Lemmy world is considering defederating from us due to the “same reasons” as Hexbear. They will go on the wall of shame, they couldn’t handle our facts. But on the upside you’ll see much fewer libs 😁

Also remember that you speak mostly for the audience. You talk to one person in a debate, but plenty of people listen and that’s where the real reach is. We have actually already brought some people over with our arguments, as I’ve seen in comments and account requests. I don’t want to pretend there’s been dozens of people joining over this, but there’s certainly been some.

edit: but you are justified in not engaging with them either.

Many such cases! You can take the redditor out of , but not the out of the redditor.

I know we’re (hexbearians) not technically supposed to do this outside of our own instance, but your general level of anxiety and growing antipathy is why the ‘Chapo Posting Method’ was created.

It’s essentially the online leftist answer to the general question posed by Sartre’s Anti-Semite and Jew. If they are not going to take words and the conversation seriously (and why would they when there is no material incentive to do so, it is just a game of psychological aggrandizement to them) then you are under no obligation to do so. There are rarely any bystanders, and if there are, the point isn’t to convince them that you are right, the point is to convince them that you are funny, because people habitually listen to people they find funny and make them laugh. And these redditor-types, despite their two second replies ultimately take themselves very seriously so they’re easy marks for this stuff. Never be the nerd in the room.

Yeah, im not reading all that tankie. Happy for you, or sorry that happened, i guess.

No but jokes aside yeah I catch myself writing something and deleting it midway when I realize what I’m doing. I think there are cases where interacting with such people is worth the effort in a gamble, you know I’m sure out of all the effortposts you’ve made surely a few fell on receptive ears, even if you didn’t see the fruits of your labor. So as an occasional thing I think it is ultimately productive, the most receptive people will be lurkers silently reading who will take multiple interactions with “tankies” before it amounts into a change. But it definitely is not good to do as a habit.

Very relatable, I have a bunch of ex reddit trolls following me around like flies after the migration. They literally jump into every thread to attack me and downvote everything I post to lemmy.ml. Blocking them is really the only way to stay sane.

Just spam this when they start acting like cringe R*dditors:

The worst part, for me, is how aware they are that their politicians are corrupted and bad, that their police is killing innocent people, that their media is lying to them… excpet in foreign politics.

There they are always right, same people who are wrong about everything internally.

I think if lemmy had per user instance blocking that would he nice. It would allow federation with lib instances while also allowing those who do not want lib interaction to have to deal with it.

You should under no circumstances take these people seriously. The only correct response to reddit debate bros is

Hello me, I’m you.

I’ve basically burned out and mostly spend my time doing my historical research and other hobbies, heck I’ll even take long periods off to touch grass, sand, mountain rocks, and so forth just to actually reconnect with reality. Like I’m learning table or card games just to play with friends, coworkers, and acquaintances and delving into the whole apolitical Americana culture damn near everyone lives and I’ve slowly started to realize the entirety of online culture is so toxically abnormal and unhuman that telling people to touch grass has taken on a while new level of meaning.

I’ve been finding myself writing paragraph or even multi paragraph responses to random people’s hot takes which they probably spent two seconds thinking through before posting, and I have been deleting them because I realized that I don’t fucking care and it’s not worth my own time, energy, or mental health.

Could be worse, could be westolefto debatebro baiting you for wall exchange who sounds at first reasonable but after you waste potentially hours on that, they will call you red fash and quote some wiki 😑

Redditors are very easy to detect due to the fact that they use a jargon typical of that place and that they cannot avoid bringing to the rest of the internet with themselves. Stuff like saying “oh you sweet summer child”, replying “this” to comments they agree with, congratulating others for their “cake day”, or simply making comparisons with reddit directly (“this is exactly as it was in r/example”). There are more, and most times they are subtle, but when you see them you will know that they are people who come from reddit to turn this place into Reddit 2.

The solution? Just mock them for being redditors.

I also find it difficult to respond to a comment without writing a mini essay, not because I lack succinctness, but I find it lackluster to respond to a comment I think should be corrected with only the correction and zero justification or context. To refrain from my compulsion, I have also chosen to not debate those people. Happy you’re prioritizing your mental health OP.

I have found that the ones actually here to discuss things and learn about us aren’t going to be put off by a few snide insults. They react with confusion, because they’re sincere and don’t understand why someone would tease them for that. Because we aren’t teasing people for being sincerely curious, we tease people for having their head stuck up their own ass. So it is really easy to tell who is here to actually learn about a different viewpoint, and who is here to just be a smug asshole, confident in their ignorance of a topic they know nothing about.

The trick is not engaging with them, as you’ve said, it’s very tempting, but it is just a waste of time. That’s why they do it. They’re just attention seeking losers, flailing their arms around and making a scene so they can umm acktually the person telling them to stop.

Hopefully now with the Hexbear federation we’ll be able to learn from the experts when it comes to dealing with lib trolls.

You can take the lib out of Reddit, but you can’t take the Reddit out of the lib. Look after yourself, you gotta pick your battles to maintain your own sanity with these people.