Best part is when this sucker unscrews from the port and comes off with the cable:
Ugh this stresses me out just thinking about it
Pff. I’ll be fine. I have a Hercules graphics card.
See? No twisty things.
I can still play games, right?
yeah some games
I remember my friend had a computer with a Hercules card back then and he could play like 3 games on it. Everything else required EGA, CGA and later VGA (although I think he had replaced the computer by then).
With mangohud, just in case
Excuse me, I have a 3070 feeding into one of these bad boys.
why??
Poverty homies rise up, also I won’t turn down a free tv. I upcycled a few for extra monitors.
That doesn’t explain why you feed it with a 3070
All 3 HDMI ports are broken. That’s why it was gotten rid of, so I chain adapters with cables I have. Works like a gem. All of my monitors are upcycled. There is so much e-waste because people don’t use adapters.
wow that’s one hell of a dumpster find! even with those ports dead, a 3070 is worth like what, half a kidney?
nice!
hearing this makes me want to visit my local e-waste facility
I used to have to, when the monitor does not have any modern ports, you have to get creative with adapters.
Source: Me with my own 1050ti stuck into an optiplex build and early 2000s monitor because I was broke
That’s one advantage to living in the 21st century: computer “bone yards” and trash-picked parts are stupidly high quality “trash” compared to decades ago.
All I can say is that we are fortunate that the overlap between “VGA ports everywhere” and “battery operated impact drivers” is almost zero on the timeline. Imagine trying to unscrew a VGA plug by hand that was tightened down to ugga-dugga-foot-pounds of torque. Of course that assumes that didn’t shear the screws first.
You know you have given me a wonderful idea, I have a few friends that are in VGA heavy places
“Tightened down to ugga-dugga-foot-pounds of torque” sent me into an absolute gigglefit.
Am I the only one that never tightened them?
I tighten them and it saved my monitor! Robbers broke in to our house, stole a bunch of stuff. The computer monitor was still there, connected to the computer, dangling from the table.
How do I know they tried to steal it? Because they tried to cut through the cable with PAPER SCISSORS, because they didn’t know how to unscrew the cables.
I feel sorry for the dumb robbers. I hope they didn’t pawn it and are still enjoying playing Wii Fitness without the balance board, which they neglected to take with the console.
Oh wow, I didn’t see that coming. Screw-terminal cable connections are now the Manual Transmission of computer parts.
Probably not, there are plenty of people in the world
The actual retro problem was when those tighty boys would start unscrewing the port instead of themselves
You have to tighten the loose one to loosen the tight one. My fingers hurt just looking at it
Amen to this…or just say fuck it and break out the screwdriver
You mean that thing I set down right there but has somehow transitioned into a different dimension?
You also got ADHD?
Absolutely!!
You can only find a screwdriver by first releasing your intent to use it.
you a director yet? that’s gandalf level wisdom
also, both stripped somehow?
Retro problem? I used a DVI connector on my monitor until December last year.
I still do. If it works, it works. Until my video card self-immolates, I’ll keep using it. Damn these modern infants and their cable endings! shakes fist at sky
>.>
DVI-D is basically HDMI with a large connector, so nothing wrong with it
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it’s just thicc HDMI
Yep, you are retro
I still have a DVI monitor connected to my main pc, so it’s not that much of a retro problem for me
I like DVI. I prefer it most of the time.
I like the screw in connector because I don’t have to worry about it falling out of the PC or monitor, and it is more robust, less likely to be pulled/bent/broken.
Unfortunately, even monitor vendors don’t seem to agree that DVI was/is good, and I’ve seen a lot of displays shipping without it recently. GPU makers have entirely gone to displayport/HDMI. It’s the end of an era, as far as I’m concerned.
I’ve switched almost entirely to DP, since I can’t get DVI anything anymore. I don’t hate DP. I like it more than the friction fit HDMI which is prone to pulling itself out of the port for no good reason just as your opponent is about to come around the corner and all you can do is stare at yourself in the black mirror that your monitor has become and listen in horror as fartmaster69420 frags you again, bragging about it and telling you that you suck, and how he does unspeakable things to your mother over VC in his prepubescent voice.
Anyways. I miss DVI.
I’ve never had an HDMI cable fall out of anything.
I’m trying to figure out what this person is doing that would lead to an HDMI cable, or any cable really, getting pulled out of the port on the monitor or the computer while gaming. The only situations i can think of would be more of a hinderance to playing the game than the monitor blanking out, like the laptop or desktop falling off a desk or something.
I was mostly being fatecious for effect/comedy.
But working IT support, I’ve had users complain that their computer doesn’t work, then travel to their location and find the HDMI connection fell out.
I’ve wasted countless hours troubleshooting a plug. It’s a big reason I like the latch on DP and I prefer DVI when possible. No user error with things just getting unplugged.
I use DP for my computer, HDMI for all my TVs, and it works fine. I don’t make it a habit to mess with the cables, for laptops I tend to try to use docks so I’m only plugging in one cable while I’m stationary, and my displays are always connected to the dock.
The example rant I provided had no basis in reality. Just something I came up with because I thought it would be funny. The only point that had any actual real world relevance is the fact that HDMI can become unplugged if not properly seated, or if it’s pulled at all, or if the friction fit is generally loose from wear&tear. That’s all. I’m just trying to be funny beyond that.
Either way, I’m not going to tell you how to live your life; so if you prefer HDMI, that’s fine. You use what you want to use. I’m not about to tell you that your choices are invalid because I don’t prefer it. Your decision doesn’t affect me, so you can do as you wish. I won’t try to change your mind.
Have a good day.
Oh dude, you totally misinterpreted my intent. I’m a DisplayPort only household. I’ve got DP cables going from PCs and docks into KVMs, and from KVMs to way too many monitors, and all of them are DisplayPort with active adapters when necessary. I refuse to buy any cable that isn’t DisplayPort at this point. I guess except for my TV but that shit is in the wall and if rats start tugging on that shit or the TV falls off the wall we got bigger problems.
I was just genuinely confused about the apparent frequency of these cable mishaps, like monitor video cables are as frequently ripped out as n64/psx/ps2 controllers lol.
You obviously don’t use HDMI the same way I’ve seen it used by some people.
I do IT support for a living and I’ve had a non-zero number of tickets where I literally have to go over and plug in someone’s display because they managed to disconnect it.
VGA has outlived DVI… I can buy a new monitor with VGA and get a new VGA cable at almost any store … DVI is hard to find anything but a DVI to VGA adapter
Sad but true.
Would you hate me if I said I think the correct screw in port won… mutters in hating DVI for no good reason
You’re entitled to that opinion. I don’t hate you for it. I would be lying to say I understood.
DVI could operate in three modes, either DVI-A, which was basically just VGA adapted to the DVI connector, DVI-D, which is the primary digital mode, then there was dual link which doubled the bandwidth for the DVI digital mode, allowing higher resolutions and higher refresh rates.
By comparison HDMI can only do a single digital link.
DVI is great IMO.
I am not going to lie, while I appreciate the 3 modes that is the part that I think I ended up hating, not that it could do that but that so many times you would get either a cable or a port that would only accept -a or more often -d made it incredably hard.
I can also appreciate that on paper DVI is amazing and should still be arround, (also Displayport should be more popular than HDMI … HDMI should be the port in the grave) it does not mean I do not have this irrational hatred for DVI that makes no sense at all…
I’ve recently plugged and unplugged a lot of monitors, and the way DP keeps itself attached it with those little claws, and you have to push a button to release it. But when there’s 4 monitors plugged into the same GPU, you can’t access those buttons. The struggle was real.
In comparison the DVI connector just needed a screwdriver
Left side: Unscrews from the standoff. Right side: Unscrews the standoff from the IO plate.
Every time
Every. Fucking. Time.
Video card manufacturers, why u no threadlocker?
I used to use locktite on my stand-offs.
Now there’s an idea.
Every fucking time. Why do I keep buying monitors with a VGA 🤣😭
But seriously, why would you buy a VGA monitot in 2024?
They’re just so cheap at goodwill :(
I got 4 1680x1050 monitors for 5€ each like 5 years ago and they’re still working perfectly fine
Cheap multi monitor setup gang here we go
I wonder if I can get an adapter to mount an old massive CRT to a monitor arm, and if any monitor arm has pistons that can support the thing in the first place.
Get some HDMI to VGA adapters, the kind that screw into the VGA port and then have an HDMI port. I have a bunch of old VGA monitors I use with Raspberry Pis and as test displays when working on PCs and never have to deal with the annoyances of VGA since they’re basically HDMI displays now.
CRTs are highly desirable for retro gaming.
Fighting games and the absolutely lowest possible video latency with the tech available. VGA puts you literally a frame or two ahead of the opponent. For players at their peak, this is a pretty big advantage.
Dont think the best vga monitors will beat current oleds in response times.
Using a gpu that still has vga will be a problem as well.
lol I came across a dvi cable plugged into a crappy old lcd the other day and this is exactly what happened
This happens because the connector is at an angle. Since it’s at an angle, the screw presses against the side and jams itself in place. All you have to do is tilt the connector the other direction and the tight screw loosens right up. Easy peasy.
This would have been really good for me to know about 20 years ago.
i swear every time you think you tighten one of these evenly, they just end up like this!
At least they had screws? I dont trust HDMI or even worse USB-C. Still using VGA monitors with adapters, never broke a single plug.
I sort of miss the screws too but it’s so much better when a cable accidentally gets yanked and it just comes right out instead of transmitting the force into whatever it’s attached to.
Tell that to the USB ports on my laptop.
My display port cable has a clip that you have to press to remove.
Good news, USB-C has two formats with screws: 1 on either side like VGA or 1 on top. Though I’ve never seen them in real life.
do you live ON train tracks? how often is shit just falling out around you? usually a pretty cozy fit on most things imo 🤔
do you like the display port push tab? I feel like many of those are a PITA for real
Hate it. Though there is one that’s worse.
The mini-DP retention clip. There seems to be either wide and narrow variations or simply on-/off-spec variants.
Those clips just jam right in the back plate of the video card.
Why are you using VGA when DVI-D exists? Or Displayport for that matter.
All those new video standards are pointless. VGA supports 1080p at 30Hz just fine, anything more than that is unnecessary. Plus, VGA is easier to implement that HDMI or Displayport, keeping prices down. Not to mention the connector is more durable (well, maybe DVI is comparable in terms of durability)
VGA is analog. You ever look at an analog-connected display next to an identical one that’s connected with HDMI/DP/DVI? Also, a majority of modern systems are running at around 2-4 * 1080p, and that’s hardly unnecessary for someone who spends 8+ hours in front of one or more monitors.
I look at my laptop’s internal display side-by-side with an external VGA monitor at my desk nearly every day. Not exactly a one-to-one comparison, but I wouldn’t say one is noticeably worse than the other. I also used to be under the impression that lack of error correction degrades the image quality, but in reality it just doesn’t seem to be perceptible, at least over short cables with no strong sources of interference.
I think you are speaking on some very different use cases than most people.
Really, what “normal people” use cases are there for a resolution higher than 1080p? It’s perfectly fine for writing code, editing documents, watching movies, etc. If you are able to discern the pixels, it just means you’re sitting too close to your monitor and hurting your eyes. Any higher than 1080p and, at best you don’t notice the difference, at worst you have to use hacks like UI Scaling or non-native resolution to get UI elements to display at a reasonable size.
You had 30Hz when I read your comment. Which is why I said what I said. Still, there’s a lot of benefit for having a higher refresh rate. As far as user comfort goes.
Okay, fair point, sorry for ninja-editing that.
Shaper text for reading more comfortably and viewing photos at nearly full resolution. You don’t have to discern individual pixels to benefit from either of these. And small UI elements like thumbnails can actually show some detail.
Because VGA used to be a standard and all monitors I had lying around are VGA only
Kudos for not just trashing them.
Why should I? Full HD and working well, no reason to do so, new displays are 100€+ which is freaking expensive for that improvement
Because there’s plenty of used monitors to be had out there that have DVI on them in some capacity for very reasonable prices.
For instance I just purchased 4 x 24inch Samsung monitors for $15 USD each.
I’m still waiting for the other shoe to drop on USB-C/Thunderbolt. Don’t get me wrong - I think it’s a massive improvement for standardization and peripheral capability everywhere. But I have a hard-used Thinkpad that’s on and off the charging cable all day, constantly getting tugged in every possible direction. I’m afraid the physical port itself is going to give up long before the rest of the machine does. I’m probably going to need Louis Rossmann level skills to re-solder it when the time comes.
Edit: I’m also wondering if the sudden fragility of peripheral connections (e.g. headphones, classic iPod, USB mini/micro) and the emergence of the RoHS standard (lead-free solder) is not a coincidence.
On my Thinkpad the ports where both soldered to the mobo, unlike some random other USB daughterboard. Really annoying, on my T430 the port is a separate piece and can be easily replaces with a cable.
But no, USB-c is pretty tough for me, when done right. But its still too small for no reason in Laptops.
