Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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      so for posting it’s definitely less than ideal (not pictured: the 15 second delay before typing and the comment text being filled in), but it actually renders lemmy with shockingly few issues

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      screenshots of awful.systems rendering in Servo. it looks both janky and weirdly normal. for some reason, servo seems to be running inside of the emacs text editor.

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      From the reactions:

      “With enough garbage the model will become sentient”

      “I mean thats how humans are raised tho”

      AAAAAAAAAAAA

      (There is a tendency among promtfondlers to, in their attempt to hype up their objects of affection, diminish humans and humanity).

      As my little 2 year old said, after listening to a white noise generator for days. “Holy shit, I think therefore I am!”

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      the very first thing I thought of as I started reading this is this track by a small ZA artist I discovered a while back, and I started it to play as backtrack for reading

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      The terms, concerningly, don’t give a firm data retention time frame, and say that LineLeap may be “unable to fully delete or de-identify” user data due to “technical” or “other operational reasons.”

      My villain arc is going to be turning into Thanos and collecting them stones just to enforce GDPR forever into cosmic law with a snap of my fingers.

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    Saw this gem of a plaintive plea from a promptfan:

    can’t you just train a LLM to only output “sorry, I can’t answer your question”?

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      I read that differently.

      I parsed it as having the bot only output “sorry, I can’t answer your question”. Ever.

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      sleep( math.rand(15,20)); print(“I’m sorry. I’m afraid I don’t know the answer to that question.”);

      I call it HonestGPT, and will accept my billions in VC money now.

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    The New Yorker gamely tries to find some merit, any at all in the writings of Dimes Square darling Honor Levy. For example:

    In the story “Little Lock,” which portrays the emotional toll of having to always make these calculations, the narrator introduces herself as a “brat” and confesses that she can’t resist spilling her secrets, which she defines as “my most shameful thoughts,” and also as “sacred and special.”

    I’m really scraping the bottom of the barrel for extremely online ways to express the dull thud of banality here. “So profound, very wow”? “You mean it’s all shit? —Always has been.”

    She mixes provocation with needy propitiation

    Right-click thesaurus to the rescue!

    But the narrator’s shameful thoughts, which are supposed to set her apart, feel painfully ordinary. The story, like many of Levy’s stories, is too hermetically sealed in its own self-absorption to understand when it is expressing a universal experience. Elsewhere, the book’s solipsism renders it unintelligible, overly delighted by the music of its own style—the drama of its own specialness—and unable to provide needed context.

    So, it’s bad. Are you incapable of admitting when something is just bad?

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      Google also said something similar in one of their reports. Something along the lines of sure AI wrecked their sustainability report this year, but just you wait until it optimizes the data centers! As if the robots could find holes in thermodynamics or something.

      Anyway it’s not that great but here’s my attempt at the sneer you asked for:

      “Additionally, we are exploring how attaching flame-throwers to the bottom of private jets and flying over the tree-tops of forests can further increase the accountability and traceability for our Scope 3 carbon emissions.”

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        Appreciate, but flamethrowers on jets still sounds somehow less idiotic than tracking CO2 emissions with BLOCKCHAIN

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      Like a century of science: yeah we’re pretty sure where carbon emissions come from. Everyone needs to slow the fuck down. There’s no need to pontificate about the specifics, especially if that somehow produces even more emissions. That would be catastrophic, you see.

      MSFT: hold my beer

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      Additionally, we are exploring how technology, like savory vapes and cocaine, can help me kick my meth habit.

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    Continuing on from this nugget that Lex Fucking Fridman will be “analyzing” the Roman Empire, some nutter in the xhitter thread hoped the real reason the Empire fell would be “inflation”

    https://awful.systems/comment/4649129

    Looking forward to some chuds referencing the coming 1,000 hour podcast as proof the Roman Empire fell because woke

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      It’s remarkable to me how far and how rapidly this guy swerved outside of his initial lane, all while having absolutely terrible voice and diction for being a long-form interviewer. He’s worked on that, but it’s clear that his initial success was based off of targeting high-level professionals who otherwise wouldn’t very often be sought out for the type of interviews Lex does. I’m thinking of guys like Jim Keller and Chris Lattner, who would probably only make such public appearances in the form of keynotes at conferences for their specific niches.

      But you can’t convince me that you’re really the world’s best technical interviewer if you’re also uncritically sitting down with Donald fucking Trump, or deciding that you’re suddenly enough of a historian to take on Gibbon with your fucking podcast. Who’s financing this guy, anyway? Is MIT actually kicking him cash, or is it just an RMS scenario where they give him space because they’re concerned about where he might end up otherwise?

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        The only thing I’ve seen from Lex Friedman was his interview of Brian Kernighan. For most of it I just thought it was very kind of BWK to patiently indulge this kid, who was clearly still new and unaccustomed to public speaking or researching his interview subjects, despite the weirdly professional gear setup and production.

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        Note that he uses the same strategy as Joe Rogan: invite a smart person on, ask them introductory questions about their research, and then just kind of sit there with a dumb look and fail to understand what they’re saying. I gather that it’s easy to empathize with and doesn’t require listeners to actually learn much since they’re essentially sitting in a 101 course with a professor who is reading the curriculum aloud. What puzzles me is why MIT funds this shit.

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          I don’t think it’s very surprising. The various CS departments are extremely happy to ride the wave of easy funding and spend a lot of time boosting AI, just like how a few years ago all the cryptographers were getting into blockchains. For instance they added an entire new “AI” major, while eliminating the electrical engineering major on the grounds that “computation” is more important than electrical engineering.

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        Lex hasn’t optimized the skill of technical interviewing; he has optimized the skill of simultaneously stroking the interviewee’s and the (implicitly) listener’s ego.

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      some nutter in the xhitter thread hoped the real reason the Empire fell would be “inflation”

      Someone’s been watching too much Tuttle Twins (Warning: link to fascist propaganda youtube channel).

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        The links between hard money/goldbugs and (US) hard right goes back a long way, at least to the 30s I believe.

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          It makes a certain amount of sense with the conspiracy theories that are at the heart of fascist understanding of politics, though. Goldbuggery treats inflation like it’s a very simple question of monetary policy rather than a complex emergent part of an economic environment centered around constant growth. This means it’s a perfect tool for (((Them))) to be using from their secret position of power to invert the obvious natural order and keep Us (and more importantly from a propaganda perspective, You) away from the luxury and power that We deserve. The fascist conspiracy theories also answer the obvious problem with the goldbug narrative: if it’s so easy to fix inflation and would have no negative consequences, why don’t the people we keep electing to fix it just… do that?

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            Well put. Another example I like to play in my head (never debated a goldbug for real in my life, not starting now) is that if the gold standard is so great, how come a small-ish country like Switzerland or Singapore hasn’t started using it and outcompeting everyone?

            There’s only 2 answers to that:

            1. the gold standard doesn’t work in the modern economy, the one that has lifted millions out of poverty and created untold wealth (to great environmental damage, sure)
            2. the gold standard is being kept from them by (((they)))

            Answer 2 is obvious if you’re a fascist.

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              Not gold, but some countries do work to an officially restricted money supply! Those that have officially dollarised, e.g. El Salvador and Ecuador.

              I’m familiar with .sv. The government is horribly constricted - because they can’t print money and the populace doesn’t trust them to print money - so every year it’s more sovereign bonds. Then a fuckwit like Bukele comes along and thinks that bitcoins will make anything better and not worse.

              So yeah, turns out past 1930 that not being able to do monetary policy fucking sucks.

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    Meanwhile in Brazil, the first ChatGPT-powered city council candidate, advertising the Lawmaker of the Future AI as his governing assistant, and the power of blockchain against corruption.

    https://www.lex.tec.br/

    The most black mirror part for me is where he’s selling tickets to watch Lex (the aforementioned Lawmaker of the Future “AI”, represented as a sci-fi girlbot) in the theatre. No really this isn’t a parody, they’re literally serving political spectacle, as in, on stage.

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        OK Venturebeat have hastily beaten a venture-retreat and are decrying fraud complete with an AI generated header image that really screams “promptfondler caught red-handed fondling”.

        Contains such choice quotes are “fraud in the AI research community”, which are very reminiscent of Capt. Renault’s reaction in the casino in Casablanca.

        https://venturebeat.com/ai/new-open-source-ai-leader-reflection-70bs-performance-questioned-accused-of-fraud/

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          I should be trying to sleep, given I need to be on the road by 0630 tomorrow (it is 22h22), but this rapid fire set of events has greatly improved how happy I’ll feel about shit sleep by morning

          now do chatgpt4ahegao, cowards

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          “eagerly waiting for them to upload their weights to Hugging Face” really is the same vibe as “eagerly waiting for Magic The Gathering Online Exchange to give me my coins back”

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          “Hey if the R1 could do it with a shipped physical product, why couldn’t one just do it with software alone?” - genius bayfucker, 2024

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    Cohost going readonly at the end of this month, and shutting down at the end of the year: https://cohost.org/staff/post/7611443-cohost-to-shut-down

    Their radical idea of building a social network that did not require a either VC funding or large amounts of volunteer labour has come to a disappointing, if not entirely surprising end. Going in without a great idea on how to monetise the thing was probably not the best strategy as it turns out.

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          A small Lemmy or Mastodon that’s run by some guy and takes donations for hosting has a better grasp of funding than Cohost did

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            (smashes imaginary intercom button) “Who is this ‘some guy’? Find him and find out what he knows!!”

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      To be clear: Cohost did take funding from an anonymous angel, and as a result will not be sharing their source code; quoting from your link:

      Majority control of the cohost source code will be transferred to the person who funded the majority of our operations, as per the terms of the funding documents we signed with them; Colin and I will retain small stakes so we have some input on what happens to it, at their request.

      We are unable to make cohost open source. the source code for cohost was the collateral used for the loan from our funder.

      Somebody paid a very small amount of money to get a cleanroom implementation of Tumblr and did not mind that they would have to build a community and then burn it to the ground in the process. It turns out that angels are not better people than VCs.

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        Looking at both cohost and tumblr, I don’t think the funder has an asset that’s worth very much.

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          Yeah, having the source to a site (even if it includes stuff like day to day ops, backups etc) isn’t worth much if you don’t have a community. It’s a bit like “open source” LLMs, sure you can run a mudball of python on your computer but the real worth is in ingesting and classifying.

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      Their radical idea of building a social network that did not require a either VC funding or large amounts of volunteer labour has come to a disappointing, if not entirely surprising end. Going in without a great idea on how to monetise the thing was probably not the best strategy as it turns out.

      I never used Cohost, but I know a couple people who do and fuuuuuuuck this sucks. 'Least Newgrounds is still going, though that’s a bit of an apples-to-oranges comparison.

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      i used (and use, until the shutdown) as my primary social media site. i’m not surprised, but i can’t say it hasn’t been disappointing. for all the issues it has (and it did have a lot) it was pretty much the only site that felt somewhat cozy to use for me. stings quite a bit

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    new idea: get the morewrongers to work themselves up about “ontologically, is ‘superhuman prediction’ the same class as superintelligence?”

    why? oh, y’know, just things:

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      I’ve clowned on Dan before for personal reasons, but my god, this is the dumbest post so far. If you had a superhuman forecasting model, you wouldn’t just hand it out like a fucking snake oil salesman. You’d prove you had superhuman forecasting by repeatably beating every other hedge fund in the world betting on stock options. The fact that Dan is not a trillionaire is proof in itself that this is hogwash. I’m fucking embarrassed for him and frankly seething at what a shitty, slimily little grifter he is. And he gets to write legislation? You, you have to stop him!

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      Percentages are cheating, especially percentages below 50.

      I’ll predict a 49% chance Mont Blanc erupts tomorrow, covering half of Europe in chocolate.

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      I got mad at this last time I saw Nate Bronze assign percentages to the 2024 US election.

      Like, my dude, what the fuck does that mean? Is the election result a random variable? What is its PDF? What maths could you have possibly done to arrive at a crisp [0, 1] probability value?

      How did you go from “predict the future”, an obviously wildly fuzzy and inaccurate vibes check, to a concrete real number??

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      ‘This tool can do X at a superhuman level’ is often quite an embarrassing thing to believe. (in before somebody says computers can do calculations at superhuman levels). Saying your tool can do that is also pretty cringe.

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      how’s the nix drama going these days? I need more spilled tea to sip, anywhere I can read a recap? did everyone just gave up on not being sponsored by border surveillance drones?

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        we have some dedicated Nix threads on FreeAsm, our community for open source stuff that might give you a good recap of the latest stuff. where I’m sitting as a former Nix contributor and advocate is — nothing is fixed, all this obvious fash shit worked so well it’s being tried in other open source communities, and I really would like a nice alternative to NixOS so I can finally release a lot of the Nix stuff I’ve been sitting on (and also because nixpkgs keeps breaking — so many maintainers left that some of the further corners of the package set I use are already showing a lot of rot)