Oof that’s not a great idea. Protecting sovereignty is a hard enough sell internationally. Selling an invasion isn’t something the international community is really showing an interest in right now.
Exactly. I think long-range strikes on military infrastructure is A-OK but actually expanding the frontline into russia would be a gigantic move, with potentially unpredictable results.
Now that we’re solidly on the same page, I wanted to reply to:
Selling an invasion isn’t something the international community is really showing an interest in right now.
Unless you consider everything that Israel is doing. The international community is apparently perfectly fine with that kind of invasion, being complacent (at best) while thousands of innocent people are killed. Israel can at least offer the disputed claim that Oct. 7 caught them off guard and that hamas must be eliminated (I agree with the latter… fuck hamas), but russia has no ground to stand on for justifying their current attempted genocide. There’s obviously some shady shit happening behind the scenes.
The issue is escalating where Russia feels the need to use nukes. That is a no win for everyone.
If the other option is just letting Russia run continuously unchecked across sovereign nations, then I guess we eat some nukes. However, Russia knows the first nuke they detonate means not even their liege, China, will defend them.
I agree, putin is looking to glorify his accomplishments as “president”. I think the moment he wants to use nukes his ersatz administration will be forced to pull the plug. Hopefully he dies as humiliatingly as all fascists deserve to die.
Oof that’s not a great idea. Protecting sovereignty is a hard enough sell internationally. Selling an invasion isn’t something the international community is really showing an interest in right now.
Exactly. I think long-range strikes on military infrastructure is A-OK but actually expanding the frontline into russia would be a gigantic move, with potentially unpredictable results.
Now that we’re solidly on the same page, I wanted to reply to:
Unless you consider everything that Israel is doing. The international community is apparently perfectly fine with that kind of invasion, being complacent (at best) while thousands of innocent people are killed. Israel can at least offer the disputed claim that Oct. 7 caught them off guard and that hamas must be eliminated (I agree with the latter… fuck hamas), but russia has no ground to stand on for justifying their current attempted genocide. There’s obviously some shady shit happening behind the scenes.
They just mean weapons should be used to strike targets in Russia, not an invasion.
I support striking Russian military targets. I don’t support a ground invasion. So if what your saying is true I agree.
I don’t support a ground invasion either, but then Russia went and invaded and here we are.
They ought to be driven back to Moscow and actually liberate some people living under a dictator.
I’d be happy with pushing the orcs a mile across their border with the threat to push them further if they don’t stop.
Idk man, historically Russians have always put one fascist fuck after another in power. Putin goes, another comes in his place.
Building parking lots out of Russian territory from a distance seems like a great idea
Ukraine is already doing that. Though in a small scale.
The issue is escalating where Russia feels the need to use nukes. That is a no win for everyone.
If the other option is just letting Russia run continuously unchecked across sovereign nations, then I guess we eat some nukes. However, Russia knows the first nuke they detonate means not even their liege, China, will defend them.
Yeah they won’t be using nukes regardless of how the west “escalates”. They can leave Ukraine and end this whenever they want.
I’m not so sure if that. Putin is dying or so the stories go. He may escalate to nuked at some point.
I agree, putin is looking to glorify his accomplishments as “president”. I think the moment he wants to use nukes his ersatz administration will be forced to pull the plug. Hopefully he dies as humiliatingly as all fascists deserve to die.
I’m hoping his people pull the plug. I’m actually surprised they haven’t done it yet.
The average Russian doesn’t want nuclear war anymore than anyone else.
Historically the Russians have showed constraint with nuclear weapons. I hope that continues.
Agreed, the people of Russia deserve better.
I am surprised Putin is still in power.
The coup in the 90’s was very telling about the average Russian. When they didn’t agree. They didn’t do it.
I don’t think the average Russian agrees with invading Ukraine. Yet, he’s still sitting in power.
The rumor is he has cancer but recently he’s looked pretty healthy. I was hoping the rumor would ge true and this would sort itself out.
Stalin was much more powerful and feared than Putin is today. Look up how Stalin died if you want an idea of what is in Putin’s head right now.
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Nukes are a guaranteed lose - lose option. The Russians don’t want to lose.
Hitler ordered the complete destruction of Germany before he was finished. You never know what Putin is going to do.