• JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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    8 days ago

    Don’t let this election, or any election, allow us to forget the time back in nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcers table.

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    9 days ago

    Every depressing political moment gets healed with a bernie meme.
    Wish he had another chance so baaad :'/

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      9 days ago

      We’d just be disappointed again. The right would hate him more than Hillary and corporatist Dems still control the DNC. They wouldn’t let him win.

      OTOH a common opinion I hear is that he probably has more capability for direct lasting change being where he is, and I can see that being true, so there is that bit of small comfort.

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      9 days ago

      No law prevents a convicted felon from running or winning the office of the presidency. As for the question of self-pardons, that’s something that everyone on both sides would hotly debate as it’s never been tested before. You would think there’s an obvious answer (he can’t) but unfortunately laws get fuzzy at the very top and decisions are usually dictated by historic precedent (which there is none for this scenario in US politics.)

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        9 days ago

        It depends on if he’s charged with a federal or state charge, and even if federal, there’s still the question of whether he actually can, which would have to be considered by the courts.

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      9 days ago

      Our Democrats would never let him win, and that’s before you even get to the Republicans. Republican heads might actually explode if we elected a progressive who dared to call themselves a Democratic Socialist.

      Meanwhile, Democrats are also crushed under the thumb of all the money big business pours into bribery lobbying, and they have already made it clear twice that they won’t let him get on the ballot.

      We’ll never get progressive policies or a progressive president unless the progressives infiltrate D to the extent maga has infiltrated R.

    • Liz@midwest.social
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      9 days ago

      Technically no, but it’ll never happen.

      The way the parties nominate candidates for president is an absolute mess, but the nominations aren’t official until the parties hold a closed convention with delegates who vote for candidates to be the nominee. Back in the day these delegates used to actually be the people who decided who got nominated. These days they’re more like a ceremonial role, with a lot of them (I think) being required to vote in line with the way people voted in their state’s primary.

      Anyway, I’d have to look it up to be 100% sure, but I’m pretty sure enough delegates have some kind of autonomy that it’s possible they could nominate someone other than Biden. Who they would end up agreeing on…? Heck if I know.

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        9 days ago

        Yeah. Supreme court ruled that political parties post-2016 are private clubs that can do whatever the fuck they want (Supreme Courts ruling on DNC’s ratfucking of Bernie).

        Afaict from DNC rules , Biden needs to release his delegates for the first rounds of voting; from there it would proceed like any convention prior to 1976.

        Honestly, it would be a great thing for the Democrats to do this. All of a sudden people would really fucking care about the election.

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      9 days ago

      I doubt Bernie himself will but technically it’s not too late. The Democratic national convention hasn’t happened yet and after the debate there’s been a renewed push to pick someone else

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        9 days ago

        he also has a front seat view to this country’s rightward shift and i wonder how frustrating it is to be so close to the levers of power to stop it; but to be blocked both your adversaries and your allies each time you try to reach for them.

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      9 days ago

      This one, and Kai Winn vs Delores Umbridge. I honestly want to see the second scenario more than the first, but that’s just because I’m firmly convinced that Kai Winn would, “My Child,” Umbridge into defeating herself.