What irks me the most is the spinelessness of a lot of mods. Shadow banning and banning without an explanation just striffling free speech without acountability. Freedom of expression should not be subject to the whims of individuals!
If this gets me banned than you are worse than spez
Yeah, I’d like to hear exactly what free speech was suppressed. Because the vast majority of these rants have a very interesting post/comment history.
Not exactly free speech violations like OP is stating, since what happened is the same solution as here, i.e. create a new community and use that, so it’s not Reddit issue, but the specific mod of the specific community.
In Reddit there were (possibly still are) two large Bitcoin communities,
/r/bitcoinand/r/btc. One of them is extremely censored, and you will get banned for criticising a specific feature that was introduced in Bitcoin a while back. The other one is a lot more open to discussion and doesn’t ban people for criticising or approving that (or any other) change. You would see at least once a week someone coming to the newer subreddit because he was banned from the other one, for example I was banned for linking a GitHub page that was in the sidebar as a resource (because in the context of the discussion that page proved a mod wrong).I’m not saying this is common place, but it happens, and because the vast majority of people know about Bitcoin but don’t know it’s usually abbreviated btc they’re likely to find the first community. Again I’m not claiming this is a violation of free speech, not even arguing this is a bad thing (since I agree the solution is to create your own community with blackjack and hookers) I’m just pointing that mods banning people just because happens, so there is a grain of truth there.
Reddit will close subreddits that do not delete Hamas footage, for example. So mods have to choose which way to go.
Hamas are right up there with the Nazis as people we don’t need to include in our discussion about how to run a civil society. I say this as a lifelong supporter of the Palestinian cause. Fuck Hamas. Is anyone complaining that tech companies prevent ISIS from using their platforms? Hamas are no better.
I do not understand. I gave an example of absurd censorship. They censor big, negative names because it costs them money. It has nothing to do with Hamas itself. They did not censor them before the attack. The do not censor many other terrorist groups right now, because they are not in the media. They allow(ed?) ISIS content.
Understanding how terrorists operate, based on their go pro footage, seems pretty useful to me. It is also an excellent way to get a realistic view about what happened. They even remove videos where the terrorists were hunted down if it was from their perspective.
It seems you do not understand. Tech companies do everything they can to ensure that terrorists and hostile regimes do not use their service. When ISIS communicate on Facebook, that puts Facebook in jeopardy with the government. Negligence on this is the best thing Facebook can do to invite Congress in to regulate them. I’m not saying that every company does a perfect job or even a good job but to say that removing Hamas content is new or special in any way… yeah you just haven’t seen the inside of a major company’s trust and safety team. If Hamas is prioritized more than last year, maybe it’s because they’ve removed any ambiguity about whether they are the elected authorities in Gaza or terrorists. They’re also probably waging more intense information campaigns than ever since their attack was designed to stir their supporters and put them in conflict with Israel. Yeah, fuck Hamas. If you want to cry censorship, find someone worth defending.
You really need to stop making straw mans. Read what I said, not what you think I said. I gave a specific example of what was discussed. No more and no less.
You said that disallowing Hamas produced video is an example of suppression of free speech and constitutes “absurd censorship.”
Mate, you must be confusing me with someone else.
My reddit account was recently perm banned for messaging a mod who banned me from a sub for mockingly repeating their policy back to them on attribution and OC. Granted, I was perma banned for “harrassment”. I am skeptical of the people you are talking about as well as many of them are kinda awful community members but I think its a mistake to dismiss all these guys as people who just want to say racial slurs or something.
It sounds like you were trolling, spamming and harassing?
I wasn’t trolling at all. I’m not sure how that could be your take away with the information I gave. I guess you’re in favor of moderation that limits discussion and opposing viewpoints. Most authoritarian are though so I can’t be suprised.
Arguing with a mod isn’t trolling. Disagreeing with a mods decisions isn’t spam or harassment. I guess you’ve found a great way to control speech you don’t like though. Anytime someone says something you dislike call it trolling, spam and harrassment and oila, you can effectively control every message board in existence.