I recently set up Sonarr and Radarr on my home server and I’m loving it.
However, I don’t get why you would ever use Lidarr. Why would you ever download music using torrents? You can use tools like spotdl and yt-dlp to download songs from YouTube music and Spotify, it’s faster and more reliable; I have had some issues finding torrents of music from less-known artists.
To me it seems like it would be much better to have a tool like Lidarr or have support in Jellyseerr to download music from common streaming services.
What are your views on this?
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Same reason as usual : the music I like isn’t conveniently available elsewhere I’ve looked to purchase, or available at unreasonable prices that won’t benefit the artist, and I refuse to stream shit. So the high seas it is!
However, I don’t get why you would ever use Lidarr. Why would you ever download music using torrents? You can use tools like
spotdlandyt-dlpto download songs from YouTube music and Spotify, it’s faster and more reliable; I have had some issues finding torrents of music from less-known artists.I make use of deezeloader, deemix and/or streamrip, which is what I use because unlock Spotify deezet, qobuz and tidal (supported by streamrjp) have true lossless flac audio available.
Lidar can be extended to work with them instead of torrents.
I personally don’t see a reason to torrent music when a simple download of a flac or something from yt if I can’t find it anywhere else is usually fine. But I will say I’m more likely to pirate music from large artists/companies because I don’t support large record companies and their shitty practices.
Similar thing goes for things like Vocaloid, UTAU/OPENUTAU, Synthesizer V, DeepVocal, etcetera, songs because the majority of the time the songs I’m listening to don’t have an official download (or a link to a removed file) or way to get it through supporting the person who made them.
$10 a month for the rest of my life seems expensive.
YouTube and Spotify are lossy, and not everything I listen to is available for streaming anyway.
99.9% of the time I just stream, though.
My view is that there are many ways to interact with music, and you should do whatever works for you. I think for a lot of people that means not using torrents because the benefits don’t really match their use cases.
I never bought CDs to begin with because when I was little my dad pirated music and I followed his way. Then when YouTube was getting popular in the 2000s people uploaded music there and I never saw a reason to buy it.
As I kid I would record songs off the radio, and I would copy songs off other cassettes I liked. I did the same when cd’s became a thing and then when internet went to cable/dsl from dial up, that’s when I started downloading shit like it was my job.
if you’re an audiophile you can get flacs and stuff (but tbh I’d rather store my music in opus, flac just seems like a waste of space)
I like the idea of using spotdl and yt-dlp but my eyes gloss over as soon as I see that there is no GUI. Lidarr kinda sucks but it gets me pretty close to what I need. Wish I was more comfy without a GUI but don’t really have the time to get the hang of it. So it goes.
Check out Freetube. Also Newpipe on Android.
There are several frontends available if you search…
Downloading from YouTube or Spotify is still piracy. And those sources offer mostly shit quality far removed from the artist’s intent.
Believe it of not, there are things that aren’t on Spotify, YouTube, TIDAL, Apple Music, Bandcamp, or any streaming service. Sometimes when a streaming service does have a song or album, it’s either not the best quality or only a radio censored version available, even if Spotify claims it’s the explicit version. And that explicit tag feels like a slander because the original intent should be default and the radio edits should be the one’s with the CENSORED tag.
There is great music out there you can’t purchase or stream a digital release of.
There are old and often played CDs in my collection that can’t be ripped properly (by me) for one reason or another.
There are some really high quality vinyl recordings out there, done by people with better hardware and more skill than I. Again, many of these vinyl releases are not available in any other format and are no longer available for purchase anywhere.
The real primary reason I got into it, in the long ago times of Napster, was that I liked to make mixtapes/discs. When radio was no longer playing songs I wanted on those tapes, the wilds of Internet was the answer.
I still regularly support the artists I like as directly as I can: buying albums and merch directly from them at shows or their own websites. And I spend more of that money on more artists and especially less popular artists specifically because of the habits listed above.
On the rare occasion it’s not on Spotify? Because it’s not on Spotify and I wanna hear it.
Piracy for privacy!
YouTube and Spotify don’t have flac or alac filetypes.
IIRC, Spotify added FLAC recently
I see a lot of news of it “coming soon” and leaks, but not an official release. Do you have more info?
Just looked it up, it doesn’t seem to be available yet
This is the only thing I could find on it. Seems it’s still in testing.
Hopefully soon though!
I will be surprised if Spotify won’t announce a new more expensive HIFI subscription with their support for lossless audio. Imo this still makes it less interesting than Tidal/Deezer/Qobuz since it’ll still be impossible to permanently download music from Spotify.
Nonetheless it’s great that Spotify will provide lossless audio for those who want it.
Similar here, but I don’t do google and I hate Spotify lawl. I do download for my collection, but I’ve also subscribed to Apple Music because I don’t wanna fuck around with putting music on my phone, I mostly use my phone for podcasts.
But I just for some headphones that use spatial sound and holy shit is that fantastic. I have like five nice pairs of open-back fancy headphones and now I’m using my probudz all the time because it makes your music sound 4.5D and you can look around if you want and it sounds like you’re at a concert
I’m in the market for fancy headphones. What do you recommend? I mostly listen to flac tracks ripped from CDs and also would use headphones for watching movies from Jellyfin. All done at home.
HEAVILY recommend Sennheiser HD560s.
I love my Grados and other Sennheisers and I’ve tried some others that need amps, but I always come back to my 560s. They’re the best price for performance of all I own. If you’re patient, I got mine for 180USD.
BUDGET? Looove my Grado SR80e. Under a hundred bucks for some REALLY nice sound quality.
These are all open-back, so you’ll get a really good soundstage but they’re not great for loud environments. But damn do they sound good.
Perfect! This is exactly what I was looking for. I’ll pick up a pair of the HD560s when it goes on sale. Thank you so much for the recommendation!
Absolutely! I also love my pair of 599, they’re much less expensive retail but I can really feel the difference in the 560s (weirdly named, the 560s are superior). I think I paid 130 for the 599s.
The 560s have slightly better sound quality but they feel much better to wear for long periods of time. That all said, the sound quality difference is very very small for flacs, so if you find a good deal on 599s and you’re not wearing them for 6-10 hours straight (which I sometimes do) then you can totally save the money.
Both pairs don’t rest on your ears, and they both have ONE cord going to the left ear. My biggest complaints about my beloved Grados is they DO rest on your ears and they have cords going to both ears, which get all wound up and touch my chin/cheek which my ADHD ass does not appreciate the tactile…ness of.
As an aside, my partner isn’t an audiophile and I had them listen to my favorite headphone-testing-song (Tipper’s “Cuckoo”) in flac, with my 560s. I started the song and they’re like “I’ve heard this song before” and by the end their eyes were DRIPPING. I never realized sound could be so… extradimensional, and it really hits goodly.
Quick edit: oh and the Sennheisers have removable cords which can lock in, which is amazing because they come with a shorter cord and a LOOOOOONG cord you can switch out as you like.
It seems there’s a 560 and 560S, and they look very different from each other.
Just to make sure, are you referring to the 560S, or the 560 in plural?
Yeah the 560s sound perfect. I’m very excited now. Thank you!!
If you remember me, please let me know how you like them! And listen to cuckoo.flac and feel the little sizzles that tickle your ears and be like mmmmmm that’s some sizzles
I don’t have internet on the go and they’re killing CDs.
FLAC files - better sound quality
The right Deezer Downloaders have Flac tho
I’ve also had issues with Lidarr not downloading anything - For example, I tried downloading music from the artist
NF- which I don’t think is a particularly niche artist - but Lidarr didn’t download anything. What indexers do you use to download music?I think you basically need a private tracker for lidarr. The arr suite is mostly targeted toward collecting media of a particular quality and will sit on its hands if what it finds doesn’t meet that standard
Music is also not well represented in the public indexers, so it’s not surprising it doesn’t always find what you’re looking for
Personally I don’t download music. I rip my CDs but I do know that some streaming services don’t offer as high quality as CDs hence my comment.
