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LOL - fucken brazen. I cannot wait to see the libs twist themselves into knots trying to get upset at this without giving up their game.
idk a lot of them probably wouldn’t even realize they’re giving the game away and just get openly mad at it
There’s no cognitive dissonance with the libs. They’ll say it’s okay when they do it because they’re “protecting freedom and democracy,” but if China and Russia are doing it it’s “authoritarian aggression.”
Now, I also think it’s good when our side does it and bad when the other does it, but I don’t pretend to be impartial.
I don’t think it’s all the same. Remember that China did not have a blue ocean navy in the 1800s, hence the century of humiliation. This may in fact be the first of a kind event and a further extension as China fully stands up.
yankies never not getting brazy
God i can’t wait for us to get our asses cratered. Something might actually change around here for once
How about do this but around Niger because the west is not far from invading them and if they manage to resist their ECOWAS pawns I suspect a freedoming from some western nation is coming. Doubt the US will want to launch a full scale invasion but they have troops there who refuse to leave and an assault on the leadership using special forces, drones, gunships? Seems plausible.
Niger is landlocked though.
I know. Was a joke. Though I wouldn’t be opposed to them someone putting wheels on their warships and moving them about on land. Should at the very least cause some NATO jaws to drop.
NonCredible af
Of course, key context is date: 17 june 1917. By that time USA was fresh into the WW1, and the implication of the 3 years of naval warfare included the fact that predrednought battleships was all but useless - slow, weakly armed, and very vulnerable especially to mines. And US Navy had tons of those ships which were incredibly propagandised (like in case of Great White Fleet).
So the US jingos of 1917, differing very little from the US jingos of 2023, were choking hard on the pill that their very expensive toys are just scrap and that resulted, except the usual screeching you could expect from angry jingos, with ideas like this.
Ultimately Washington Treaty from 1922 (signed accompanied by incredible amount of screeching of jingos from all included countries) just send all that scrap to scrap.
The idea itself is of course completely unfeasible from the point of engineering and also tactical nonsense too, which make that right side text even funnier, as you can see not only jingos but journos too changed very little in last century.
I’m excited in a terrified and actually not all that excited way for the “find out stage” of “fuck around and”
They did find out US will not protect Philippines.
Is it a good idea to poke at the only country in the world to have ever used nuclear weapons against people?
What’s the alternative, to just let US continue holding the whole planet hostage?
Let’s see. Russia could do something about all the oligarch children living in USA (along with their oligarch parents sometimes). There was a bill introduced a couple of years ago that would forbid Duma membership for holders of foreign real estate and business (IIRC, I’ll have to check specific wording of the proposal), plus bits about foreign citizenship. It was shot down.
China could start embargoes of their own. They’ve already started with the gallium export. Or do they honestly believe allowing a Tesla factory in China would translate to Musk lobbying the yankee government to go easy?
And you don’t think that would antagonise the US as well? The US has gone on record saying that they will treat economic attacks as military action.
Yes actually. Russia and China are both nuclear powers and the US is arrogant but not completely ignorant of reality. They wouldn’t dare use nuclear weapons on either. They don’t even dare Russia to use theirs by getting directly involved in Ukraine with open NATO battalions as they would if Russia didn’t have nukes. They’re not going to commit suicide by using a nuclear weapon in anger over a transit or minor territorial violation.
With the kind of redacted running the show over there? I am no longer certain of it. We are dealing with people who deliberately organise massacres to prop up their bloated financial system for a few more years. I am no longer sure they quite understand the implications of a nuclear war. Or even a conventional one.
You never know…
Look, the US would not hesitate to nuke China/Russia or any real competitor state if they thought they could escape being destroyed by retaliation. So it’s not that they’re above it. Or that they’re not deranged enough to try and find an excuse if they think they can come out of it ahead. It’s just that patrols around their waters are not going to push them to do it. If they intend to do it because they’re backed into a corner and think odds are good they’ll do it, they won’t use a patrol as pretext as that’s weak even for them. So it won’t tip the scales either way is what I’m saying.
The US does this to China every week. It’s time China starts standing up to them.
The U.S. does something much more brazen – sailing through the Taiwan straight despite formally recognizing the island as part of China.
