it’s baffling because personally i could rant about how pretty most women are for hours on end, and if desired i can extend that to a lot of guys as well and i’m not even that into dudes.
Yeah, me too. I can appreciate aesthetics. I’m I cishet guy but I can admit that Jude Law or Daniel Craig are very, very pretty. I may not be attracted to them, but I’m not blind.
Sour grapes plus that thing where people who don’t eat fruit for a long time but eat artificial fruit flavoring think real fruit tastes gross. Reality with all its imperfections and subtlety is unappetizing to them, they only desire the artificial which is familiar to them.
Yeah. I think that’s one of the points of the anti porn people that I don’t necessarily disagree with the point they’re making I just think they’re overly focused on the thing they see as sinful and ignoring that a) there’s porn where the bodies look real, b) porn isn’t the only culprit here, movies, tv, social media, advertisements, etc all depict similarly unrealistic depictions of bodies and it’s in that landscape where a vast majority of entertainment contains such unrealistic depictions that this is able to happen, and c) that’s still not a sufficient argument to ban a form of expression, if it was there’d be a lot more in need of banning see point b
I think point b is really the crux here. It doesn’t matter whether your unrealistic depiction of sexual partners is movie stars, porn stars, anime, or what sitcoms depict the average family as; if you aren’t engaging in real life with real people you’re going to get unrealistic expectations.
And I don’t really have a solution that doesn’t involve pressuring people to touch grass. Like that’s clearly what they need, but especially for incels they’re going to be rejected by communities when they try because they’re behaving terribly and sometimes hurting people in the process.
Do people go on about women being ugly? Like all women?
it’s baffling because personally i could rant about how pretty most women are for hours on end, and if desired i can extend that to a lot of guys as well and i’m not even that into dudes.
Yeah, me too. I can appreciate aesthetics. I’m I cishet guy but I can admit that Jude Law or Daniel Craig are very, very pretty. I may not be attracted to them, but I’m not blind.
Yeah it’s an incel thing
Oh, so it’s more of a sour grapes situation.
Sour grapes plus that thing where people who don’t eat fruit for a long time but eat artificial fruit flavoring think real fruit tastes gross. Reality with all its imperfections and subtlety is unappetizing to them, they only desire the artificial which is familiar to them.
I don’t like this flavor of dystopia.
Yeah. I think that’s one of the points of the anti porn people that I don’t necessarily disagree with the point they’re making I just think they’re overly focused on the thing they see as sinful and ignoring that a) there’s porn where the bodies look real, b) porn isn’t the only culprit here, movies, tv, social media, advertisements, etc all depict similarly unrealistic depictions of bodies and it’s in that landscape where a vast majority of entertainment contains such unrealistic depictions that this is able to happen, and c) that’s still not a sufficient argument to ban a form of expression, if it was there’d be a lot more in need of banning see point b
I think point b is really the crux here. It doesn’t matter whether your unrealistic depiction of sexual partners is movie stars, porn stars, anime, or what sitcoms depict the average family as; if you aren’t engaging in real life with real people you’re going to get unrealistic expectations.
And I don’t really have a solution that doesn’t involve pressuring people to touch grass. Like that’s clearly what they need, but especially for incels they’re going to be rejected by communities when they try because they’re behaving terribly and sometimes hurting people in the process.