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      According to my grandfather, the fact that he’s supposedly anti-abortio makes him a “man of god.”

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        I want to reduce abortions by providing easy access to sex ed and free condoms. Abortions should still be 100% legal and easy to get, but there ought be less of them cause they suck to go through.

        Anyway, hail Satan.

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        Ironic and apologies for your dumbass grandfather; Trump has probably paid for enough abortions and NDA’s related to fund the capital of a small town

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        Is your Grandfather aware there are people of other religions that are also anti-abortion or does his thought process not extend that far?

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      He posed for a photo with a bible once (just after having a peaceful protest violently disbanded), and he occasionally says the “God Bless America” platitude.

      That’s all most conservative religious people need

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        Ain’t no way. The only “religion” that shitbird subscribes to is the narcissism of self-adoration. He doesn’t believe in anything, his life is eternally rooted in being seen. So yeah, a classic GOP Christian, right on

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        No. He would show up holding the Quran, the Torah, or even the Satanic Bible if he thought it would get him a single extra vote. The only person Donald Trump worships is Donald Trump. He is incapable of believing that there could ever be any authority higher than himself.

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          a) Being a christian really only requires a declaration of belief, AFAIK b) I’m genuinely convinced a lot of grifters believe their own bs. Not all of it, obviously, but I think he really does believe that he is a christian paragon and that the US should be returned to being christian nation, and any falsehood he knowingly advances is justified because it advances those goals. Not to say that this wouldn’t change if the tides in US politics turned, but I’m pretty sure that most professional liars like him genuinely eat their own manure.

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    I’m 100% convinced that if Christ came today the majority of white American Christians would call him a demon and one of them will end up shooting him. Especially if he came back as a man of color that spread anti-capitalist ideas and hung out with the poor, sick, and unwanted. They’d never, ever, tolerate that.

    IF Christianity is true, a large amount of souls of self-proclaimed “Christians” are in danger of damnation. They are actually doing Satan’s work for him. The issue are the ones 100% certain they are “saved” while spouting racist, evil things at the same time. How do you talk to people like that? How do you convince them that they are in fact 100% wrong and likely going to the same hell they claim everyone else is going to? I’m an atheist, so most wouldn’t even take me seriously.

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      There was actually an opening to an episode of American Gods that has that exact scenario. He literally walks across the Rio Grande and after he gets to shore a bunch of hilbillies with religious iconography alongside their confederate flags roll up in their lifted trucks and shoot him with a fully automatic weapon.

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        LOL wow.

        Makes me wonder how many racists watched that episode and thought to themselves “that would never be me” while fully supporting the mentality behind it.

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      Healed the sick

      Conservative Christians : “Healthcare is communism!”

      Welcomed weary travelers

      Conservative Christians : “Send them back to their own country!”

      Forgives other people he believes goes against the teachings of god and cares for them

      Conservative Christians : “Your love is not natural and you shouldn’t exist!”

      They just want to feel like they are righteous and good

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        You forgot the best past. He hung out with a group of men and one woman, and the one woman wasn’t any of the men’s girlfriend. Conservative Christians would perhaps thought this was an unnatural arrangement.

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      I mean look what happened to MLK Jr…

      The FBI would probably investigate him and then he’d be murdered by white supremacists.

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      Yeah, that’s what I always think. For me (German), Christianity is mostly acceptance of other people, empathy, caring for people who have it worse than you, loving your next, etc. Which in policies is… being for welfare, donating, accepting LGBTQ+ and supporting them, etc.

      Evangelicals have always confused me because they are against everything Jesus stood for.

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        A lot of Christian denominations would disagree with you on this. It is also a bit absurd to make absolute claims about what Christianity is and is not because it varies greatly from denomination to denomination (none of which has a monopoly on their interpretation of the bible).

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        Better take another look at the Bible, because Jesus disagrees. In fact, he is kind of a fetishist about all the suffering he will visit on those who don’t worship him.

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        Mark 9:

        47 And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48 where

        “‘the worms that eat them do not die,

        and the fire is not quenched.’[d]

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    If Jesus came along today, they’d cast him out as a socialist and probably kill him in a botched police raid.

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    Trump isn’t -The- Antichrist, because that was likely just a bible story warning of populist leaders. But he is -an- antichrist.

    He’s not the first and probably not the last, but he has the power to make deeply “Christian” people openly forsake their religion…and if that’s not an antichrist, I don’t know what is.

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    I stopped going to church when I realized how hypocritical the people who attended churches are. “Love thy neighbor, except those gays, brown people, liberals, pro-choicers( except when I need, or my teenage daughter needs an abortion), anyone who lives on the west coast, drives a Tesla, eats an avocado, believes in vaccines, voted for Biden, didn’t vote for Trump, wants raise minimum wage, oh and definitely those climate change believers. They can all go rot in hell. 'Merica!!! Fuckin Yeehaww!! Pew pew pew!!!”

    This guys a pastor and I figured this out when I was 15…I’m 41.

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      I wasn’t raised with a religion (parents were both atheists), but when i was around 15-16 I got curious. I started attending the youth group at the local feel good church up the street and literally every single sermon was about how teenagers have urges, but we must resist them as sex before marriage was a terrible sin.

      Well after a couple months of weekly don’t have sex meetings the cops showed up to arrest the youth pastor for something like 27 counts of statutory rape. He had been sleeping with all the girls in the youth group ranging from 18 all the way down to the 13 year-olds.

      The only reason he got caught was because two of the girls got into an argument about how they were his one true love, and one of them called the cops on the other one because she got called a bad name. That ended my very short experiment with religion, bunch of fucking hypocrites pretending they’re better than other people while doing exactly what they tell others not to… at least the sex I was having was legal.

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    If there’s one thing everyone can say about Trump, it’s “this guy isn’t on my side”.

    It just takes longer and comes as more of a surprise to some than others.

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      Well, some say money talks, and I’m sure Trump’s on the side of the Dollar 😛

      But considering how many people he have thrown under the bus so far, it’s amazing how many that are still waiting in line

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    Oh look, subverting a message of peace and love with one of violence and hatred created a monster, how shocking.

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    There is still hope that those pastors get smart and actually voice against Trump. From a Christian perspective, Trump leaves a lot to be desired. Just point out a sin or two of the orange-haired idiot in each of your weekly sermons to make the congregation see the light. You will not run out of fresh sins until the next decade.

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      I don’t think so. The flock will migrate to a different church more in tune with what they want to believe.

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      It is too late, conservative media has created a monster that even the honest religious leaders cannot control

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      That’s how you get to “evangelicals think Jesus is a leftist pussy”.

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      Nope.

      Had a couple of conversations with randoms about this. They know and don’t care. I guess Jesus is “one of the good ones”.

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    “Jews” for Jesus and Messianic “Judaism” were invented to lure Jews into Christianity. They are Christians who want to be quirky.

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      Every Messianic Jew I’ve ever met has been born into that religion. Maybe there are some Jews who convert and become Messianic Jews, but I think it’s rare.

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      I’m not familiar with Raw Story, can anybody confirm their reliability in general? This article seems solid but the name makes me think of all of those weird right wing “news” websites. Looking over it a bit it definitely doesn’t seem to be one of those though so idk.

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        It’s a progressive new site, and this story links to an NPR interview with the pastor who says Christianity is crisis:

        “It was the result of having multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching — “turn the other cheek” — [and] to have someone come up after to say, “Where did you get those liberal talking points?” And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, “I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ,” the response would not be, “I apologize.” The response would be, “Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak.” And when we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.”

        So it’s definitely a real story.

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        I take all articles with a grain of salt. Look at the person who wrote the article, look at what they post and think for yourself if that person has bias or not.

        Most of the time people will have a bias which is normal for humans, we tribilize into groups.

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          This story links to an NPR interview with the pastor who says Christianity is in crisis:

          “It was the result of having multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching — “turn the other cheek” — [and] to have someone come up after to say, “Where did you get those liberal talking points?” And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, “I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ,” the response would not be, “I apologize.” The response would be, “Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak.” And when we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.”

          It’s a real story.

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          And there’s also Occam’s razor. MAGA shitheads are hateful. This is probably true on that alone. But I’ve also seen a couple other articles of Christian’s alarmed at the same trend. The truthiness is strong. I can feel it.

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          Look at the person who wrote the article, look at what they post and think for yourself if that person has bias or not

          ahem…

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    Protip: Jews for Jesus aren’t Jews, I hope I’ve cleared that up for anyone still confused.