking protection often trips whatever detection method they’re using, and like, I’m not turning that off for Youtube.
Quick someone post that 3rd party YouTube interface for Android. Preferably on F-Roids. I need it.
This is the Internet so let’s settle this quickly and efficiently.
The best 3rd party YouTube interface is called Kuhmbus.
NewPipe has been my go-to for years. Available on F-Droid with regular updates.
There’s a fork that has SponsorBlock integration, fyi. Get it on github and it requires manual updates but auto notifications. You can also use obtaimium to install it, and that will handle updates for you.
I thought NewPipe only worked with decentralized services? Does it work with YouTube proper?
yeah, it primarly works with centralized ones but it also supports PeerTube
I actually didn’t realize it supported anything other than YouTube. TIL
There’s a few options
Newpipe, uses it’s own extractor, also can act as a player for SoundCloud and Peertube, there’s also a fork with SponsorBlock: https://newpipe.net/
Libretube, uses the Piped api, generally seen as the one with the best UI: https://github.com/libre-tube/LibreTube
Clipious, uses the Invidious api: https://github.com/lamarios/clipious
Could also watch videos in a browser from an Invidious or Piped instance I guess
And while I’m at it I’ll also mention there’s a client option on desktop too, Freetube: https://freetubeapp.io/
Yeah same here!
It’s really great when you put on some calming music for sleep that’s 8 hours long and has an ad break every 5 minutes.
How dare you complain about their aggressive monetization practices, won’t you think of the record corporate profits.
🤤
I thought YouTube posters could choose if their video is monetized. Isn’t this kinda on the person who posted it?
That setting is now only available to accounts that meet certain criteria (subscribers, views, whatever), or so I’ve heard. Depending on the videos you frequent, they may or may not meet those criteria.
And yes, this means that if you’re a small channel Google can force you to show ads without giving you any of the revenue.
If true, that’s kinda fucked.
I guess so as I have found others with no ads.
Download the mp3 of the video. No more ads.
Good point.
You need a certain amount of watch time over the previous year. I have 2k subs and can’t even get half of the required watch time, my videos show ads I cannot turn off
YouTube will prioritize monetized vids
download some calming music or buy a fucking CD for god’s sake
Then I’d have to buy a fucking cd player and also listen to the same damn thing every evening.
LOL I remember when there was no better alternative to buying shitloads of CDs. In some ways I miss the relationship I had with music back then. My sister beat the shit out of me one time for sneaking in her room to copy a bunch of her CDs. Made a big song and dance about the ethics of music piracy!
In that scenario though, your best bet would be to buy more than one CD, rip them to a computer with a USB optical drive, and make yourself playlists that are 8 hours long. I certainly would never advocate downloading music with filesharing software like soulseek.
I too miss the days of CDs.
There was even a time when Music Zone (store in the UK) would let you return cds. Well it was free reign to buy them, copy them and then return the original.
I recall having a printer that could print the album art on them.
Or even recording from the radio on to tape or mini disc. And even Smash Hits for lyrics.
You’re right, relationships with music were different than they are now.
I can’t lie though some things are better now. Take Apple Classical for instance. I can listen to the music entire collection of classical music by opening an app. It’s amazing.
Lol that’s like too funny now. Hitting legitimate users with the nagware, so that the only ones having a good experience are the pirates :D Tale as old as the first VHS tape
Here’s something that I “don’t allow” Google:
Letting corporations use MY computer equipment and MY Internet connect to conduct their business. I’ll block whatever I want and if Google and YouTube don’t like it, they can take their advertising machine, roll it up real tight and cram it.
Google can suck it
Google, people telling you this, is devastating. You’re devastated.
To put it another way, a shitty business model on their part does not constitute an obligation on yours.
Ah, enshittification at its finest.
We have a family premium plan and I still got this message. Guess I’ll cancel YouTube Premium now…
I get most of the content I want via patreon anyway now.
So, you already pay for an ad-free experience and they still want you to turn off ad-block so they can track you more efficiently. That’s vile.
It is a false positive as Googlie tries to find a way to detect and block adblockers on browsers they don’t control. install ublock origin and it should solve the issue.
Nope. It happens with ublock origin too.
Then you need to remove your custom profile and update to the latest version.
Brief search last night quoted 2.9 billion total? revenue for ‘22, 2023 first quarter worldwide ad revenue , 6.93 million usd.
Unsure what you think that is relevant to. ???
Ublock Origin and SponsorBlock and Enhancer for YouTube will make the YouTube experience SO MUCH better!
Ublock blocks ads, SponsorBlock blocks sponsorship deals that the YouTuber includes (Clash of clans, Norton, etc), and Enhancer lets you play with the settings on a whole other level, including blocking things like end cards.
Those end cards suck, though it’s usually the creator’s fault. Put them where there is no content at the end, not when I’m still waiting for the punchline!
Youtube already blocks ublock, it doesn’t work for me anymore.
You just need to update you filter lists. Go into settings -> filter lists and click on “Purge all caches” and then on “Update now”
Seems to still be working for me. At least I haven’t encountered any notices yet.
They are targeting a portion of users, but once you’re chosen to be the test target, you’ll see.
Yeah, I just commented to another user about the same things. Seems they’re doing some A/B testing or something like it. No worries, I understand uBlock has an update available that addresses it already.
Alright thanks for the notice!
I’m ok with In-video sponsors though. You can always skip them (unlike YouTube ads) and the money goes straight to the content creator.
It does skip them, just automatically.
Plus you can skip intros, outros, and about a dozen of other things.
It’s great most of the time, but occasionally it will skip sections that are definitely not an ad and instead an important part of the video.
It has non-ad settings, like intro, outro, recap, etc.
Be sure to check your settings, as not just adverts are on by default.
If it’s not that, make sure to “thumbs down” the skip when it pops up as that helps the system as a whole.
I had no idea Sponsor Block was available as an FF addon. Any idea if it works on FF mobile?
FF mobile currently has a very selected list of available extensions, which does not include it yet.
But that’s about to change before the end of the year. FF mobile is finally opening up add on usability and distribution.
You can use it with ReVanced! https://revanced.app/download
I’m in Ohio. Any combination of words that has “Vance” in it and I want too throw up…
Any idea if it works on FF mobile?
Not through the official firefox mobile. Maybe you can get it to work with firefox nightly, but I haven’t tested myself.
But I can recommend Libretube or Newpipe X sponsorblock x return youtube dislike. If you haven’t installed Fdroid I can recommend that as well. It functions as an appstore (Like the PlayStore), and you can find/upgrade the apps through there. Otherwise you may find the apks manually on github
Though luck if you’re on iOS, bur I assume you’re on Android.
Yes, only the nightly version though.
You probably have antitracking enabled which can trigger this dumb prompt.
I use a Firefox extension to redirect any YouTube links to open in Ungoogled Chromium, which so far seems to be immune to Google’s anti-Adblock campaign.
edit: Extension is called Open In
Wow, people are so smart!
Any chance you could DM the the name of the extension (is you can’t mention it here?)
I can’t get this popup on Firefox and I have tried hard to get it. I also noticed that I never get video ads even without an adblocker if just reject all cookies at the cookies prompt (only works in EU I guess)
Either way you could try this guide which apparently fixes the issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/173jmog/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_09_2023/
I appreciate it, but I’m still going to stick with Ungoogled Chromium for YouTube. mainly because Firefox still doesn’t support HDR and RTX Super Resolution.
That’s fair.
Got that too (Firefox and ublock origin). So far i can just click the X and continue to watch without ads. Pops up about every third video.
This post has instructions to stop getting the pop up: https://lemmy.world/post/6671823
Thank you! The cause might actually be “Enhancer for Youtube” in my case. Didn’t know it had its own blocker.
Do you have Firefox’s tracker blocking enabled? That can block some advertising related code and as such will also get detected as an adblocker. I’ve had that be the issue for other websites that block ad blockers in the past before I stopped being willing to ever turn Ublock Origin off.
Just use the piped.video frontend.
That instance is slow, and anyways it’s bad to recommend one instance. Here: https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances People on Lemmy probably understand instances
I didn’t even know about the others, thanks :-)
