“there is growing anti-Semitism among enlist (American) troops who are openly stating they are against Israel and do not willing to put their lives on the line for them (the Israelis)”.
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Source for hacked email is official Iranian state media Tasnim.
Unusually based troop mentality. There’s probably an ulterior motive; probably heinous racism-- but at least the big colonizers aren’t interested in taking up arms for the little colonizers. Why not airdrop every politician who’s given money to AIPAC directly over the conflict?
Hard to tell how much is pro-Palestine, how much is actual anti-Semitism, and how much is simple self-preservation/people who actually thought they would be “defending their country” when they joined the National Guard. It’s also possible (assuming this is real, of course) that, like many higher-ups, this general does not actually have his finger on the pulse of the people under him. If he does, we don’t know if this is localized to his troops or present more broadly.
Hard to tell how much is pro-Palestine
Highly likely that being pro palestine is a non-factor in this whole thing
I tend to agree, but the military is younger & browner than the rest of the country, so I wouldn’t completely rule it out either.
Plus pro-Palestine sentiment is decently common among libs, and while the military skews right there are plenty of lib idealists who join.
I think we may all be surprised, way more of my coworkers were pro palestine than i thought (though perhaps they just felt squeamish arguing with me being part palestinian). I also spraypainted some pro palestinian graffiti on a building downtown and…nobody has covered it, which was surprising (when i did some BLM graffiti in 2016 that shit was blacked out within 12 hours). Anecdotal evidence but just my take
I know nothing but I get the impression that some of it is just a lack of investment in “protecting” some foreign country they have little connection to.
Given that most right-wing Americans are extremely pro-Israel, and the military recruits largely from the right, there’s a high chance that “anti-Semitism” in this context means “not wanting to die in the Middle East for some other country’s interests.”
“Anti-Semitism” in American political rhetoric tends to be just a code word for “not supporting the most militant wing of the Zionists.”
no parachute, 2,000m altitude, directly over this ugly building
(IOF headquarters)
The top even looks like a funnel. We could put a big meat grinder at the bottoms and just toss them in.
rrRRRight down the chute
Honestly most of the troops are there for the free college, they wouldn’t have been able to get otherwise.
So any resistance to fight on the side of apartheid is straight antisemitism? Not wanting to fight against a Semite people? Got it 🙄
In all fairness I don’t doubt that we have total Nazis in the military. But I also believe there’s intentional disregard for any other reason to not want to go Bring Democracy™️
This might seem to be a stupid question, but does it matter if they are “antisemites” or not? At this moment the most important thing that could happen in Satan’s army is that its soldiers actively reject invading Palestine.
If they’re self-declared anti-Semites it’s a problem. There’s also a lot of problematic, latent anti-Semitism that we should and must stamp out, too.
I think the bigger issue is saying that anyone who doesn’t want to fight Palestinians is automatically anti-Semitic. That’s even more of a stretch than saying that anyone who opposes Zionism is anti-Semitic.
Both claims mask real anti-Semites and let them hide in plain sight with what they think they can protect as a legitimate reason to be anti-Semitic. Those people are just as likely to be Islamophobic as they are anti-Semitic.
While we might be happy that US soldiers have found a war they don’t want to fight in, I don’t think we should brush off the fact that it stems from anti-Semitism (to the extent that it does) just because there’s a positive outcome in this instance. Because ignoring that anti-Semitism will come back to bite us round the corner; it’s the same kind that sees people support Israel because it encourages Jews to emigrate, which makes life worse for Palestinians and Jews everywhere.
It’s also worth noting that Zionism is anti-Semitic and does not protect Jews from anti-Semitism. It could even be anti-Semitic itself. Both types of anti-Semitism, Zionist and anti-Zionist, should be opposed.
I think this is markedly different to ‘necessary alliances’, like between a national bourgeoisie and a national proletariat against an international bourgeoisie. I think we should be extremely careful about even appearing to be willing to ally with racists even if it seems that our goals align for a brief moment.
I doubt most of them are anti-Semitic. I’m guessing it’s mostly “don’t want to die for “Israel?” You’re an anti-Semite.”
That’s my thinking, too. I’m curious to know whether the institutional racism built into the military makes it kind of ‘natural’ for superiors to interpret the common soldier’s motives as racist. Like an internal/introspective projection. That, in combination with the fact that military officers probably aren’t the brightest in terms of being critical of the world and mainstream narratives of Israel/Palestine. They’re not paid to think outside the box or question received wisdom (orders) unless it comes to military tactics, after all.
I think it is very optimistic to think this (taking it as read, and assiming it’s an issue throughout the military) would seriously impact U.S. involvement, no matter the cause.
The people in the military self-selected there, largely while the U.S. was fighting simmering wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. That means they do not have even a basic understanding of U.S. imperialism and don’t have the mental outs draftees have. Shovel them some propaganda about duty and commitment and the vast majority will fall in line. A few will quietly go AWOL before deployment, but that’ll be it.
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I mean it’s the US military so I’m gonna bet that it’s actually antisemitism. I doubt any of them like Muslims enough to be pro-Palestine either.
The military is a snapshot of a certain younger portion of the US population. AFAIK support for Israel is down across the younger population as a whole, so that’s reflected in the military.
I thought USA numbubweiner 💪😂👌
when /pol/ ideology plays on palestine side
