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Maybe you could say this if the election was close. But the Gaza-Isreal voters are a drop in the bucket.
Yep, non-voters were a much bigger problem for Harris
You mean “fuck you, you’re voting for us, here’s Dick Cheney!” wasn’t the winning message for everyone that it was for centrists?
Even with them parading the Cheneys, I could understand a close loss after a week in the courts or just SOMETHING. Instead she lost so hard, she was conceding the next day. I kinda just gotta go what the fuck?
I got such a bad sinking feeling when they pivoted so hard right, but I genuinely thought Trump talking like a fucking lunatic might actually scare enough people into action and make it a close race.
While I have had criticism of Harris, I’ve never insulated that she(or Biden) wasn’t the much, much better option. I have been called a Burniebro on a discord by someone who doesn’t take criticisms very well.
Hey, at least the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is about to be finally resolved in our lifetime.
Blaming indiviguals for not wanting to vote for a pro-genicide candidate works so well. Totally helped us win 2016 and 2024.
Here’s the real issue. The Dems would rather be moderate Republicans than actual left-wing candidates. They spent all their time trying to appeal to modern White wingers and modern right-wing are still vote for people like Trump instead.
Oh, look how smart you are, you figured out the REAL issue! Conveniently, it had nothing to do with people like you doing everything possible to spread voter apathy, what a coinky-dink!
Look how smart you are, you didn’t vote for the “PrO-gEnoCiDe candidate”, and now we have the actual Pro-Genocide PARTY in charge of the Presidency, Congress and the Supreme Court.
What’s first on your agenda? Email Trump, ask him to stop the genocide, LOL?? Oh hey, maybe the Trump administration will allow Palestinians to seek asylum here in the US right?!?! We all know how friendly they are to immigrants!
You’re so effin’ smart, man! We are all in awe of your genius political acumen.
You should be angry at the millions of people who voted for trump instead. There’s a lot more of them than left wingers with morals.
I like how the Republicans are now simply labeled Trump. It’s so fitting!
If this is a joke, I apologize for clarifying but the Republican is listed as Trump for both of those races because the Republican nominee was Trump in both those races. They’re not just calling all Republicans Trump LOL
We should not pander to fascists and their enablers so we are free to say fuck all non voters. You will not have another election anyways so non voters should be cut out of anyones life the same way MAGA is.
Thanks electing Trump, Uncommitteds. Enjoy watching Gaza burn and Ukraine turn into Russia.
No, thank you! we couldn’t have done it without your absolutely disgusting support for a genocide. expecting other people to fight for you when you won’t fight for them. my god the arrogance.
“Joined 25 days ago”
Ok Russian shill account.
If the Lemmy mods hasn’t censored all the posts that disputed the characterization of the war in Gaza as a genocide, I’d feel bad.
But the radical left simply cannot withstand anyone questioning their antisemitic world view.
Maybe you can trade places with a Palestinian getting genocided right now and see how smug you are then.
Zionists are something else.
It’ll be a genocide soon enough.
Thank you for finally providing a sane take, here on Lemmy.
I am so sick about the Gaza rhetoric and that’s why we lost. Bitch less then 10% of voters give a shit about Gaza. 40% of voters have major concerns about the economy. The next highest concern was immigration at 20%. Foreign policy was a measly 8% of concern for voters.
This goes for people blaming Jill Stein voters. Kamala got wrecked in this election. Even if you add all 3rd party votes to her she still loses.
lol. 10% (or was it 4% a few hours ago from you dunces…) that literally cost harris 25 electoral points. oops! sure she could have done more on labor. but she wouldn’t even fucking shift to stop being pro-genocide. I doubt she gave a shit about your eggs costing a few cents more. or if you were LGBT+. so she wasnt going to get those votes either.
Honest question and I’m being 100% sincere. Did he genocide them last time he was elected? Can you send me more info on what he’s planning to do this election?
Or is it mostly just enabling his voters to hate lgtb people?
Trump supports the genicide of Gaza
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/25/trump-netanyahu-support-gaza-lebanon/
Yes I’m aware of that. OP made it sound like they were more concerned about LGBT genocide
And disabled folks, and veterans, and naturalized citizens…
Hey, chasing republican votes didn’t work this time, but I’m sure it will next time. Definitely don’t try appealing to the left.
As long as progressives (and correspondingly, everybody) gets nothing, we’re good 👍👍🤘✊
Do you think we’ll get primaries back? And not the fake ones we’re use to.
No way, the rabble might ask for someone that doesn’t allow Nancy Pelosi to openly do insider trading.
Then the rabble wont show up for elections. No better way to drain the energy out of a voter base then to make their voices feel unheard.
Then the rabble wont show up for elections. No better way to drain the energy out of a voter base then to make their voices feel unheard.
Democrats will never understand this.
Damn I didn’t know 50 leftist shitposters on the internet had so much power that they can flip an election. Maybe they should try to do what they ask if they want to win
Are you talking about Lemmy alone? These people are EVERYWHERE over the Internet, TikTok especially. Also the reach for a post is a lot larger than the likes it gets, like upwards of 10x.
Do you see enough votes from any independent to get Kamala elected? Stop blaming the voters. She didn’t campaign.
2 million registered PA voters did not vote.
How does that compare to past elections?
A lack of accountability has been a recurring theme here. The orange man will take no accountability for attempting an insurrection, or for the hatred he encourages. Voters will not take accountability for electing a fascist.
Democrats will take no responsibility for why they lost.
Nor will the legal system take responsibility for not doing anything about Trump before he pardoned himself.
Nor will the Democrats take any responsibility when Trump steamrolls over their constituents.
when “the candidate who wants start a fresh, new genocide” wins the popular vote, it is the perfect time to blame the voters
And I don’t suppose it could be because people are not happy with joblessness and inflation?
I believe that’s a huge part of it, but it sucks that those people just want trump to print more money
And the cycle continues…
Also valid. The democrats and their mouthpieces in the press yelled from the rooftops that the economy was Good Actually and that people were just too dumb to see it.
Trump campaigned on the economy being bad, and then scapegoated everyone except the corporate elite that are raising prices.
MFW I forget that people can choose not to vote at all
It is called democracy when you can’t force people to do what you want.
Did she campaign? Did she run a good campaign? Did she go into the black barber shops, like Trump did? Did she go into the McDonald’s, like Trump did? Did she go out to meet the people, like Trump did?
She tried scaring people away from Trump and it didn’t work. They want an economy that’s doing better than this. They want jobs. They want their life to be better.
That’s how you win elections. You tell people you know how to make their lives better. You don’t tell them the other guy is going to make their life worse. That doesn’t win an election. It never has.
https://lemmy.world/comment/13289142
It gets downvotes, but it’s still not wrong.
The thing is that she shouldn’t have needed to campaign. Trump is a big enough piece of work that he shouldn’t have been an option in anyones mind.
Putins propaganda machine made him win. The guy didn’t even have a campaign program for fucks sake.
That’s never the case. You always need to campaign.
Not AGAINST something.
FOR something.
Trump enablers in leftist spaces are just agent provocateurs. There’s always some infiltrators
Genocide-enabling establishment cultist can’t figure out why they lost, but sure everyone who tried to get them to see the end result if they didn’t change their tune are the the agent provocateurs.
Two days ago i said she could have lied and won and someone got upset.
For them supporting genocide and ignoring people protest and not even speaking to them is better than lying to secure vote to stop what they call a “threat to democracy”
I also pointed out that she has different ads in Michigan and PA, and someone refused to watch the video because it was on Fox news.
These people lives in the cloud, everyone is a russian bot or troll. They never blame the Democrats that insisted on Biden even after the debate, where they could have allowed Harris to plan better long time ago.
My best is when I see Bill Clinton supporting harries in a campaign about Women Abortion Right. Like at least be a shame of someone associated with Epstein and caught lying in office.
Agreed 100%. It’s the refusal to self-reflect and attacks on anyone who dare to question that turns people away. Not only is Bill Clinton a terrible campaign messenger, but he was chastising Arab-americans in Michigan for being against genocide. Just like Obama was blaming black men.
The one enabling genocide now will be Turbo Genocide Donny and it will be 10 times worse.
Or did you think it would stop when Trump won? Are you this naive?
The only one being naive here is you. I don’t think it will stop cause Trump won. It will likely get worse. Democrats could have stopped it though, but their “we’re terrible, but the other guy is worse” messaging isn’t as effective as “no more genocide.”
