• haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
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      „Free“ online play is kind of a marketing gag. I have heard that consoles seem to want money for online play which is ridicolous. If the server is run on the users pc/console, there is literally no reason for taking money for online capability.

      And yes, linux support is pretty awesome. Also steam link!

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Sony now expects to sell 4 million fewer PS5 consoles in its 2023 fiscal year ending March 31st compared to previous projections, Bloomberg reports.

    In its third quarter, Sony’s gaming revenue was up 16 percent versus the same period the previous year, sitting at 1.4 trillion yen (around $9.3 billion), but operating income was down 26 percent to 86.1 billion yen (around $572 million) due to promotions in the third quarter ending on December 31st.

    According to Sony, the company plans to emphasize profitability over unit sales as the console approaches its fourth birthday.

    “Looking ahead, PS5 will enter the latter stage of its life cycle,” said Sony senior vice president Naomi Matsuoka in comments reported by Bloomberg.

    For this reason, we expect the annual sales pace of PS5 hardware will start falling from the next fiscal year.” Sony added it has no plans to release “any new major existing franchise titles” in its next fiscal year.

    Later this year, Microsoft is expected to release a refreshed Xbox Series S and a disc-less Xbox Series X codenamed Brooklin with double the amount of storage as its existing model, while Nintendo is also expected to release a follow-up to its seven year-old Switch console.


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    The PS5 IMO is one of the (if not the) ugliest recent gen game consoles anybody’s released. Thing looks fucking atrocious and it’s huge. I’m pretty casual and don’t give a lot of shits about bleeding edge whatever and literally it was the way this thing looks that swayed me away from buying one a couple years ago.

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      The design does look like it’s from one of those ‘this is what the PS4 will look like in 2010’ videos you’d see on YouTube in 2008 next to the Xbox 720 and Nintendo WiiDS. Should’ve also given the controller 4 analogue sticks to really sell it.

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    When looking at the generational shifts between console gens. The PlayStation 5 didn’t fix any problems the industry was having. Especially when you compare the jump in quality between PS2/Xbox and PS3/360, where rendering individual fingers didn’t bring the games performance to a halt. Or the PS3/360 to the PS4/Xbone, where the consoles were given a usable amount of RAM that the devs needed from 256/512 respectively to 8GB on both.

    But other than a slight performance boost and the new GPU buzzword “Ray Tracing” slapped on these systems. They cost more than the older systems did, and don’t offer any new experience which the previous gen systems do.

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      I gotta say, the SSD makes a huge difference. Makes me wonder how much of my life was wasted staring at load screens.

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        You can install an SSD in a PS4 you know. Plus its not like Sony Couldn’t add a NVMe slot on a PS4 Pro.

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          I could, but considering it’s a dying system and PS5 plays all the same games, it didn’t seem like the best option.

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      I’ve been the person to buy a console when there’s the killer game/feature worth upgrading for.

      Historically I’ve bought the bundles with a few games just in time for the new launch of a new software.

      I ended up with a PS2/GameCube/Wii, a PS3/Xbox360/WiiU and PS4/Xbox One/Switch. I don’t mind buying consoles to play a few games.

      That moment just hasn’t happened this generation. I can still play most of the big exclusives on the last gen hardware anyways.

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        I avoided the PS4 for years until I was able to justify buying either it or the Xbone. When the Xbones only claim to fame (for me) was the Rare Replay collection and Sunset Overdrive, and the PS4 was Infamous Second Son and Uncharted 4 I waited. Eventually I was able to justify the PS4 with the addition Persona 5, Wipeout Omega Collection, Horizon Zero Dawn, Spiderman, and a way to play Ubisoft games without giving my PC Cancer Ubisoft Connect/UPlay.

        But unlike the PS3 I don’t like using it. It’s more of a convenient means to play games cheaply since every game was about $10 by the time I bought into it. Even then I probably could justify to myself to upgrade to a PS5 by using my PS4 as collateral.

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    Latter stage, lol

    We hardly have any true PS5 games; this generation is pathetic

    I’m not buying a PS6 until halfway through its lifetime, and only on sale as well.

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      Let’s assume you still were using a PS4, as I don’t think there’s anything yet to only be on the 5, halfway through the PS6 lifecycle, you could get a PS5 and have 90% of the quality, 100% of the games, and 25% of the price of a PS6.

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      I got the PS4 Pro when it came out. There were so many PS4 games at that point that I hadn’t played. All so cheap too. I got the PS5 as I figured there would be so many great games coming to the console. Honestly, the only game that’s PS5 exclusive is the Astro’s Playground.

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    I feel like the PS5 just came out. Damn, the last few years just disappeared. Just kidding, it’s only been out for 2 years. I don’t see something can be at the end of its life when it’s barely even came out.

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      It’s 3 years and 3 months. Not 2 years. And given the mediocre performance it already had when it was released I wouldn’t be surprised if it will have a pretty short life cycle

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          *5 years to make a AAA over the shoulder cinematic experience that has to appeal to investors who dont play video games and the lowest common denominator

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    I’m curious how many people stayed on PS+ after that insane price hike with no benefit for the consumer. I canceled mine mid-way through the news article lol

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      Been on PS+ for 7 years and canceled it immediately when I saw the price hike. Also, not going to buy consoles anymore since they’ve gone to shit.

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    Personal feelings agead: not based in facts.

    Can we really say a “next generation” console is “in its latter stages of life cycle” when people like me have yet to buy a “next generation” console, and have bought every new game for said console?

    I’m not denying it’s got better specs. People always jump all over that, tripping over themselves to “um ackshyully” about how it really is superior in every way making it a “next generation” but come on… If I can get the same or similar experience on “last generation” then is there really enough difference to call it a different generation?

    Take my sister in law vs my me vs my wife. We are all millenials.

    But SIL is start of the millenials, my wife is tail of the millenials, and I’m sitting around the 3/4 mark. We all had differing experiences growing up based on the years we were on our formative years, but we’re all “the same generation”

    My wife’s best friend is a generation below us, but they have far more in common and should really be considered the same generation, IMO.

    I hope I get my point across clear enough for someone to figure it out…

    It just doesn’t really feel “next generation” to me.

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    No surprise. It looks like shit, is massive, costs too much, barely has any (generation) exclusives, and didn’t seem to offer an obviously better experience than PS4 apart from load times. You couldn’t buy one for ages, due to supply issues and scalpers (so many scalpers), but when I finally managed to get one in an online shopping basket I thought about it for a few seconds and realised I didn’t want one anyway.

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      Pc might be more expensive but long term its a better investment. You might need to spend 1200$ or more of your budget allows but it will last longer and you can do more. I guess if you really casually play games a console is good though.

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        What I like about console is the same as why a lot of people like apple: it just works. I have a PC for games that are not on console (eg flight simulator in VR), but for gaming, I just want to be on my couch and turn on the game. No drivers need updating (though game updates are annoying, I can usually delay them, and I can’t mess them up), no “whoops now the sound doesn’t work because I updated something for another game”.

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          PSA: If you have a compatible tv or box you can now use steam link to stream your games from your pc. Works great with the game control for me. Its still in its infancy but it works. Also, playstation does also have updates, some are forced and insanely long, depending on your connection. I‘d say consoles make sense atm for people who have no time or enthusiasm for tinkering. It would help if more people used it though.

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    I’d honestly be pretty upset if Sony decides to ditch PS5 right when the system is starting to hit it’s stride now. I’ve already been playing more PC/Steam Deck compared to my PS5 and Switch.

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      I’ve literally gotten to the point where I’m low on ps4 games and finally decided it’s time for ps5. They better price drop it or I’m gonna skip it altogether if this is the latter half

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        Just buy a PC? The games are hella cheaper.

        You can even use your PS4 controller just like you’re used to.

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          To get a gaming PC comparable to a ps5 would set me back roughly $2-3k, and it’s outdated the moment I get it. I’d still prefer a console that will always run the games I pop in. I have no idea where PC gamers get their computers but a current gen gaming PC where I am costs as much as a car. Building one is not an option, I’m just not the kind of person who can do that.

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            That investment can last you longer than a consoles life span, especially if you can tweak windows and run lower settings or use Linux.

            There’s people still gaming on 1080s

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              So more money for a worse experience? Again that’s why I and so many other will always choose consoles, cause you pop in the game you bought and it works. No need to downgrade it or sitting there troubleshooting for an hour just so you can get it to run. PC gaming is such a huge headache, I always end up returning half the games I buy on steam

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                I have a steam library of over 100 games and I’ve been exclusively gaming on PC since 2014. I can count the amount of times I’ve had trouble playing a game on one hand since then. If you’re refunding half the games you get then your PC is fucked and you’re doing something wrong.

                I’ve also never had to troubleshoot anything but modded games which is to be expected. PC gaming is easier than ever these days.

                That said I fully get why so many people prefer consoles but don’t spread bullshit cause you suck at using a PC buddy.

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                  This. Also, steamlink works great imo so playing on my couch is very much possible now, even on linux.

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              I’m still gaming on a 1080 but even a Deck is so good and it’s $350. Less than a PS5. Maybe it’s because I’m old but graphics have met the point of ‘good enough’ that any increase isn’t all that noticeable.

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    It’s three years old and the performance is fine. Shut up and collect your royalties on the blue-box versions of everyone else’s games.

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    Couldn’t find one when it came out. Covid happened, lost my job. Struggled financially. Finally getting back on my feet. Riding cost of living and inflation eating all my spare cash. Cant afford one now. Sigh. If only they were available at release I would have got one.

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    I just bought one…only because my PS4 died (OG white, RIP). There was nothing on PS5 that ever came out that said “you have to buy this!” I got the original PS4 to play Persona 5 and Final Fantasy XV. I just never was inspired by the design (and I am a sucker for modern design!!!) nor the catalog. I am sure I am not alone.