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    I was banned from Reddit for saying I enjoyed the parts of red dead redemption 2 where you had to kill slave owners and kkk members. Literally said I enjoyed a mainstream video game and the main quest. Inciting violence against polygons in an imaginary world that took place 150 years ago.

    Imagine saying you enjoyed playing Wolfenstein.

    14 year account. RIP.

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      I think reddit ostensibly banned /r/ChapoTrapHouse because the mods weren’t banning people who said slave owners should be killed.

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      Reddit also banned me for saying nazis deserve to be punched. A comment I made under a post similar to this. Appearantly making such posts is fine, but commenting the same shit is unforgivable.

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      I got booted for saying we should kill them, in relation to a repeat offender pdf file.

      Literally the next comment in the thread was saying it should be legal.

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      Wolfenstein: new order is pretty sus.

      In the game there’s actually a Jewish Cabal conspiring against the third riche, which would make the Nazis…right?

      Great game tho 7.8/10

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        And that kind of shit is exactly the reason why there’s still a denazified German version. Killing Nazis isn’t the issue, putting them in a metaphysical context, derealising them, etc, is what’s the problem. You don’t want kids one day to think of Nazis as fictional characters.

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          Wrong. Nazi symbolism is just straight up banned in Germany. There are exceptions for stuff like documentaries and also for use in art. Movies have been accepted as art for a while. Videogames only recently. The regular version os The New Order is now available in Germany. I am german and I have bought on steam.

    • 🦥󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, I’m not sure what’s up over there where it suddenly became not ok to punch Nazis.

      It used to be even mainstream media encouraged punching Nazis. Don’t watch an old Blues Brothers movie if punching Nazis offends you too I guess.

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      It’s infuckingsane to me that not even 100 years since the end of WW2 and there’s still nazis. Fuck Nazis.

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    I was once banned from Reddit for correctly pointing out that the medically approved cure for Nazism is one fist, applied directly to the face repeatedly until the afflicted individual stops being a Nazi.

    The medical professional applying this cure can substitute any handy blunt object for their first if so desired.

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    I’ve only just joined after about 11 years on reddit, and I’ve only just realised we can say this shit about nazis here. I feel like a weight just lifted off my back.

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    Image Transcription: Text and Image:


    THIS IS *NOT* OKAY.

    This sets a dangerous example, and we need to talk about it.

    If you punch a Nazi like this, you’re going to break your wrist. Remember, make contact with the largest two knuckles (index and middle finger) and keep a strong wrist. You want to hurt the Nazi, not yourself!

    Stay safe out there and keep punching Nazis.

    This has been a public service announcement.

    [Two images shown side by side. The first shows a young man in a black shirt standing on a crowded sidewalk, his hand raised above his head in the historical “Nazi salute” with a lightly smug expression. There is a person’s hand holding up their middle finger prominently in his direction visible from the right side of the screen, but everything past their forearm is out of the image frame. In the second image, the same man in the black shirt is shown with his hand at his side, as a second man in an orange shirt is shown in the middle of punching the taller black-shirted man in the jaw. The fist of the man punching is angled slightly upwards at the wrist, so his fist makes contact at the knuckles on his fingers rather than using the flat surface of a typical punch. The image is captured before the man in the black shirt reacts to the punch. The hand holding up a middle finger is still visible in the right of the frame.]


    ^I’m a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

      • Milk@lemmy.sdf.org
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        1. Needing to reinforce that you hate nazis everytime is pretty woke cause woke people are always like “oh, I hate nazis, and look, I’m so cool, I hate them”. It’s just so simplistic and I think I’m just tired of people repeating that word everytime they can.

        2. You shouldn’t use of violence no matter how much of an asshole someone is. If you use violence or threat to use it against someone not in self-defense way, you’ve already lost the battle.

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          Your use of the word “woke” in this thread suggests that your ban from gaming discussions probably arises from others concluding you aren’t the kind of person they want to associate with.

          When Republicans’ lawyers actually have to define it under oath, here’s what they say:

          DeSantis’ general counsel, Ryan Newman, responded that the term means “the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.”

          Believing “wokeness” (as everyone defines it when they’re being honest) to be evil seems like a position that’s hard to support, at least without maintaining an intentional veil of ignorance.

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            Wokeness unlike other words are only associated with bad stuff and doesn’t ever refer to any good part of the left-wing communities, you can identify more as a left guy and still don’t like wokeness no matter what groups you support as it is associated with racism, sexism, double standards coming from someone or some group or entity that supposedly defends equality. Still I don’t know what that has to do with a ring or a game community from a country that doesn’t even know what that term is about.

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              I brought up the gaming because you mentioned in another thread thinking people banned you after you said reasonable things and I observed that it might have been a result of people seeing what you wrote in other places.

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                Unfortunately or fortunately that’s not what happened. I don’t know if that would be any better cause they would at least be reading more things other people say before freaking out for people not liking their political agenda but also would show they’re maybe even more futile.

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                  When you say “political agenda” do you mean, “people trying to be treated fairly and other people trying to prevent that”? I suppose that is technically a political agenda.

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    Reminder that Mahatma Gandhi was a plant by the UK government to stop the india independence movement, and delayed independence by decades. Also a pedophile. Nonviolent protest doesn’t work.

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    Cringe take to glorify any violence for having an opinion even if its offensive just as yours could be equally offensive to them. If you say your feelings aren’t hurt then you actually think violence is a good cause lol

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      Violence is good, especially when punching nazis. The ideology is inherently violent. Punching a nazi is always self-defense.

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    Cool but slippery slope Edit: I feel like a lot of people dont get it. For an example if you ban nazis and they get power they can ban the left side or trans people(etc you get the point). Also just banning stuff can screw up things. Same with allowing hitting someone for their (flawed) ideology. You have to assume that your enemies and also yourself dont have morals. Nazis think they are the good side(idk actually, im not a nazi). Violence and banning things should only be used as an extreme measure.

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      slippery slope

      Nope. A Nazi is well defined.

      Conceptual slippery slope arguments assume that because we cannot draw a distinction between adjacent stages, we cannot draw a distinction between any stages at all.

      Example: "There is no essential difference between 199 and 200 grains of sand or 200 and 201 grains and so on. Thus, there is no difference between 1 grain of sand and 3 billion grains of sand.”

      Slippery Slope Fallacy

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        I think he means that it’s a dangerous precident. Opening the door to political violence not only makes your side look barbarous, but is also a potential justification for future political violence against an arbitrary group.

        I hate Nazis, but we shouldn’t be punching people for saying stupid, hateful shit.

        We should be mocking them mercilessly.

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          If your neighbours started saying your family needs to be put into gas chambers you’d laugh it off? Nazis believe in genocide. It is not a laughing matter. It is a threat.

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            Believing in racial superiority is as absurd as a flat earth, but in-order to be willing to punch someone, you have to take their ideas seriously enough to find them threatening, there-by legitimizing them [for the audience the Nazi is targeting].

            Some rando standing on a street espousing the deranged ramblings of a long-dead dictator is not a legitimate threat in my eyes.

            If the rando is somehow having their verbal excrement backed by the state, then we can talk about violence, but that is not currently the case where I live, and in most of the world.

            I don’t want to debate a Nazi about whether the emperor’s clothes are ugly or not. I’m going to tell everyone the emperor has no clothes.

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              Some rando standing on a street espousing the deranged ramblings of a long-dead dictator is not a legitimate threat in my eyes.

              That’s exactly the first scene of the Twilight Zone episode He’s Alive. Not that it proves anything as it’s just a fictional story but it’s the first thing I thought of.

              An article that also comes to mind is Bartender explains why he swiftly kicks out Nazis even if they’re ‘not bothering anyone’. Basically, if you allow the “rando” Nazi’s a safe place to congregate they’ll tell all their friends who tell their friends and eventually your bar, town square, etc are the local Nazi hangout and the extremists start showing up. Now you have too many Nazis to safely and easily remove.

              Now, you absolutely don’t need to use violence as your language of choice, what’s most important is that you make it loud and clear that trying to put down roots is going to be more trouble than it’s worth.

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      It’s a sheer cliff really. Either you’re punching a nazi or you’re punching someone that doesn’t deserve it. Nazis are usually proud of being Nazis, so they show off with these salutes and their dumb swastika flags. It’s ok to punch people like this. It should in fact be legal.

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    I got banned from a regular sub on Reddit for saying it’s ok to punch Nazis. How refreshing.

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      Probably because it’s not okay to assault people who you disagree with or find unforgivable. Down votes and punching is easy, little kid stuff. Seeing where they are coming from, what they’ve been through, and understanding why they are this way, and helping them see their way out of it. That is the difficult part.

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        “People I don’t agree with” and “Nazis” aren’t the same people. I sympathize with people who have lives that lead them down the path to that, but once they’ve committed themselves to Nazism and start saluting in the street, then there’s no more sympathy.

        To be clear, you can come back from a lot of shitty beliefs. I have. But I also didn’t march in white pride parades with swastikas. I’m not talking about run of the mill conservatives.