I hate that this is the debate we’re having now
I also hate that I’m feeding into the NYT’s lazy and transparent attempt to undo their previous partisanship with new opposite partisanship like those two things cancel out and add up to journalism
But what the hell, if that’s where we’re at, this is a relevant data point about the landscape
I don’t care who the nominee is, I’m voting for them.
I think Sanders just saved Biden’s campaign.
I have my misgivings as well and I was leaning towards replacing Biden. I read the entire op/ed though and Sanders makes a very vehement defense for Biden. If Sanders thinks Biden is the best chance against Trump, then I’m ready to circle the wagons.
It irrelevant at this point. Trump just won.
Nah, calm down.
Jesus fucking Christ…what does it take to prove to Democrats that they are going to fucking lose?
He’s up 8 points before the shooting. That pic of him bloody and pumping his fist is all over EVERYTHING right now.
This election was over in the first 10 minutes of the debate. This is absolute victory at this point, and I think we lose Congress too, in a bad way.
If you’re not freaking out…I don’t know man…I just don’t know.
Good to know you’re easily emotionally manipulated. Just have a listen to the MSM and bam it’s over for you. I honestly don’t know why everyone is saying that this incident means Trump is going to win. He’s a racist, extremist, criminal, dictator wanna be which is exactly why this happened. And it doesn’t change who he is or his plans to tear America to the bones and remake it so he can exploit it for himself.
Americans have the memory of a goldfish, by Nov this will be forgotten, but Trump will continue to be Trump and his ties to Project 2025 and his Agenda 47 and how he wants to use the presidency for revenge and personal gain will continue to be put in the spotlight. As long as the media stops sucking his dick that is.
The election is over. Period…he’s up 8 points, and I’m betting by Monday 12 points.
You understand his base is voting FOR project 2025 and Agenda 47. That’s what they want.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Despite my disagreements with him on particular issues, he has been the most effective president in the modern history of our country and is the strongest candidate to defeat Donald Trump — a demagogue and pathological liar.
The United States should not provide Benjamin Netanyahu’s right-wing extremist government with another nickel as it continues to create one of the worst humanitarian disasters in modern history.
At a time when people were terrified about the future, the president and those of us who supported him in Congress put Americans back to work, provided cash benefits to desperate parents and protected small businesses, hospitals, schools and child care centers.
After decades of talk about our crumbling roads, bridges and water systems, we put more money into rebuilding America’s infrastructure than ever before — which is projected to create millions of well-paying jobs.
At a time when the billionaires have never had it so good and when the United States is experiencing virtually unprecedented income and wealth inequality, over 60 percent of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, real weekly wages for the average worker have not risen in over 50 years, 25 percent of seniors live each year on $15,000 or less, we have a higher rate of childhood poverty than almost any other major country, and housing is becoming more and more unaffordable — among other crises.
If Mr. Biden and his supporters focus on these issues — and refuse to be divided and distracted — the president will rally working families to his side in the industrial Midwest swing states and elsewhere and win the November election.
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I’ll keep saying it: Joe Biden has been the best president of my lifetime. Everything good he did will be undone if Donald Trump wins, and unless the Democrat strategy hugely shifts (up to and including a new candidate) then Donald Trump is nearly certain to win.
~Fuck yeah~ (Edit: I had misread the last part of the comment I was replying to)
If he’s too old and someone else is better, then let’s do someone else. Figure out the plan, rock and roll with it, and get moving. Maybe Biden will or won’t be on board for that but that’s on him at that point.
But this idea that in response to a transparently partisan hit job, Biden is supposed to wander away from the campaign a few seconds before the motorcycle hits the jump-ramp and hope the most incompetent single faction in Washington puts together a last-minute clutch plan for victory - when they JUST DEMONSTRATED that they are gullible to bad ideas being force-fed to them by their enemies, and are in all likelihood going to bumble around trying to nominate Michelle Obama, or suddenly blame the whole mess on Biden for resigning, or whatever the fuck they do, for a while before finally just putting Kamala in place and watching her crash and burn because few of the problems Biden was facing were caused by anything about Biden - is absurd, and Biden is right to laugh it out of the room and continue campaigning.
Figure out an actual plan which you can pitch in all these anguished op-eds, or start trying to poach his delegates to usurp him, or fuckin do SOMETHING other than running around doing your best to lose the election
Biden will lose. This is a critical juncture, just like 2016, and the Dems are going to fuck it up again, and then blame the voters for not voting when they had every opportunity as a party to correct their shit and not put a person who actually can’t form coherent sentences as their candidate.
If this is the best they can do, then the party needs major reforms. They are handing this to Trump.
Who do you think should replace Biden?
I am holding a graph of poll numbers comparing Biden with other Democratic nominees vs Trump, which I plan to send you once you have made your selection
So you’re just straight-up announcing your intention to immediately dismiss any answer you’re given.
No, I am warning them that I plan to show the poll numbers comparing Biden to whoever they select. Dismissing is different from debunking with evidence. But yes, I plan to debunk whatever they say, assuming it’s realistic enough to be found in a list of even some pretty outlandish Democratic possibilities.
Well, you intend to paste a graph that doesn’t take into account that no potential candidate other than Biden has campaigned at all, and that despite Biden’s campaigning, his numbers are still shit.
Moving goalposts is good clean fun, isn’t it? I am finished though. I have chased them around for as long as I wanted to.
You’re taking advantage of a catch-22. No one’s numbers can go up until they campaign, and no one’s gonna campaign unless Biden steps aside.
Bernie can go fuck himself, he sold his soul for a committee chair position.
Or, maybe if someone with an excellent political trackrecord, a good moral compass and way more experience in the matter in gis left toe than you tells you something… it is time for you to listen instead of opening your noise hole.
Yeah, he gave up that good moral compass when he told us all to vote for Biden, the exact same thing that he has rallied against his entire career
I was curious where you were coming from with this… like if you had an actual point you might care to make or you were just being an asshole because you are Very Angry ™ for reasons.
Definitely the latter. Maybe posting here isn’t the best for your mental health.
I’m coming from a place where he talked one thing and ended up siding with the opposite, the very thing that he claimed to be against
Hey, quick question:
- There are 229 accounts in Lemmy that have used the phrase “Democratic Party” more than once in the last 6 months or so.
- There are 188 that have used the phrase “Republican Party” more than once.
- There are 25 that have used the phrase “Democrat Party” more than once
So that does kind of make sense… “Democrat Party” is something I pretty much never hear outside of conservative circles. In most of the left it’s un heard of. It always sounds really weird to me and I don’t think it would ever occur to me to use it. It’s not surprising that it’s so rare to hear it on Lemmy.
So what I’m wondering is why there’s so much overlap between the users who do use that very unusual phrasing and the ones who are SUPER left. Like really left. Like so left that they’re mad at Joe Biden and even Bernie SANDERS isn’t left enough for them, and they want people not to support those people. Because of course they’re not left enough.
Any thoughts on it? You’re on that list, both the using that phrase part and the being super left part. Can you remember where in your reading you might have picked up that phrasing and started using it?
You let your anger own you. I’m sure you can do better.
I’m not angry. I just call out shit when I see it, and I don’t have any form of filters for it
