• Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Is it a good idea to poke at the only country in the world to have ever used nuclear weapons against people?

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        Let’s see. Russia could do something about all the oligarch children living in USA (along with their oligarch parents sometimes). There was a bill introduced a couple of years ago that would forbid Duma membership for holders of foreign real estate and business (IIRC, I’ll have to check specific wording of the proposal), plus bits about foreign citizenship. It was shot down.

        China could start embargoes of their own. They’ve already started with the gallium export. Or do they honestly believe allowing a Tesla factory in China would translate to Musk lobbying the yankee government to go easy?

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          And you don’t think that would antagonise the US as well? The US has gone on record saying that they will treat economic attacks as military action.

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      Yes actually. Russia and China are both nuclear powers and the US is arrogant but not completely ignorant of reality. They wouldn’t dare use nuclear weapons on either. They don’t even dare Russia to use theirs by getting directly involved in Ukraine with open NATO battalions as they would if Russia didn’t have nukes. They’re not going to commit suicide by using a nuclear weapon in anger over a transit or minor territorial violation.

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        With the kind of redacted running the show over there? I am no longer certain of it. We are dealing with people who deliberately organise massacres to prop up their bloated financial system for a few more years. I am no longer sure they quite understand the implications of a nuclear war. Or even a conventional one.

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          Look, the US would not hesitate to nuke China/Russia or any real competitor state if they thought they could escape being destroyed by retaliation. So it’s not that they’re above it. Or that they’re not deranged enough to try and find an excuse if they think they can come out of it ahead. It’s just that patrols around their waters are not going to push them to do it. If they intend to do it because they’re backed into a corner and think odds are good they’ll do it, they won’t use a patrol as pretext as that’s weak even for them. So it won’t tip the scales either way is what I’m saying.

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        The U.S. does something much more brazen – sailing through the Taiwan straight despite formally recognizing the island as part of China.