My search results keep wanting me to go to Reddit. I’m trying to avoid it, but it keeps calling.
I’m not scrolling there like I did before the “Spez killed the 3rd party app migration”. I miss the level of engagement and ease of finding communities. Lemmy is decent, but the post volume is lacking. If I scroll new now, and again 12 hours later, there’s not much new stuff before I see the stuff from last time.
I have a similar experience, only visiting reddit for stuff like tech problems and very niche communities. I had never willingly visited the reddit homepage since.
There are a lot of posts now on lemmy compared to before the reddit fiasco but is not like the activity on reddit. The good thing though is that it made me stop my habit of mindlessly scrolling through endless content.
I dunno, I browse every 2 or so hours at work at while yeah I’ll find some of the same stuff, the vast majority of my scrolling is new
Because everyone is only half in and going to Reddit still like crack addicts
Not everyone.
If sit down at my desk and use my pc I’ll click the old Reddit bookmark and go on for about 5 minutes. That has only happened about 3 times since Apollo shut down. I almost exclusively used my phone for Reddit before that. Now I bounce between Voyager and YouTube. YouTube for background noise while I’m working, Voyager when I’m idle.
Don’t speak for me boyo, I’m 110 days clean
bros talking like we’re fighting some kind of battle my man ur browsing short form content on the internet calm down
ur not better than anyone and nobody is better than you while yall be death scrolling this brain rot
I just want non monetized media to survive in the future. not everything has to be designed to be addictive and for profit so it’s just sad that people couldn’t hold out from reddit long enough to make a difference or just plain don’t care
you care because youre a reddit addict
shit i care because im a reddit addict from rif
a lot of folks just use the app for their content and its not really that deep, its an unnoticeable change if you werent using 3rd party stuff anyways
though im not sure why people still like the app, its attrocius but then again people liked apollo and apple products for some reason and them hoes ugly asf interfaces too
Wiithout sugar coating it, lemmy sucks (for viewing content like reddit. discussion is a bit better on lemmy kinda). theres no active niche communities and the only content is about israel and linux. the porn sucks too its just pictures so lemmy isnt a very attractive place for reddit people.
I remember when there was a huge amount of complaints when Reddit updated and the top posts started cycling multiple times per day (or per hour) instead of hanging around most of the day
Try Kagi. I’m totally hooked. It’s a refreshing search experience and you can rank reddit as a lower level site so it can still come up, but less likely to be at the top of your search list all the time.
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It’s a war of attrition. Slow and steady will win this race.
Lemmy, just like Mastodon has seen spikes followed by users leaving. But every spike leaves more users on Lemmy/Mastodon than previously.
Truthfully, in the event another Reddit Exodus, which will happen, we need to try and be more of a content-oriented system during that era. Making more posts and focusing on adding to niches.
Reddit is about Niche communities and Content Saturation. Lemmy isn’t really about that, but it can be for moments at a time to pull users in. At some point we’ll reach a critical mass of users that leads to easier justification for new users to join.
We just need a group of extremely disorganized and disagreeable people to organize and and agree on this.
oh no
Reddit also gets a little bit worse every spike, too. There are few mods remaining on Reddit who are doing anything more interesting for their communities than basic spam removal. Automod does all the work when all the largest subs just repost the same content and fake stories anyway.
It’s not like going to implode or anything anytime soon but the quality (from my perspective at least) has totally flatlined since June because why would anyone in their right mind invest creative energy into cultivating a unique community? I think that eventually a Lemmy community will pop up that simply couldn’t exist on Reddit and will serve to illustrate why I believe this model is better.
There is still some new content (rocket league videos come to mind) that is hard to move to a federated platform, because video streaming is expensive.
Another hurdle is getting game devs to treat Lemmy instances for their games as official points of contact, which is definitely something reddit still has that Lemmy doesn’t, unfortunately.
I got questionable game jam games if you want them lol
I think Lemmy would either need to find a way to wean Redditors off of their dopamine machine or replace that dopamine machine long-term to sustain an exodus from Reddit. Either that, or Reddit will need to break their dopamine feedback loop. There are some cracks showing, and that might have already killed the platform in the long term, but it’ll keep going from pure momentum for a while. Maybe as long as months or years.
Seems like there’s more sexists and racists than I used to see over there, which is definitely offputting. I’ve found communities that are supportive of thoughtful discussion are more appealing, and Reddit definitely lacks that lately, outside of some small, relatively niche communities.
Jokes on you, I get dopamine boosts on lemmy as well.
I like your optimism but theres not a lot of great examples of the little guys winning lately. I’m not sure exactly how, but I predict things end badly for Lemmy. Just seems like a more likely outcome in today’s world. Guessing reddit does ok everyone just ends up a bit more miserable than before. Sorry for being a turd, I just think your prediction is statistically unlikely.
Except Lemmy isn’t a single Lemmy.com that will one day run out of money and implode into nothingness.
Lemmy, Mastodon, and other ActivityPub based Fediverse Networks are muliti-node systems.
This is just pure nihilism without a hint of thought put into it. Nothing short of the world exploding and human annihilation will kill Lemmy, And even then, there are bots.
Bonkers. There is a critical mass that keeps people willing to support it. I can run an original Quake server and find a few people to play with, but distrubuted multinode systems don’t mean a damn without a critical mass user base. Lemmy is far from bulletproof.
This is Apples to Oranges.
Quake is dead because modern and frequently updated options exist, even 1-1 like Xonotic.
The alternative to Lemmy is Reddit which will only continue to enshittify.
A more apt comparison is Bullentin boards.
Bulletin boards still exist in the modern era, and are in frequent use, despite their age.
I’m not suggesting this social media format will die, it’s just likely that a corporate entity will develop a lemmy alternative that becomes more popular and causes fatal atrophy or Reddit will get new leadership and Lemmy hopefuls will cross back over if content development here is slower than the collective patience. I’m pro Lemmy FYI, I just don’t understand the unbridled optimism about it’s future.
Unfortunately it only happens in waves… It just has to be inconvenient enough for people to put in the effort to move to lemmy
I’m doing my part! insert starship troopers gif here idk im tech illiterate
I got you.
Would you like to know more?
I would like to know if that little kid was really in the movie or was added later.
I definitely recall them being in that scene, but ive seen the gif so many times that it could be retroactively editing my shit
If more subreddits moved over it might make people more willing to move over as well.
Unfortunately, the community here is worse too.
So there’s two big immediate strikes against moving from Reddit to Lemmy: your favorite niche subs aren’t here and the community is, somehow, worse.
For many people that’s enough. For most of the rest, it only takes one or two other negatives to convince them that this isn’t a reddit replacement.
Only reason I’m not back on Reddit is their garbage app. If they fixed that I’d ditch Lemmy immediately. The community really is worse here, no matter how much they want to claim it’s better.
Define worse? I generally find most interactions to be mostly pleasant.
People here will attack you for having a slightly different viewpoint than the status quo, which I can’t really even figure out. It feels like a tight knit clique, and I’m not a part of it. Often times I just don’t comment on things, because I expect to get downvotes and made fun of.
That’s been the opposite of my experience here on Lemmy and the exact thing I’m experiencing more and more on Reddit.
Likewise. I guess when you hang out on the equivalent of c/denofvipers you shouldn’t expect a terribly friendly community. Don’t like the community? Find a different one! Found your own if you have to!
From what I have seen if you explain your viewpoint people usually tell you why they disagree and you can argue with them as long as you stay respectful.
Just don’t mention any software that isn’t FOSS. Ever.
Agreed.
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Same here. The communities I’ve interacted with here, if I was on the equivalent subreddit, I’d have be downvoted to hell for not knowing enough. I find I’m able to have proper discussions here
Yeah it fucking sucks. Every response is political and hyper hostile, like damn I get it capitalism and the USA have caused some issues but man I am just asking about Taco Bell’s new menu item.
Tried posting about an obscure issue with the latest Steam Deck update and oh my god 1) I was attacked for being wrong, Valve doesn’t make mistakes ever and 2) I don’t understand how dev pipelines work (I work in IT dev for a Fortune 100 company haha)
Posted the same thing on Reddit and the response was like hey thanks for the heads up and then helped people affected by the issue get to resolution.
Lemmy as a community truly is super fucking bitter and it sucks. Hope it changes, Fediverse is a cool idea and I am so down for a Reddit replacement but not if it is gonna be an asshole factory.
I’m sorry, but your comments on the Steam Deck post certainly did not help with the hostility, as you were being quite hostile yourself.
In that post, one person made a snarky retort, and clearly you were understandably upset, but I would argue a good chunk of the hostility in that post comes from you. I think possibly even just starting the post with the title containing “basically bricked my deck” is already framing the discussion in a somewhat inflammatory manner.
This guy is very hostile up and down this thread. I wonder why he receives so much in return that he characterizes an entire platform?
Pretty normal to get hostile when someone gets hostile with you. Exact opposite reaction on the same Reddit thread, underscoring the point that OP is making.
With the rate that Musk is destroying Twitter, Spez is surely going to have another grand fuckup soon.
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What can you expect from a man who has sex with busty lasagna loving cats.
Lemmy will dethrone reddit once you are able to google a question and the Lemmy link is at the top as opposed to reddit
Reddit also had the ability to just type in my address bar “/r/obscurefandom” and be taken directly to the subreddit for it. Lemmy doesn’t have those smaller subs yet and you have to hunt for the right instance if it does.
Even TV shows that have been off air for a decade often have a thriving community. Merlin, the BBC show, has several posts per day. Similarly with Smallville. Lemmy’s communities are smaller and tend to be broken up across instances.
I feel like there needs to be instance aggregation for Lemmy to really work in the long run (and really this is probably true of the fediverse in general). Having to add communities across multiple instances, and not being able to browse them in a centralized way, really detracts from the experience. On Reddit, I subbed to the stuff I wanted and just lived off that feed. With Lemmy, I feel like I have to stay in unfiltered view to get anything of interest–the fragmented niche communities are just too limiting.
Yes, Lemmy is Reddit with extra steps as long as you can’t click this /c/books And see, by default, every books community , on every server at once in a single place.
The Redditors who made it here, saw this and realized the fediverse promise, was just bait.
Reddit will have active subs for specific board games. The general board games magazine on Lemmy has 1 post a month.
So ya, if I want to read comments on the latest episode of Loki to see what things people picked up on that I missed Reddit is currently the only place to find that.
I just started using lemmy today, so I definitely could be wrong. But doesn’t the website browse.feddit.de kind of do this for you already?
This illustrate the fatal flaw with Lemmy.
The fediverse is made pointless because now a community only exists on one server at a time, instead of on every server.
It is Reddit, with extra steps
alternatively r/obscurefetish
Whelp, better get to asking questions… Someone ask me a question to an answer someone may want to search for
What is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
I’ll start with something wholesome:
What’s the best way to make someone smile?
Punch someone they hate.
Just punch Trump then. This will make a lot of people smile.
I’m the leftest leftist ever to left but had to downvote for such low effort
Apply your thumbs in an upward motion to the corners of their mouth. Use force if necessary
Why is my poop green?
Your poop is green because you consumed something with food coloring in it.
Is there anyway to control how high I want my android phone to charge? I would like to set it to 90%.
Not without rooting it or the manufacturer including a custom option for it, but if it has adaptive charging, you can set an alarm and it will charge the phone up to 80% and then wait to charge it the rest of the way to coincide with the alarm so that it isn’t at 100% for a long time.
I was so insulted when I realized I could never root my phone. Fuck Verizon!
If you have root you may want to use something called ACC (Advanced Charging Controller). You can use its official app, ACCA, to install it. Very customizable.
What’s Ligma?
Even then, Reddit has accumulated so much technical advice over the years, I hope I can still find archived posts this way, if ever it truly does crash and burn.
What’s stopping someone from just copying the reddit history and building that knowledge base as under the hood of Lemmy?
And Linux will dethrone windows.
I wish they were true but reality is that people will accept just about any and all abuse and stay with the crap despite sometimes getting angry about it.
Which is never going to happen because you can’t click this /c/books
And fine an agglomeration of all /c/books on all lemmy servers Ina single location.
This cripples any network effect and any benefice of decentralization and federation
Bro, it’s so fucking frustrating that I need to be subbed to 5 different Android communities just to get my news.
I can’t sub to just one because I miss news if I do.
My only hope is that Boost brings multi-reddit support to Lemmy, so I can just click on “Android” and get the news from all 5 Android communities.
“multi Reddit” like feature do not fix the problem.
First, like on Reddit, less than 5% of users will use it as a non default feature which needs to be configured.
Second, even of those people who use the feature, they will have different sets of differently configured “multireddit”.
The end result is a fragmented audience that has no shared experience and never aglomerates to critical mass.
If you have 1725 /c/books communities, that does not make one cohesive books community. These people have nothing in common.
Practical end result, one books community on one Lemmy instance, is “the one big community” and almost every other gets 1 post per year on average, which is never seen by anyone.
For every big community, every once in a while, the moderation dictators sell out or otherwise piss off the community enough that it fragments. That works as well as the current transition from Reddit to Lemmy.
Each schism doesn’t create a new, better community, it creates a smaller, less active community at the expense of the larger one.
There needs to be a single point of agglomeration, which works by default for any community name.
And moderation needs to be something dive by every user and moderation needs to be a filter that you subscribe to.
Since lemmy instance are hit and miss. Some popular ones are already talking about shutting down or have shut down. I highly doubt lemmy will get there.
Yeah, reddit admins won. Most people don’t care and at this point its hard to see what the admins could do to start a real exodus. Hell, my reddit usage is way down, but I still go there for niche subjects (anime, philosophy) because nowhere else is comparable.
Are you saying anime is niche?
Or philosophy for that matter
Anime has more broad appeal but the philosophical community on Lemmy seems virtually non-existent. Reddit even had graduate students/professors answering questions on r/askphilosophy. And r/askhistorians had even more success. It’s going to take a while for that to be replicated here.
AH won’t be replicated here. It isn’t large enough.
Depends, there’s so much of it that there’s bound to be niche here and there
they may have won this battle but the war is still ongoing. reddit is a public company, and it is a modern website, which means it is going to get shittier and shittier and it is never going to stop. i still go there for sports and news but anything of substance or merit i try to share here instead because fuck them. i think over time it’ll hollow itself out even more.
reddit is a public company
I don’t think they are public yet, the reason they pulled their little stunt in the first place is to prep for their IPO release. I think the general uproar probably set them back a while, but I’m sure the IPO is coming.
Oh after all this shit, did they still not do their IPO they were talking about forever? Jfc that place is a joke.
Not yet, don’t think they were expecting the revolt they ended up with. Investors aren’t going to be too excited to buy an IPO whose consumers are that upset when they try to monetize their platform.
I’m a bit surprised to hear that. I don’t visit there anymore and only get my Reddit news from the occasional Reddit bashing post here.
And from those posts, there are a lot of people saying the protests don’t do shit.
If they are still waiting on this IPO so many months later, then clearly they made a boo boo lol.
I wouldn’t say that it worked, more that it did some damage. They are still going to go public, which means it’s going to eventually be fully monetized. This just did some damage to their quarterly, which is still a win in my book.
I cant say they won all around. As a tech guy, now when i look up tech info and click on a reddit link 90% of the top answers are deleted(including all mine from the last 12 years).
Before the exidus, Reddit was already a painful hassle to use, unable to view many normal subreddits now, 80% of my screen taken up by login and cookie warnings, forcing logins, asking if you want the app multiple times. Slow, clunky, broken UI.
IF i want to give info to the Reddit people, i only post links to topics over on Lemmy.
4chan’s /a/ board isn’t good anymore? ;)
/a/ was never good
Man, that’s a classic.
The only thing that keeps me going back to Reddit is extremely niche subreddits having no mass here. Honestly if the Nuzlocke subreddit had more activity, I’d probably never open Reddit
Yeah I still use reddit for football. Bluesky is getting better(still too little content), but mastodon was just full of spam for me.
The best community for tea ☕ is on Reddit too, but it’s mainly that and Ukrainian news that I browse.
I’m totally not on Reddit.
Cool, I got my own meme now! ^^
hmmmm…
Ditto. I also jumped ship and have not gone back. I barely even click on any of the links here to go back to old reddit
Also you are totally not spez!
Obviously
A lot of subs never really got a foothold outside of Reddit. I tried to do what I could and I’m still trying my best but I’m only one guy and I’m not good at making content. Barely anyone from the BrandoSando subs came, the incremental games community gave up before it even started, no community that I know has had a successful offshoot in the fediverse.
Reddit didn’t start that specific, the best thing to grow Lemmy is be active in broad communities, not brandosando but books. When books grows large enough then a sanderverse community can be spun off, but trying to be over specialized just dilutes the users into small inactive communities.
I think that’s a very good point.
Never been part of that community personally, but thanks for helping to support the platform. Even if you’re not seeing much traction, it’s appreciated. What would you think of picking the most engaging Reddit content and migrate it here to help boost community size? Or maybe posting to Reddit with a watermark/credit leading to your Lemmy community?
Same with a lot of the subs I was at on Reddit. Stable Diffusion is no when near as active as Reddit’s.
I was a frequent visitor of the BrandoSando subs. I just haven’t found anything over here, though. Got any links? I’ll join up and try to contribute, but I’m like you. I’m not great or consistent in content creating either.
It’s on https://sffa.community. But that’s another problem. I think a lot of communities besides the main ones on here thought they’d just make a community and people would start posting. They didn’t post anything to bring people in and they didn’t know to go federate their community with other instances. The most active communities here are, !sffgaming@sffa.community, which is me, !brandonsanderson@sffa.community, !imaginarycosmere@sffa.community, and !cosmere@sffa.community .
Thank you! My biggest issue has been I just don’t know how to look for them. I’ve tried searches, but I’m still searching like I would for a subreddit.
Yeah, it can be tricky. This is probably one of the biggest issues with the fediverse.
I deleted my Reddit account but there are some subs I greatly miss. Shame the majority of their members didn’t move over to Lemmy due to lack of care.
I lurk the Reddit’s onion site using tor and turn JavaScript off. I don’t even have an account there anymore so I can’t comment on anything. This way they don’t get any advertising dollars from me. But it’s the best way for me to keep up with what’s new and upcoming in some special fields that I’m in.
it really shows the percentage of selfish/spineless assholes on social medial.
At the very least if gave us a good way to filter them off our threads I guess.
I’ll be honest, I am still browsing Reddit, though in a more limited fashion. I deleted all my submissions and comments and refuse to post or comment, no matter how strong the urge to correct misinformation regarding topics I am interested in is. Communities for those topics are generally non-existent, got created and withered within a month of the 3rd-Party-Exodus, or in the case of /r/leagueoflegends and its local mirrors, are generally carried by the eSport scene and there is generally no decent discussion to be had outside of that. And I don’t even know if one of the League communities here even does post-match threads.
I noticed a massive drop of quality after the api changes (though it’s been declining for a couple years now) and after a while I just realized there is no point, so I mostly only kept subreddits related to my country. The balance of repost bots/trolls/idiots/people who think saying the same joke a million times is funny vs. people you actually can converse with really started outweighing the latter ever since covid hit and Reddit got even more popular (it was on a slow decline regardless). The api changes just made everything even worse.
I’d like to think things here will be better, and to be honest I’m really liking Lemmy so far.
The quality of reddit posts outside of niche communities or events has tanked a lot. Most of the stuff at the top is AITA(H), the most basic questions, and reposts, with some short video clips and the occasional comic. Doesn’t help that it is known that someone is using LLMs for bot accounts.
Agree on communities over here getting created during the exodis, seeing a small surge, and then kind of withering. I’m subbed to 15ish communities that aren’t even all that niche (3D printing, photography, woodworking) and it’s rare that they all get one post per day. There are obviously people lurking because posts will get comments, but I think we’re all a little wary of being the person to post a bunch of content for fear of no one else doing so.
Tbf, now that I’ve jumped over here and gotten comfortable, its nice that lemmee itself isnt abusive, but good god are the communists here fucking retarded. And I say this as someone who liked the ideals of communism. Its like how I liked the Idea of Telsas until I met Tesla owners
Edit: Lmao the most controversial part of this statement is merely one of the words I used. One of the things I appreciate about Lemmy is that it shows both the up and downvotes
Edit 2: Look at me! IM the controversy now!
It’s actually pretty funny how many discussions about Reddit, Twitter, and Threads happening in the Fediverse.
I just deleted my Reddit account a few months ago (and my Twitter account years ago) and I don’t think I miss anything.
I miss reddit every day. The niche communities were large enough there to have content.
I said I’d leave at the end of June if they went through with the API changes bc and I did. But of they reversed course today I’d absolutely go back instantly.
The good news is now you get to help establish those communities you once loved
Exactly! Beautiful statement! 👍👍👍
Nah, for me Reddit made me understand centralization in exchange for niche communities isn’t worth the trade offs that vom with it. I’d rather start new communities on Lemmy than going back to Reddit. I do miss r/rimjobsteve though
This whole reddit thing has made me want more FOSS in my life in general.
Not that I didn’t understand monopolies to begin with, but Reddit and Unity and Twitter and Google searches with 25 useless SEO AI-articles that explain nothing and ads and ads and ads and ads and ads; it’s just gotten exhausting.
I’ve actually just found myself doing more stuff since I quit reddit.
same tbh lol, I only lost the tales from reddits but like those were usually toxic anyway at times.
I miss the hell out of my Twitter feed.
It’s dead though, half my community left but it really broke up the network.
The only time I think about Reddit is when you degens bring it up. :|
That’s how it works in most abusive relationships. The perpetrator behaves terribly and then is forgiven. Like the tide coming in each time the abuse is worse, more damaging or in this case more demeaning, but the cost of exiting the relationship is too high because it means to become alone and people hate loneliness more than being shit upon so they complain and stay and hope that this time it will be better even though if they think about it they know it won’t be.
I was mostly on Reddit for hockey game threads. Lemmy sucks for that at the moment, so… I went to discord. Fuck spez
Eventually we should move to something like Matrix or at least Revolt (still waiting on an actual Android app for that one)
Oh, I hadn’t looked for hockey on discord Say what you will about reddit, I do kinda miss r/canucks, the happiest group of sad folks on the internet!
Any suggestions for a discord newbie on finding hockey communities?
he’s a speze of shit
