(inspired by friends’ dating app woes)

  • Walt J. Rimmer@lemmy.world
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    She didn’t just think she was a witch, which I was mostly OK with because religions are weird and stuff, so I thought as long as it doesn’t reach the realm of life-affecting problems, it’s a non-issue.

    She also believed she had friends who were werewolves, she could do magic, the date of your birth determined your personality, because a planet was in retrograde good things were about to happen, vampires started the Red Cross so they could always have access to blood, and, oh yeah, along with her two mortal parents she also had an incubus second father and that she was half-demon and that’s why she liked sex when she wasn’t supposed to.

    That… That girl needed some serious help, but claimed that she was well-adjusted and fit to help other people instead. Because, of course, she was also an empath…

    Edit: I want to make something clear that it suddenly struck me I haven’t; with all this craziness that she believed, that young woman had her life a hell of a lot more together than I did or do. She graduated university while I flunked out, she found a job while I’m being rejected every time that I apply, she found a low-rent apartment to live in while I’m still living with my folks. Don’t get me wrong, girl had some trauma and had some problems. But she was contributing to society while I’m fucking around on the internet because I can’t seem to make anything of myself.

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    Can we go back in time to when this was a sexy body for a man? This is dadbod now. I need the bar lowered back to this so I can have a cheeseburger more often.

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      The folks responsible for the sexy costumes, Roddenberry and Theiss, died in 1991 and 1992, respectively.

      See also: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheissTitillationTheory

      The sexiness of an outfit is directly proportional to the perceived possibility that a vital piece of it might fall off.

      This basic theory underwrites Stripperiffic clothing, Impossibly Cool Clothes, and pretty much anything else you stick characters into: what makes clothing sexy is the potential for a catastrophic Wardrobe Malfunction. The Trope Namer is William Ware Theiss, costume designer on Star Trek: The Original Series, who first codified the concept.

      Though Theiss was a costume designer, according to Inside Star Trek: The Real Story by Herb Solow and Robert Justman, most of the costumes — following this theory — were actually somewhat more modest before being “improved” by Gene Roddenberry.

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    That’s a day negative 10 deal breaker. I can be casual friends with a “witch”, but being in a relationship means I have to pretend I believe that stuff, and no one can keep up an act that long.

    It’s as fake as any religion. I mean it is kinda one, I think. I have very little awareness of it, I’m pretty sure witches and wiccans are different, but it’s all beyond baloney, so I don’t really care about the subtleties.

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      I mean… You don’t have to believe someone else’s beliefs to be in a relationship with them. It happens all the time. I work with a “witch” and she’s like every other normal religious person. Wears a necklace, has a thing on her door, goes to work…

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      You don’t have to pretend anything, I know quite a few couples where one partner is an atheist and the other one is a believer.

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            If you want to believe that belief in external reality to your senses requires a similar leap of faith that belief in unprovably extant supreme beings requires that’s fine, but that’s not what the word atheist means. That’s not how people use it. They don’t use it to refer to people who refuse to believe in things requiring faith (as in believing in something that can’t be proven). It is used to refer to people who don’t believe in gods.

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              Reality is god to realists. That’s what they believe in. They worship it, they obey it, they demand others have the same respect for it. It’s theism.

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    Well I guess it depends on if they were calling themselves a witch because they’re Wiccan, or if it was genuine delusion

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      It’s all of a kind to me whether someone is into crystals or crucifixes. Honestly, I prefer the crystals folks. They’re less likely to actively and vocally prefer my non-existence. But to be honest, I really don’t see a difference between casting a spell to get a job and praying to jesus to get a job. The more it becomes a major focus of one’s existence, the more problematic it is, but I suspect that both numerically and by percentage, there are fewer fundamentalists on the witchy side.

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          That’s a fair point, although I do think they ceded first place in the past couple of years. Unvaccinated adults are now three times more likely to be republican than not. They’re not only numerically outnumbering the new agers, they’re anti-vaxxing from the halls of government and via mass media, as opposed to facebook moms in suburban california who also sell essential oils.

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        I’d also consider myself a humanist. While I’d prefer to not use such condescending language, that’s nearly exactly how I look at it. Wicca and Paganism are religions like any other in regards to spiritualism, and can be subject to the same types of fanaticism. Personally, I really like Wiccans and Pagans. I vibe well with their leftist tendencies

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          Maybe my gauge is calibrated differently, but I wasn’t trying to be condescending. At most, I thought a christian might consider it condescending because their mainstream religion was being compared to a fashionable new age fancy at best.

          Christians - some of them - think that the existence of Aquinas means that their religion is intellectual at its core, wh i in their minds renders paganism mere cosplay. I’ve had exactly that argument made to me.

          In any case, that was just a benign musing. When I condescend to condescend, it’s ridiculously obvious. Apologies for any offense - it was friendly fire.

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            Is paganism not just cosplay? There’s no continuity of tradition for pagan religions, they just picked it up because it was cool a few decades ago.

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          The ones I interacted with seemed more to the right in my opinion, but maybe I am too far left already?

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            They tend towards the left, but that’s not always the case for every individual. The ones I know are anti-capitalist, but I’m positive that there are liberal Pagans too

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            I feel like a lot of people on Lemmy suffer from this issue: they see things as right-wing just because their POV is decidedly left. I know the basic left-right spectrum is too simple, but we do need to recognize politics is relative and that just because you are further one direction than someone else doesn’t invalidate the fact that by common standards they are on that sane side of the spectrum.

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              Well, there are other things too. Like how you are with feminism for example : do you see women as naturally caring and emotional and men as naturally strong and violent and providing? That’s hard right for me. And sometimes the pagan things are about some kind of empowerment or attempt at progress that falls flat into conservative or reactionary ideology.

              The most difficult though is about liberals. It depends on where you live obviously. But they tend to consider them center, or even left if they are progressive in any way. Yet I will never consider individualism a progressive ideology anymore.

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          Well, to be fair quantum physics has scientifically proven that to witness something is to change it. So something spooky is going to be part of the human condition. Trying to define the changes that occur when we observe things is a kind of magic. In my humble opinion

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            So there isn’t anything spooky going on there it’s just that viewing particles involves bouncing photons which of course impacts the particles you’re viewing. Measuring is changing. It’s like if in order to measure mass you had to burn a thing (kind of like how we measure calories), in that case measuring it changes it. Nothing spooky, just an inherently destructive measurement process

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        It’s a spectrum, Wicca is somewhere between believing in the healing power of certain plants (certainly true) and full on “I can make spells that can hurt you because I watched The Craft.”

        I recently went to a “Witchcraft Fair” and there were so many people from every little niche thing. Tarot readers, crystal girls, candle spells and intention prayers, sex magic, literally dozens of different specific ways people did their thing.

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          Is the “healing power of certain plants” about how like yarrow contains a natural antibiotic and you can chew it and put it on a wound if you don’t have access to first aid … Or about how overpriced arnica salve will cure your bad feelings?

          Certain plants really do have healing powers, but in my experience every time someone is talking about it they’re just trying to sell snake oil.

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        Most reasonable people have decided that everyone gets to have an unsubstantiated belief system that goes into the “Religion” slot and it’s not a big deal as long as no one makes it a Big Deal. Reasonable people have decided this because trying to proactively eliminate it is way harder and god-awful than just letting it ride (once again, as long as no one makes it a Big Deal).

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    They better hurry up and remake this so Lady Gaga can get the part.

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      I couldn’t possibly pretend to respect someone that thinks they can do magic and is almost certainly into homeopathy and astrology for very long, but you do you.

      Now, the girls who are like “I just want to make conservative Christians mad,” that’s something to explore.