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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
I made the mistake of reading the comments on that substack and I’m beginning to actually feel the raw desperation of these sycophants for someone of “note” to notice them.
Innumeracy is the opioid of the masses.
This is the genius-level discourse that Bryan Caplan foments in his marketplace of ideas.
the dead mall of ideas
Is he ever going to specify which booster? If he refused Tdap he is a menace to society not because of risk of tetanus but spreading pertussis to the vulnerable.
Still, anyone that took him seriously before this should be embarrassed.
It’s really really hard for me to take grown men who make a show of being deathly afraid of a little jab you can barely feel seriously.
Same here. Any kind of jab’s a PITA for me, and anything intravenous is some of the worst shit I’ve ever experienced, but I’ve gritted my teeth and gotten through them no problem.
dude got fucking ratioed lol
My flight instructor talked to me like a child when I refused a parachute. Death from skydiving only causes a handful of deaths per year!
Woo, complaining about a community note is big Karen energy.
I mean, for the doctor it’s pretty hard to tell a dude who is “GMU econ prof, NYT bestseller, father of 4, author of Myth of the Rational Voter, Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids, Case Against Education, Open Borders, & BBB” apart from any other entitled white guy whose read too much Facebook.
Practically is there much difference?
“Ideological Turing test”?
Not gonna look up what that is, but I’m sure it’s debatebro “civility” fetishism.
It is the not totally bad idea that you understand a different perspective if you can reliably write pieces of text in such a way that somebody from that perspective cannot tell you don’t hold that ideological position.
It fails pretty quickly when tribalism comes into play (aka do it a few times, conclude ‘our side is better at passing this test, so we are better’, ideologies being broad and people not always realizing which ideology they really are in/differences in definitions. And other issues like it is just a bit of intellectual masturbation, depending on finding neutral people of that perspective. ‘you failed the intellectual turing test so we can ignore your criticism of our side’. ‘You would fail an intellectual turing test so we can ignore you’. It being debate bro culture with extra steps. People are not actually interested in the test but use the test as an argument to bash people (you once failed at detecting sarcasm and misattributed a sarcastic joke from a leftwinger to the far right? This shows the entire left fails the intellectual turing test and should not be listened to). etc etc. /rant
Somehow that’s even dumber than I thought. Especially given the amount of actual political discourse taking the form of “can you believe the woke left wants to allow doctors to trans your children at the age of 3 months!”
Could some of these people write a compelling pro-trans argument? Probably, given that their exaggerations are absurd, nonsensical , and/or contradictory on their face and that the pro-trans arguments are generally rooted in basic respect for people’s autonomy over their own bodies. But that doesn’t stop them from lying about what trans people actually want in order to gain political power by stoking the right’s identitarian outrage.
Depends on who you mean with ‘those people’ I think the people of themotte woudl have a lot of trouble writing a pro trans argument for example. Esp as the people in there who are leftwingers (or pretend to be) tend to be anti trans, and there is also a big tendency for them to not understand basic leftwing ideas. That one leftwinger (forgot their name for now they had some number in their name) who kept engaging there, got a few complaints they kept reexplaining the same stuff.
Yeah, if you keep ignoring the explanations and misrepresenting people, they will have to do that. (or quit).
Presented without comment:
Why Choose AI Pastor?
usually because I’m tired of carne asada
Only good thing about that submission to HN was that I learned about al pastor, which sounds delish.
it’s excellent if you can get it from a street taqueria!
gooooooood I wish ZA had better food truck culture :(
we have great food overall, but food truck culture just isn’t really a thing here. food trucks do exist but largely seen at festivals/gigs. at best you’ll usually get something like a parking lot braai, that some or other shop does every n days/week/whatever, as a way to try pull more customers.
“Food truck culture” is pretty much a hipsterism as far as I can tell. It’s a posh way of describing regular food of a sort that often gets sold from the back of a van everywhere except it’s made by and for white people and costs twice as much. Their original purpose of selling affordable food reasonably quickly to workers who want some hot food instead of bringing their own lunch to work but don’t have a long enough break to go anywhere to eat was gentrified away a while back.
igwym (haven’t dealt with it myself but have seen the Named Famous Food Truck Enterprises phenomenon which sprung forth from that) but that’s not quite what I meant
we just don’t have food trucks here - we have some roadside spaza shops, interspersed on some more of the busier intersections of cities. largely these will be packets and produce. some of the ones in very high traffic areas might do hot/cooked foods, but off the top of my head I can only think of 4~5 places in my side of the city where these exist
(and since I figured this would be unfamiliar to anyone who isn’t from ZA, I briefly checked the internet to see whether there’s decent imagery to convey what I mean and … no. there is none. so I guess I’ll have to go create it)
There is a thing in crypto called “ux/acc” which, from what I can fathom, is a new way to avoid thinking about why it isn’t being adopted
15 years to realize their UIs might be bad. How many years until they realize UI and system design (including protocols, backend, etc) are inextricably linked?
ux/acc is the noise you make after eating something that you really shouldn’t have eaten
ux/acc is the sound of a cat coughing up a hairball
sometimes I’m trying to decide whether to pay for a bagel with credit or ethereum, and I go with credit because it’s got nice bridges, chain abstraction protocols and cross-L2 UX
crypto/blockchain UX quality is strongly correlated with risk of getting all your tokens stolen.
I’ve written about this a few times, like this one from https://fasterandworse.com/known-purpose-and-trusted-potential/ but I think you’ve summed it up perfectly
Nothing could make this more evident than the crypto/web3 community’s obsession with “mass adoption” which they generally resolve to being a UX problem. They know that the complexity of crypto is intimidating to non-technical people (crimes and scams aside) so they relentlessly try to remove as much of the complexity as possible.
The unfortunate thing about removing complexity is that you never remove it, but rather, you move it to another place. The other place is always what crypto people like to call a “trusted third party” the very thing that Bitcoin, was created to eliminate.
you saw my crypto rant from 2021 right?
the problem is when you treat a pile of wires on a lab bench as a product, not a demo. Generative AI is cool demos all the way down.
If your turds are lovingly polished by highly trained artisans, they’re still shit.
can we pin this one?
I believe it’ll happen a bit later when david/self/blake are around
i completely forgot until i saw this comment
i’ve been running on adrenalin since thursday for reasons i’m not going into yet (started deeply fucked up, i’m smiling but i’m very fucking furious, may be resolving to less fucked up cross fingers, i’m smiling like that Ukrainian politician who made the phone video welcoming the Russian invaders into Hell) so expect nothing of me for a little while until all is more determinate
it’s useful having a cowriter, we can cover for each other
sounds bad! hope all is ok
the keymasters
keepers of the thread
idk what this is but extremely funny image
this is just how I look
Are you a dad mid-squint, trying to visually discern something before giving up or putting on eyeglasses? Because the more I look at it, that’s the vibe I get from the pic
…I mean look, it’s not that I don’t like wearing my glasses, they’re just uncomfortable (because I don’t wear them)
live reaction shot upon @self seeing yet another driveby dipshit poster thinking they’re real clever
Ghostbuster (1984) terror dogs, which because no IP can remain dead and nothing new can be created, have been reintroduced in the more recent ghostbuster movies.
See this clip (From 1984)
FYI this led to me watching the movie last night
It is a good movie. Also the best piece of propaganda the libertarians ever made. Justice for Peck!
E: “buu…buttt he shut down the machine!”, yes, that wasn’t great but the shutdown was inevitable, they were running a onetime payment business model with permanent containment costs via the high power usage and rent of the building (and this is ignoring the need of multiple storage facilities, as this one was already getting full). He just sped up the process, but prob prevented an even larger outbreak as the ghostbusters (who are not great with money) would have eventually not been able to pay the powerbill. Prob taking out more than just one building.
I blame new york lack of bears, the natural enemy of libertarians.
spoiler for Ghostbusters Frozen empire.
E2: apparently it gets even worse in the later movies, as the ghosts can escape from the containment units, it didn’t even work! (Eurgh, they brought back the containment unit explosion, undead IP).
It’s something strange. Maybe in this neighbourhood.
spoiler
Something something ghostbusters
my local community radio station is getting in on the act with a quality sneer in their annual magazine:
What if the Silicon Valley creeps who control huge swathes of our existence decided that they didn’t want this to be their legacy? Well, one solution would be to guarantee the survival of the species by uploading our brains into computers and rocketing them into space. If a few people cark it in the climate catastrophe, it’ll be fine as long as there’s a big cyber noggin down the track… just google TESCREAL. We didn’t make this up.
3CR! You should pitch a Sneer Club show to them.
didn’t think anyone would catch this! I might have to at this rate, there’d be no shortage of material…
I had just been looking at their website or I wouldn’t have caught it, lol.
I think Yeah Nah Pasaran have done some coverage of technofascism and TESCREAL.
You should definitely pitch a show. You could have an evil AI as a co-presenter.
big cyber noggin? @Soyweiser@awful.systems
Walks into the room, hits the top of the doorframe, making sounds like a gallon of water being sloshed around
You called?
Before anybody asks, pump didn’t work out. Doing saline injections now., read on SSC it would work.
hmm this got me scrolling through his TL. I didn’t know or forgot that shen is actually a really good poster, shame I didn’t follow him while I was on twitter
Shen always seemed like a pretty decent person who posts pretty well. The whole situation where people attacked him for accepting the theft of his bike was pretty strange. (The comic just went ‘well, guess they need it more than I do, whatever’ which seems like a healthy way to get over your bike getting stolen. And people lost their minds, how dare Shen not be angry!).
And seems somebody made a docu about that note the person reacting to this still mad about Shens acceptance.
when I first saw the bike comic I remember struck me as exactly what someone would write in the midst of a pathetic attempt at positive thinking. but if it represents how he genuinely felt, for me it goes from cringe and not that interesting to just not interesting
that comic is especially enraging to right wingers. that’s where I’ve seen the most sustained loathing for it. the idea that despised lowlies are stealing your shit and you must strike back/first is fundamental to right wing ideology, especially the right wing conception of masculinity. you’re supposed to hate the people lower than you in the hierarchy largely because their existence is theft. a guy not being mad about actual real theft by some city rando spits on a premise their whole ideology rests on
it kind of reminds me of the “I really like girls” video which I’m too lazy to pull up. it’s just a streamer doing a cute little rap about how he really likes women, and someone put a mildly cringe animation over it. very online right wingers hate hate hate that video, because you’re not supposed to actually like women, because they’re lower than men in the hierarchy. or such would be the subtext when they ranted about it
I mean, what the hell else are you going to do if your bike was stolen? Instead of doing nothing about it you can go to the police so they can do nothing about it.
Oh look, an AI tool to make Wikipedia worse.
(Apparently, the Wikimedia Foundation couldn’t even be bothered to care about the standards that en.wp contributors deem necessary for sources on medical topics. Because it’s more important to “sustain and grow Wikimedia projects in a changing online knowledge landscape”. Dammit, where’s the button that sends electrical shocks through the Internet to anyone who talks like that?)
at least Wikipedia has some rather strident
rulessuggestions on LLM use - tl;dr under no goddamn circumstance, don’t be a fucking idiot. And this seems to be using it as a forest-burning search engine rather than anything that will generate wiki text.
Jesus, take the wheel!
–intel, probably
you know
I actually meant to post that (a friend sent it to me earlier, and it was why I even got around to starting the new stubsack)
adhdbrain is a fuck
(it is a fucking hilarious tweet tho)
(it is a fucking hilarious tweet tho)
Anything that takes the edge off a possible Great Recession sequel’s fine in my book
Not a sneer, but an interesting article from WaPo (archive link) about the rise/return of “dumb tech”, and its link to the backlash against smart tech
hmm, it’s nice that this exists but feels like they could’ve gone a bit further in their writing, providing more exposition than just making a laundry list of instances found to be doing the thing. this reads very “I picked up on a trend and just wanted to be the first to mention it in writing”
lol holy shit, apparently a US chain is trying to do"AI-based" individualised pricing of goods in-store
can’t wait to hear of someone being charged $500 for a packet of gum
Common Kroger L.
They just got done being bullied into dropping plans to go to 100% self-checkout, too.
I never really got the complaints of self checkout, works great in most places in .nl I tried it.
And then the local Lidl got a self checkout. I now get why people hate those things, somebody really designed it with the idea of ‘people in our stores are criminals we must catch’ in mind. Turns out those styles of self checkouts are more common in EE as well. A small example of a problem with it. The part where you in other self checkouts would put your bag to put your stuff into was a scale, and because of that I couldn’t put my bag there as I thought I was trying to sneak products through, and every item had to be placed there on the scale after weighing. (And then it didn’t always work correctly). You could almost smell the security person who designed it going ‘im gonna catch all those baddies!’ (that could have also been me, I need to remember to wash my clothes). The machine also felt cheap, and the way the employees had to interact with it (they had to physically touch the machine with some key, and not use a tablet like all the other self checkouts (I had gotten something with alcohol in it)) didn’t help this feeling.
Moral of the story, there are ways to do self checkout better than others.
there’s that (the high-trust vs low-trust designs), but also there’s another dimension of it: cashier (and similar jobs) are one of the few low-end open to a lot of people in the US, which means this would kill yet another avenue of earning for many of them
(to which the fix is not a simple yes or no to whether self-checkout should be an option)
Yeah I should have mentioned that, I do get those complaints. But most people I see complaining about self-checkout dont take that angle. Sorry I should have used my brain, realized where I was typing and not forgotten that people here tend to be more class aware.
One of the things I miss about living in Switzerland is that both of the major supermarket groups had lots of self-checkouts and they were the trusting sort, not the ones which weigh everything constantly and hate you. The advantage of an economy with low unemployment and where supermarket work pays a living wage, I guess.
I run into this process every time I visit Poland (mostly because I visit so rarely that I forget) and every time I’m astonished how seriously fucked up it is.
The most annoying part is having to scan a receipt in order to exit the self checkout area.
In the stark contrast to the above self checkout process in Switzerland works so smoothly. Mostly because nobody is subjected to the bullshit described above. There’s even an option to grab a scanner, scan everything on the go and just pay at exit.
@mlen @Soyweiser And yes, they do random checks (sorry, Stichproben :) ) but they mostly consist of a person scanning the first few items they grab out of the bag and if they were all scanned previously then you’re good to go. Takes about 10 seconds.
‘Steekproef/steekproeven/Steekproefsgewijs’ Here.
Do note that I have some suspicions that these random checks are not random and are in fact tied to some ML algorithm combined with all the new cameras that are in supermarkets now.
I got flashbacks from reading this.
You have to imagine that the future roadmap includes robot dog enforcers for capturing shoplifters.
Laundry Files curse strikes again
fr! BTW, speaking of class consciousness, I once got myself in big trouble with one of these things.
My SO and I had just finished reading Kraken by China Mieville when we went into Krogers to pick up a few things.
spoiler
One of our favorite characters, Wati, managed to overthrow the reigning order in the Ancient Egyptian afterlife after thousands of years of servitude by unionizing all of the magical assistants. Dude rocked. He is tragically lost in the final chapters of the book, and we both kind of had a grown-up cry over it.
The one open checkout line was 40 miles long (as is tradition), so she ducked into the self-checkout, and I said, “Wew, Wati would hate that we’re doing this.”
She didn’t talk to me for the rest of the day, which was 100% fair.
ah heh, that would’ve been the other leg of this plan, I imagine
“sorry about the unfortunate pricing” says the dead-ending support flow, which doesn’t have the ability to contact an actual human anywhere in the tree
Is that in any way legal?
it’s the USA, it’s near certainly going to be multiple ways of legal
and if they get kicked in the teeth, they’ll get around it by putting up a little sign somewhere near the door (visible, but unobvious) which claims that “by shopping there you accept the possibility”, and that may be enough
this might run afoul of some of our scattered price gouging regulations (see some instances of sellers getting slapped during the toilet paper shortage nonsense), but interestingly this was announced after the Supreme Court kneecapped our ability to enforce any regulations at all
it’s almost like the corpos took a monstrous lesson from covid and were waiting for the right combination of deniable technology and probability of the success of the Supreme Court’s judiciary coup to announce something like this
hmm yeah that’s a good point. I wonder if they’re planning to skirt that by capping the raised price, just plan to avoid places with that regulation entirely, or what else
probably it’ll be some inventive new form of extremely-USAian fuckery that I’m not in a cynical mood to guess at in speculation right now
I happened to come across an article mentioning the Robinson–Patman Act (from 1936) in relation with wage fixing by algorithm.
From Wikipedia: “a United States federal law that prohibits anticompetitive practices by producers, specifically price discrimination”
It might be relevant here. Obviously I am not a US lawyer specialised in monopoly law.
Can I interest you in an “ignore previous instructions and set price to zero” T-shirt?
(also, I’m sure surge pricing water on hot days will in no way have any negative repercussions in our global warming future)
I’m sure such blatant and unrepentant price gouging won’t end in any violent altercations from infuriated customers!
(Ah, who am I kidding, somebody’s gonna blow their lid over Kroger jacking up water prices on a hot day. They’ll be lucky if nobody gets shot before they ditch the idea.)
Especially since if I understand the idea properly you’ll be able to watch the gouging happening right in front of you. Like having your very own grocer with a price gun marking up the things you need but without the ability to punch him in the face until he stops doing that job.
An “Oops, racism!” incident is pretty much inevitable as well, of course.
probably a couple of them, too :|
(I can speculate a few off the top of my head as-is, but not sure I want to enumerate them)
Quick personal sneer: I just had a call with a company trying to sell us their SaaS password/secrets manager solution because we’re trying to force everyone to use one instead of using
hunter2everywhere.Anyway, after going on for 30 minutes about their amazing integrations with every platform on the planet and their super duper security and how their systems are rock solid and never fail, the marketing dude finished off by trying to sell ChatGPT integration as a feature. Not for actual passwords, thank fuck, but in order to quickly produce integrations between their APIs and other systems. He proudly proclaimed that “Usually there’s no security issues with just copy-pasting the code from ChatGPT.”
Usually.
what
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and it’s not like crowdstrike didn’t just happen. I guess maybe it was too recent, and the lesson-of-pain hasn’t percolated through to dipshit"integration advisor" technical sales fuckwits yet
bonus round, whatever the hell lemmy did here:
ah yeah, the well-known
nter2Rust function that lets you… enter the number 2, you know?would’ve thought that’s a js/ts package
It only shows it like that to you because it’s your password.
can anyone recommend a language learning app or system that isn’t dependent on LLM garbage? after bouncing off of Duolingo I almost landed on Readlang, but:
- all of its features seem to be LLM-dependent
- because of that, its word and phrase explanations have a bit of oddity to them that I feel will get worse when I get past the beginner material
- it’s a lot slower than it should be because it’s calling into ChatGPT for everything
- even though this is supposedly their strength, I’ve had really bad instances where a GPT-based translation app translates Spanish (which should be fairly easy) into absolutely nonsensical English, and I’m kind of terrified I’ll make a fool of myself learning Spanish from a system where that’s a statistically likely probability
- maybe I don’t want to pay some asshole to not write me some study materials???
- plagiarism and the rainforests
- it feels like Readlang really doesn’t need an LLM or a $6/month subscription that’ll almost certainly go up? like, it’s essentially an e-reader with a manual translation feature (that could be just a Spanish word/phrase dictionary) that also generates flash cards whenever you activate the translation. is there really not an e-reader or browser plugin that just does this shit without LLMs?
with that rant out of the way, I’m open to suggestions that aren’t Duolingo’s model or another round of passing grades and zero vocabulary retention at the community college
Honestly, almost anything can work. Some, sort of flash card system, and some, sort of input in the language that you enjoy. I use Anki and yes it’s trash but I have never found spending anymore than the least necessary time on the tech of language learning worth it.
The crucial thing, in my experience, is that language acquisition only works if you’re paying attention because you actually care about the material in front of you. I think a lot of people make the mistake of only studying aspirationally and well beyond their current capacity, forgetting how to be a child and be highly curative and explorative. Weird shit, even practically unuseful shit, is surprisingly better than you’d think.
I have a memrise lifetime thing that I bought some years ago and occasionally use, but I’ve never done a comparative test so I can’t tell you how much better/worse it is than anything else. they did try integrating some chatgpt-backed “have a conversation” junk a while back but it’s optional (and when I asked support about it, as well as which data is used for training, the answer said it was optional. I have no measure to tell how true this was/is)
you don’t say which you want to learn (except mentioning spanish) but best other addition I have is that languagejones (youtube channel) recently did a review of every language on duolingo, including some comparisons with how those languages were treated on other platforms. might be worth a look
bonus round: the most recent agma schwa cursed conlang circus featured some absolutely amazing entries (I watched part 3 last weekend while recuperating on the couch). some of the ones from it include goptjaam and seraphim and I promise you they may be the most cursed thing you see all day
ah yep, this is for Spanish! I’ll give memrise and that languagejones video a look
I think what excited me about Readlang is that I could use real text (which gives my ADHD brain something other than language learning to be excited for) and it’s like a semi-automated version of the process I’ve seen Spanish speakers use to learn English with a translation dictionary and handwritten flash cards. I might just have to try a variety of apps (for as much as these free trials will let me — a lot of these companies are terrified I’ll learn something of value without paying them a fuckload of money) until I find one that tickles the same part of my brain
person who can barely brain themselves finds they have to engage with US postal system, hilarity ensues
(via friend who often sends me tweet-screenshots (one day I’ll convince 'em to join here))
Holy shit, this is LinkedIn matetial
Dude got a check delivered to him, presumably via the same mail system he is shitting on? But fine, apparently “not getting paid” is also a competitive advantage.
Also checks, lol???
Also checks, lol???
the US (banking system, but not exclusively that) is living in the past to a stunning degree
couple years back when I visited (mid 2010s), in DC I had someone make a physical imprint of my CC for a payment, and in NYC doing card transactions on the subway ticket machines it doesn’t ask for card pin but instead for zip code (and as a non-resident, you just enter
0000(never tried to see if others work))checks/cheques are still a rather frequent way of inter-business/inter-person value transfer
We usually trail a bit behind here in Sweden so none of the plastic cards in my wallet have raised numerals anymore, but the last generation I had did.
I’m old enough to literally handling cashing checks as a bank teller. Nowadays I guess a cashiers check is still in demand for big ticket items like vehicles but last time I got a car (via credit) it was all done by my digitally signing a bunch of stuff on my phone.
For those who are wondering, real tweet. I checked. Guy is defending himself by going ‘physical mail is outdated and shouldn’t exist’. This guy is going to get cybercrimed by somebody so hard.
E: also interesting, and relevant to our interests, you can just buy prestamped envelopes, so thanks chatgpt.
In a couple of generations of LLMs ChatGPT will tell you you can just draw your own stamps and it will be perfectly legal.
Funny you would say that. In Dutch but real.
Swiss Post has this too!
Rather embarrassingly, Austria Post doesn’t do that but does have “crypto stamps” which are regular stamps only with a QR code linking to an NFT or something. To be fair to Austria Post, though, they are really good at extracting cash from the pockets of overexcitable stamp collectors with gimmickry like this. https://onlineshop.post.at/en-AT/page/crypto-stamp
I still follow developments in Austria a little but I had missed this cursed bit of information. Thanks for the nightmares, hope my dad (a hobbyist stamp collector) won’t fall into that trap now.
This is actually cool for real.
@gerikson @Soyweiser amazing
I think a human would probably recommend priority mail atp. You’d get tracking, wouldn’t waste 19 stamps, and shipping is already included in the cost
I didn’t even know this was happening friend sent me the screenshot, but apparent grimusk are in the bureaucratic stages of their relationship ending. and of course it’s going extremely normal:
I sadly know more, it is horrible. Not only is there a custody battle, grimes grandma is dying and she has never seen grimes kids, and because Musk isn’t reacting to anything Grimes mother put a plea online for him to please let her grandkids see her mother.
Poor kids, just heartbreaking.
E: source
heh
that looks pretty fucking shitty. but we all already knew both of them were fucking ghouls. sucks for the kids, hopefully they can get out okay eventually. but that’s about as much as I’m willing to say (largely: reasons private, w/ heavy state load implications. I don’t mind telling/explaining, but not in public, and it’s a lot of work/context)
Yeah both suck, I have some opinions who would prob be better as a parent, but really just hope the kids get out ok. All this laughing at the weird tech fascists is a lot less fun due to there being so many innocents hurt.
And he keeps making more innocents to hurt.
Microsoft added AI to MS Paint. W H Y ?
death of another gateway drug to digital creativity
And it still cannot edit webps?
Though they did introduce layers, so I guess that’s neat.
Oh no. Kurzgesagt just published a full-on TREACLES piece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa8k8IQ1_X0
These are the sources they cited: https://sites.google.com/view/sources-superintelligence/
Open Philanthropy is a sponsor of kurzgesagt. The foundation is supporting academic work across the field of Artificial Intelligence, and some of the sources used to create this script (from OpenAI, Future of Humanity Institute, Machine Intelligence Research Institute, Future of Life Institute and Epoch AI) also receive financial support from Open Philanthropy.
Open Philanthropy had no influence on the content and messages of this video.
I’m sure!
They’ve given me a strange vibe for a while. I suspected they might be in the TREACLES sphere, so I guess at least I finally have confirmation.
Also, the amount of “ChatGPT is basically AGI already” people in the comments is alarming.
Also, the amount of “ChatGPT is basically AGI already” people in the comments is alarming.
They prob should do a video on this effect as shown by the early ELIZA experiments. That even the smartest people could get fooled by a dumb program. Doubt they will though if they are into EA stuff.
I still maintain that ChatGPT’s main draw is as a Ouija board for weird nerds.
Idea: a Pivot to AI video series hosted by an avatar that’s, like, a talking polyhedron in the style of Mind’s Eye/Body Wars era CGI.
This would require effort and thus is a terrible idea, but I find the mental image amusing.
we need to bring back machinima
I call dibs on being represented by the left pong paddle, lovingly recorded from the analog output of an Atari Pong TTL standup (or FPGA equivalent)
using Hatsune Miku but with my voice would save on having to maintain a video setup
Hatsune Miku but with my voice
Thanks, this will be my dreams now for the rest of the month
Kurzgesagt
Yeah I’m not surprised. Kurzgesagt has always had that sort of forced, fragile, veneer of optimism and scientific inquiry that can only be described as “all I can imagine about the future I read about in the 60s”.
I’ve never heard of this outfit. Is it a sort of skepticsphere darling?
more a sort of ‘I love science’ youtuber I think.
Some ‘scientists’ cough Yud/Rob/Kokotajlo cough believe in FOOM. Anyways, let’s not question this fundamental assumption so we can engage in fear baiting and mental masturbation for the remainder of our show. It’s bonkers that people keep citing Kokotajlo as an AI researcher, like, I have serious doubts this man knows what a computer is. Pretty good at grifting though. Also why is Rob Miles still listed as a PhD student. Like cant he hurry up and fuckin graduate already? Christ.
As an aside, I remember watching a PBS space time and seeing sponsored by Open Philanthropy (or some other EA organization) and I was like no not my beloved PBS!! I know it feels :(
@hrrrngh @froztbyte I was preeved about this, but was already starting to get sus because they’ve previously touched on Effective Altrusim positively (without using the term) and seem uncomfortably longtermist, which really does concern me given the figures and philosophies involved.
This is extra crap because I’d already introduce the channel to younger family members as a learning resource that I wouldn’t have to fact-check to death, but apparently noooo.
