Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee for president, fired back at pro-Palestinian protesters of Israel’s war in Gaza as they interrupted her speech during a Wednesday night campaign rally in Detroit.

“You know what? If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that. Otherwise, I’m speaking,” Harris said with a long stare, drawing loud cheers from supporters in the crowd before chants of, “Not going back!”

  • Superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The solution cannot be “don’t vote and let the other guys win” tho right? Kamala could have responded so much better, but that means we roll over?

    I just can’t get behind this take. It’s like the religious people who actively seek out the end of the world so they can all be raptured.

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      I don’t think you mean to say a movement that wants to end genocide is like those who seek the end of the world…

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        We can make comparisons to the behaviors of those within two different groups without comparing the goals of those groups. Ultimately they’re both self destructive and not going to accomplish their goals.

        And because it has to be said, of course I’m against the genocide. I do not think the person I responded to (and others like them) will ultimately be effective in ending it

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          I don’t see how the uncommitted movement is self-destructive; they’re the ones of families actively being destroyed from the outside. It’s like we’re asking them for solidarity in response to them asking for some to begin with. In that sense, their behavior is understandable and very much unlike the religious fanatics who support Zionism as a means to the second coming. Those people aren’t begging for their families to be saved.

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      My theory is that religious people want that, so they get into heaven without dying first. They are just afraid of dying.

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      The solution cannot be “don’t vote and let the other guys win” tho right?

      That is the risk the Kamala campaign is apparently willing to take.

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      The solution cannot be “don’t vote and let the other guys win” tho right?

      It isn’t. Keep trying. If she keeps refusing, vote for an anti-genocide candidate like Jill Stein.

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        Oh I’m sorry,

        *The solution cannot be “vote for someone who has no chance and let the other guys win” tho right?

        Seriously who the hell is Jill Stein? I bet if you asked most Americans they would have no clue. Can we have an ounce of realism here? We’re 3 months out from this election and finally got someone who is competitive with Trump. Jill Stein is not winning.

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          Seriously who the hell is Jill Stein? I bet if you asked most Americans they would have no clue.

          The lack of research skills of other voters is not my responsibility. My responsibility is to vote for the best candidate.

          We’re 3 months out from this election and finally got someone who is competitive with Trump.

          Then maybe she should try to keep that competitive edge by fucking listening when people are protesting a genocide! Genocide is wrong. If you have the power to end a genocide, you should do so. This is not rocket surgery.

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            If people don’t your name as a candidate, then it’s your own fault. Third parties have been completely unable to run an effective campaign. You can’t blame the voters for that.

            I’ll agree with you on your last point. While I think Kamala can be pushed in the right direction, her response here was a huge misstep. It’s insane to me that this wasn’t even prepared for.

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            you’re advocating for Palestine’s destruction by proxy. Stop encouraging the murder of innocents you disgusting monster. everyone knows trump would be worse for palestine, you didn’t get what you wanted so now you’re gonna whine and moan and shit in the punch bowl.

            grow up.

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              I don’t believe Trump will be worse, he will be the same but less polite about it. An honest genocider is better than a lying genocider.

              After 10 months of the Democratic Party enabling a genocide and lying about it, an honest genocider would be an improvement honestly. Liberals might actually stop apologizing for it.

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      Regardless of what people do, either vote or not vote, a Democrat or Republican will be President next term. The only choice people have is if they want to affect which one it will be.

      Is the argument that both parties will be the same? Is US support of Israel the only issue to consider?