• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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    Fuck Forbes. They prop up conservatives and conservative talking points. They also post screens of tweets from conservatives, like the dickbag (from this article) who referred to the Ukraine army as “Ukronazis”.

    The news of this attack is great to hear, but we should not be supporting Forbes with clicks. They are the enemy.

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      I tend to agree with you, but I also think it’s important to know how the “enemy” thinks and interpret the news. I don’t think we should lock ourselves up in echo bubbles only reading stuff we agree with.

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        In theory I’d agree with you. I don’t mind reading of nuances or different opinions than mine.

        In general however, conservative media are worthless piece of shit embarrassments that I don’t want to waste time on.

        There’s a difference between discussing with sometime with a different opinion, and stopping in the middle of the road responding to every deranged, mentally challenged ignorant mean crack addict who yells their vision of the world from the top of a soap box.

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          Agreed. They don’t argue in good faith. Their goal is not honesty and truth. What’s the point in engaging with someone like that?

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            Arguing in good faith is the important part.

            As soon as I engage with someone not arguing in good faith, I leave. There’s just no point.

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          Comparing Forbes to a deranged, mentally challenged crack addict isn’t very fair, whatever your opinion is on Forbes or crack addicts.

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      Forbes is just a blogging platform where “contributors” can post their clickbait. Forbes adds their reputation and the ads and then splits the profit with the “contributor”…

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          I once had a college professor tell me forbes was ‘absolutely reliable.’

          That was a few years ago, but still.

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        In this case you are wrong. This article is by Forbes Staff, not a contributor.

        Forbes uses one name to deliver two different products, one of which is an in house magazine.

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            I think you mean “anti-Nazi slogan”. The “Nazis” here are the ones doing Nazi shit, like invading other countries, putting people in prison camps, etc.

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          You’re not supposed to ask question like this, the bots here don’t like the truth.

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            You have linked directly to an image of a Ukrainian stomping on a swastika flag. You are not making the point you think you’re making.

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              They’re trying to liken it to the Nazis, but the fact remains that almost every single military in the world has something like this as either a battle cry or affirmation. US uses several iterations such as “Hooah”, “Ooah” and “Hooyah” depending on your branch so they can feel free to start chiming in about their views on US imperialism and nationalism any time they like, but we know they won’t.

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            Who out there would be dumb enough to think “Ukraini” would mean either “Sieg” or “Heil” and not just mean the the sovereign nation of Ukraine?

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            It means Glory to Ukraine. Pretty much every military has something like it (for example, Hooah or Ooh-rah for the US Military (specifically the Army and the Marines). It’s also a national salute, which a lot of countries have.

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            which translates to “say hail” in english

            https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/hail

            Verb

            hail (third-person singular simple present hails, present participle hailing, simple past and past participle hailed)

            (transitive) To greet; give salutation to; salute.

            (transitive) To name; to designate; to call. quotations ▼

            He was hailed as a hero.
            

            The problem with the german WWII one isn’t as much the word as who they were hailing.

            i very much doubt the Ukrainian word has the same negative connotations as the german one.

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      Conservatives like the Tories, who are like"fascist-lite", or conservatives like USA conservatives, who are full on “nazi level fascists”? 😅

      I think Forbes is scummy for many reasons and never liked them, you’ve given me another reason to dislike them.

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      I agree with referencing a horrible twitter user in the article, but your stance on conservatives, especially your username, is very fascist in of itself.

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        is very fascist in of itself.

        No. It’s not fascist to have a firm and authoritative opinion. It is, perhaps, violent and authoritarian in outlook, but conservatives have just tolerated an insurrection and those conservatives have yet to kill the traitor responsible for it, so contemplation of violence is justified because this ‘cold civil war’ as Vivek called it is not going to end with that boomer criminal in power ever again.

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      Are you suggesting there isn’t nazis in Ukraine’s armed forces? Take a look at the cemeteries for the soldiers, you will notice some weird flags flying.