I will take old over corrupt any day.
Next?
It’s absolutely insane that this is even being debated. Biden could keel over tomorrow and he would still make the better president.
I’d vote for his casket over that orange turd
Both are old and corrupt.
Do you have an actual source on Biden being corrupt, or are you just a whiny loser?
It’s pretty easy to point to how he’s getting his son handled in court. While a far cry from trying to overthrow the government it is corruption regardless.
Legit source on corruption or gtfo, child.
Except most people wouldn’t have been tried in Hunter’s position. Wanna try again?
All politicians are corrupt to a certain degree, that is why we can’t idolize and become apologists for them.
It is just how much you yourself can handle or what you are okay with keeping your head in the sand for.
Whiney loser it is then.
Most intelligent Jimmy Dore fan
Great, don’t vote. I’m guessing with that rationale you’re a Trump supporter anyway.
Oh GTFO with that and go do some soul searching
Right, Biden is an old and decrepit 80 while Trump is a young and virile 77.
He’s quite spry. Watch how he runs from the law.
Biden is old. Trump is old, corrupt, and a traitor.
If you don’t vote Trump will likely win because old people do vote and most will vote for Trump. So get out and vote against Trump at least.
This old fuck will never vote for that Putin-sucking, diaper-filling-while-denying-it, corrupt asshole of a traitor, but I agree with your message.
Amen, PeckerBrown! Release the peepee tapes! Expose the diapers!
The only reason why I have a hard time believing that’s true is that he barely won last time and he’s burnt a lot of bridges since then, not to mention killed a lot of his constituency with COVID.
Not saying you’re wrong I just can’t wrap my brain around it.
We couldn’t wrap our brains around Trump winning the first time. Just vote in every election.
I’ll repeat it in case anyone has missed it.
JUST VOTE IN EVERY ELECTION.
We have to go vote in every, single, election. The right spent the last 70 years cultivating a base full of ignorant bigots so they’d turn out to vote against black people and hippies. They even got hateful fuckers to run for boring things like school boards and city councils. That shit paid dividends for them as we’re all witnessing today with a gerrymandered congress and school boards deciding they’re not going to teach things because the truth hurts their feelings.
The only way we win long term is to go vote in every single election and drag the country back to the left (the real left, not the current crop of milquetoast corporate-democrats) so we can have a real conversation about things like wage theft, national healthcare, and UBI.
While there is an advantage among older Voters to Vote for whomever has an R next to their name, it is no where as pronounced as you are led to believe.
Age and generation
The aging U.S. electorate: A majority of Republican voters - and half of Democrats - are 50 and olderThe U.S. electorate is aging: 52% of registered voters are ages 50 and older, up from 41% in 1996. This shift has occurred in both partisan coalitions. More than half of Republican and GOP-leaning voters (56%) are ages 50 and older, up from 39% in 1996. And among Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters, half are 50 and older, up from 41% in 1996.
Another way to consider the aging of the electorate is to look at median age. The median age among all registered voters increased from 44 in 1996 to 50 in 2019. It rose from 43 to 52 among Republican registered voters and from 45 to 49 among Democratic registered voters.
Aren’t Gen Z boys largely voting R? I don’t think it works quite like you are suggesting. That presumes the party will just die out, but that’s been predicted since like the 1980s and that just hasn’t happened.
The general trend I’ve seen is older people tend to vote conservative and younger people tend to vote liberal. The senior population is expanding, and they vote.
Trump is just about as old as Biden. A distinction without a difference.
well better to go with the young guy trump. sic. no serious whats with describing biden as old and trump as corrupt. Sure trump is corrupt but he is only like 2 and change years younger than biden,
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Unflattering portraits of Biden and Trump emerge clearly in a new poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, which asked an open-ended question about what comes to mind when people think of them.
Trump, meanwhile, has been indicted in four cases featuring 91 total criminal counts and elicits words such as “corrupt” and “crooked” (named by 15%), along with “bad” and other generally negative comments (11%).
Biden’s age was referenced frequently even among Democrats, 28% of whom mention it — a significantly higher percentage than those who point to the presidency or leadership (11%) or strength and capability (11%).
Rami Marsha, a 58-year-old CEO of a manufacturing company in Agoura Hills, California, is a registered Democrat who voted for Trump in 2016 and for Biden in 2020 — but says he’d likely leave the presidential race portion of his ballot blank if those two square off again in 2024.
Biden’s reelection campaign said the president’s age is not a top motivator for voters, especially compared to the administration’s policy accomplishments or key issues like abortion.
Larry Haith, a 73-year-old Idahoan and retired president and general manager of an auto parts firm, is a Republican who described Biden for the poll as an “idiot” and called Trump “arrogant.” He said he doesn’t plan on voting for either next year.
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The 2 party Blockpartei system says hello, and that if you don’t like it tough luck.
I wonder if Biden’s age helps him to some extent, since if that’s the only bad thing you can think of while the other guy is “corrupt” that doesn’t seem so bad to me. If he wasn’t old maybe you’d see the “typical politician” criticisms like “phony” or something.
It almost certainly helps him appeal to older moderates, who play a pretty big part in winning elections.
Worst thing about Biden is nothing significant will change. Which pales in comparison to the best thing about every single Republican in the Election. Regardless of the Election always being between a douche and a shit show, at least the douche is trying to clean something.
Not even a little bit.
Biden’s age isn’t just a number. The guy really acts very, very old.
Even when he gave the speech in response to the court striking down student loans, when he was all fired up, and announcing some pretty powerful policies… even then he just seemed so sleepy and low energy.
Trump, for all his many, many, many, many disqualifying flaws, still seems feisty and energetic in comparison.
That said, Bernie Sanders is even older, but I’d vote for him even if he were on his deathbed. Bernie Sanders’ corpse would do a better job representing the people than would any Republican, and 90 percent of Democrats.
I’m not saying it’s not a bad thing, but it crowds out some other bad thing that people would feel about him instead.
Sure Trump seems more energetic, he would win in a how-old-do-they-seem competition, but in a who-should-be-president competition I’d rather have someone slow in his competence vs energetic in his corruption.
Probably the next-worst thing wouldn’t be that Biden’s corrupt but conceivably it could be worse than just being old.
You want to talk old and electable… Jerry Brown. He’s 85, so 5 years older than Biden.
And he kicked Whitmans ass in 2010:
Equating issues originating with Aging and issues originating with Corruption seems deeply bigoted.
Neither, really, is a good choice. But what are the alternatives?
Kamala Harris was a nightmare in California:
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article233375207.html
She hasn’t been effective at all in the VP role:
Which means the inevitable “Her Turn!” 2028 cycle against Gavin Newsom is going to be super awkward.
God forbid something happens to Biden, I hope Newsom gets the nomination over Harris.
They are both old and corrupt, vote for someone else
Biden and Trump are old and corrupt.
I’m hoping for a third party I can vote for. As a ‘right wing’, ‘liberal’, and whatever other labels you want to put on me… the R’s stated values most closely match what I want in general, but i’ve votes mostly thrid party for decades now as few I can trust to vote my values are running. The third party I vote for is of course wackos I wouldn’t want to win, but they won’t and maybe my vote sends a message.
“the R’s stated values most closely match what I want in general”
I mean, that’s all I really know, knowing what the R’s stated values are, to tell that you are not a person I ever want to associate with. Because their stated values are monstrous.
You have no idea which values I stand for, and which I have a problem with, but you have already judged me? We learned a lot about you.
You said you stand for Republican values. Nothing on the Republican party platform is defensible. Have you read it?
You should just not vote. All the cool bigots are doing it
Green Party has Dr. Cornel West!
Libertarian Party also runs people during General Election.
Im not voting for the guy that banned collective bargaining. Mr longest stretch of no minimum wage increase in US history. But also that im not allowed to have health insurance because my wages are too low.
My life has only worsened under him as all the prices around me skyrocket while my paycheck stays the same.
Are you referring to the train workers? Whom he got the exact bargain they wanted a month or two later?
The federal minimum wage requires an amendment from Congress. Not sure what that has to do with him?
Biden is the one who got a bunch of health care and medicaid expansions done over the past 3 years. Are you complaining about the multiple states revoking those expansions a couple months ago? Because, yes, that’s bullshit, but it is the exact opposite of what Biden has been doing.
He did not get their exact bargain because they werent allowed to bargain. They got less than what they couldve, later than if they were allowed to strike, and all future negotiations are poisoned by the precedent of not being allowed to strike. What fucking leverage do they have then?
The president can introduce and promote legislation, and its been involved in previous wage increases. Hes been silent of course.
Not months ago, many years ago, a hole of millions of uninsured Americans Biden promised to address. And its been nothing.
Listen, not a Biden fan, but that’s not exactly his fault. Biden can’t tell companies to not price gouge.
didnt mention price gouging. If my wages were higher, I’d qualify for subsidies. But if you’re wages are too low, like mine, you get nothin. You gotta pay full price for private insurance for being too poor. It’s a bug with the ACA Biden promised to fix but…I dont think he’s even mentioned it since. Or you know, raise the minimum wage like all the other dem presidents.
He hasn’t. It’s one of my criticisms of Biden, that he dropped any notion of fixing healthcare the second he won. That and his refusal to push back against the parliamentarian.
Again, not a fan of Biden, but he can’t unilaterally raise the minimum wage for non-federal workers or tell companies not to price gouge. He should have taken steps to put those two things on blast, but hasn’t.
Edit: to people downvoting the above comment, please stop. You don’t have to agree with them, but you should try to understand where they’re coming from and understand that their criticism is coming from a good place. Biden isn’t perfect by any means. Better than the last guy, sure. But he shouldn’t be defended when he fucks up.
That means you support the traitor.
