• spacecadet@lemm.ee
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    I’m not an old dude, but I mean these women need that crowd to make money. It’s weird calling them creeps but at the same time they are posting nearly nude photos of themselves publicly on social media. Who do they think is following that content? Physicists at CERN calculating the new gravitation force off of your oversized diaper butt BBL? medical doctors determining the tolerance a 115lb woman with 1000cc of silicone can tolerate? Get real, you’re posting your tits because you know exactly those types of dudes will follow and you can either trick them into giving you money for feet pics or buying you a weekend in Dubai.

    These 22 year old “model influencers” will be begging for these old dudes to pay them attention when they hit the wall in 5 years.

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      I’m around plenty of people of all ages and count people in every decade of their life as my friends, and frequently am around women in their mid twenties. I went for dinner with 3, plus other mixed company, on Sunday. One mentioned they were 27, I dont know about the others - I can tell you confidently that they in no way care what 40 year old men (of which I am one) think of their attractiveness and I would endanger my friendship and appear like a creep to even ask. What you’re talking about doesn’t actually exist in the real world.

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        The post wasn’t about ordinary women going through their lives in healthy ways. It was about young women influencers and the old men who follow them. The reason why is obvious.

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      I can’t find where she called them creeps but I think her issue is that they are married.

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        I will say that by 27 creepy old men did stop yelling their attraction at me as I walked down the street, which was nice

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          That “hit the wall” stuff is always hilariously transparent. It’s a self-soothe. “She won’t be worth it in a few years anyway so you’re missing out.”

          I’m 38 and the wall where I stop getting unwanted attention sure never seems to come. Which is disappointing. I’m really looking forward to my crone era.

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            Your comment very much reminds me of an episode of 30 Rock in which Liz Lemon starts dressing like an old crone and acting crazy on the subway to secure a place to sit.

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            The ones using the wall thing can’t even tell how old a woman is anyways. I got told I’ll hit the wall once I reach 26 and then I will have regrets. I was already well into my 30s at that time.

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            Have you started collecting toadstool and eye of newt? How is your mad cackle coming along? Are you behind on setting up your 401crone?

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            I have written this before, but I don’t think it actually stops. I do not think it’s even about looks really. Or at least I’m over 50 and still getting catcalled on my way to work. Fully expect to be 90 and have some kid yell “Lookin’ spry, grandma!” at me from a moving car.

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            So the moral of the story is that boobies are good even after they turn 27?

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          Is an incel someone who doesn’t white knight for women who couldn’t care less about their own existence? It’s gotten to the point where incel just means “a guy who believes men and women should be equal”. Yeah, I was exaggerating when I was saying 27 but there are tons of women online regretting not taking relationships more seriously when they were in their 30’s.

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            Lingua franca dude. I’ve never heard “hit the wall” used outside the man-o-sphere. Maybe not exclusively incel, but incel adjacent at least.

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            It’s gotten to the point where incel just means “a guy who believes men and women should be equal”.

            No, that’s not even remotely true, and it’s not what your previous comment was saying either.

            Incels are essentially misogynists with a sexual fixation. Like classical misogynists tend to be more occupied with women having jobs or holding positions of power, while incels tend to be more upset about women’s sexual habits, but both are preoccupied with hating on women they deem to be misbehaving.

            I think the part of your previous comment that gave the most ‘incel vibes’ was the bit about women begging for attention after ‘hitting the wall’ in their 20s. Maybe you intended it as a comment on women who regretted not taking relationships more seriously in their 30s, but it came off as a sort of fantasy where the women who transgressed your model of how ladies should act get their just desserts.

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            It’s become a generic insult like re*d or faot was. Or still is for some people. Probably the same crowd. Saying that creepy old dudes are generally mainly interested in younger women and would lose interest as they get older is kinda the point of why they’re creepy old dudes. Not an incel thing to say, just how creepy old dudes work.

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            If men only date women below 30 (or 27 apparently??) for their youthful appearance, what incentive do those women have to take dating seriously? Those men won’t stay anyway. This is the main contradiction in incel rhetoric. If you don’t like to look at women past 30, women shouldn’t date you “seriously “ while in their 20s.

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          Dicaprio hasn’t been a role model for me since I saw him in basketball diaries and spent the next few years trying to be just like Jim Carroll. Never again Leo. Never again.

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      You may not be an old dude, but it sure seems like you already hit the wall.

      Friend of mine’s father, who was seventy at the time, got hit on by an older lady at the grocery store.

      Lamenting that he didn’t follow it up with her, “she was eighty, but a young eighty, if you know what I mean”

      Wall? Gtfo, dumbass

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        I think you may have misunderstood.

        If you’re a 22yo “influencer” and your target market is people who follow 22yo influencers then it will be difficult to generate engagement when you’re 27.

        That doesn’t seem that controversial to me, and I don’t see how octogenarians getting laid at the supermarket is relevant?

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      If I were to do that, I’d probably do it for the money. I would get unfaithful followers (hard to pinpoint who because open relationships and other types of relationships exist, but statistically, there would be), and that wouldn’t make it any less uncomfortable. I personally hate unfaithful/dishonest partners.

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        I think the concept of sexual cheating is obsolete and malignant psychological evolutionary flotsam that should be stamped out. That those who wish to reinforce its social presence should be bullied and ostracized for it.

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          I disagree. Violence is not the answer, and especially not against people that are living in a way that doesn’t hurt others. If a couple (or polycule) wants to be sexually exclusive, they have the right to do so, and they do not hurt others because it’s not a social imposition for everyone.

          Edit: I mean, I understand questioning why we choose it, “deconstructing”, as we now call it, but after that, I think it’s an intimate matter.

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            Yes, I only applied as much force and violence as the normative consensus. I mean… not even close since they used to stone adulterers to death so.

            I think claims in favour of sexual exclusivity enforcement need to be taken skepticism at minimum but ideally string opposition.

            Also need to avoid mote and bailey arguments about this.

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          It depends. Some relationships are open to pornography, others aren’t. Some are open to sexual intercourse outside their people, but others aren’t. It’s about consent and agreeing to live in a way that all needs are met.

          That’s why I said it’s hard to know who is betraying their partner and who isn’t, because maybe a man or woman or whoever following an erotic/pornographic content creator is not outside what their partner(s) expect, or maybe they are.

          Anyway, I do not like people breaking their “contracts” instead of talking them out.