• szczuroarturo@programming.dev
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    21 days ago

    Thats technicaly correct for me .I often play eu4 while i watch eu4 and spice it up with a bit of music in the background. Alghtough i do only watch gameplays of games im really into ( eu4 ,against the storm ) but generaly not skilled ( or patient )enough to do whatewer crazy shit the streamer is doing, rarely gameplays of games where plot is important in any way and when id do usualy its speedruns.

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    21 days ago

    That’s because I suck at the games I like and need that hit of dopamine imagining I’m actually good at something

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    21 days ago

    This makes me feel kind of alienated.

    I don’t think I’ve ever watched someone playing games intentionally, outside of like “how do you do this part?” guides, and maybe a couple hours spectating in games total.

    Ok, and a handful of like “let me solo her” highlights that made it to me. But I never like seek it out.

    I’m principal Skinner, I guess.

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      20 days ago

      I like people doing challenge runs and speed runs, and occasionally letsgameitout who spends 1000 hours committing to the bit that I might have considered as a passing funny joke. I’d rather watch that then some evening ad riddled free to air.

      I’m well over 30, not far from 40. Hobbies can be entertaining like watching someone else race a car. I ain’t gonna be able to do that. But I appreciate those who can.

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        It would never occur to me to go watch someone do a whole speed run. Even less so to watch someone “doing a bit”. Like, making a character that looks like Shrek and invading in a swamp is kind of funny, but I’m not going to watch that.

        I don’t know how to explain the complete void that is my interest there. Like, I wouldn’t be mad if it was on in the background. But I just… Don’t find it appealing. Like watching paint dry or looking out my window. It’s there. Sometimes there’s a cat. But I’m never going to be like "sweet let’s go watch outside the window "

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      21 days ago

      Bro, preach. Definitely only need a quick clip for like, where is this item hiding in Elden Ring?

      Maybe helps that I still have a solid squad of irl mates I game with, but also don’t mind catching solo time on single players.

      I was dead fucking wrong about twitch tho. When it first came out I was like “who the hell is this for, younger siblings?” Like, why wouldn’t you just play the game yourself? Figured there’d be a lil niche for e-sport pro level scene, but twitch got way bigger than I ever would’ve thought.

      Saying all this as a mid-thirty dude who truly will never comprehend people who spend a bunch on twitchy

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        21 days ago

        It’s cool watching people of different skill levels than you, not just the pros I think. Also when people take on challenges that take a long time, you can kind of skip through the vid at your leisure.

        Plus sometimes you just don’t have the energy to game. It’s like Matt Groening said in that old Life is Hell comic (although about tv): Why is tv the best pal of all? When you’re tired, tv does the playing for you.

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      21 days ago

      this is Lemmy. There’s like dozens of us in this thread that hate watching streamers! you are not alone.

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      21 days ago

      If I want to do my hobby, I need to make time for it, whereas if I want to watch videos about my hobby, I can do it on the toilet. It turns out it’s a lot easier to watch than make time for a hobby, hence why I do more of it.

      If I didn’t have to work, I’d spend more time doing my hobby. But I do, and I have kids, so hobby time is quite limited.

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      21 days ago

      Watching someone cut a dovetail by hand is a lot more interesting now that I know from experience how hard it is. And maybe I’ll learn a trick to make my next ones better.

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          21 days ago

          A dovetail is a type of joint that doesn’t require fasteners and only uses the material (usually glue for wood).

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            21 days ago

            It was more funny when I didn’t know that :(

            But thanks! I kind of expected it’s something like that :D

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              21 days ago

              Does knowing that the name comes from one of the join elements (left side) looking like the tail of a dove, improve that?

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            21 days ago

            Cutting dovetails implies by hand - power tools exist for it, but those using power tools generally use different joints.

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                I’m not surprised. They are very hard to make correctly and not that much better than other options that are easier to do. they are a “holy grail” of wood working skill for a reason. I’ve done a dozen in my life and the best is so awful I want to burn an otherwise nice creation to hide the evidence.

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    21 days ago

    It’s time for game publishers to think about in-game video as something beyond marketing alone," said Rhys Elliott, games analyst, MIDiA Research. ‘‘By reclaiming video engagement, publishers have the potential to unlock new revenue streams, like advertising, and drive growth.’’

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        21 days ago

        Please bro just a little bit more groooowth. I promise we’ll unlock all the money in the world if we can just have a littile more grooowwth.

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      21 days ago

      Lmao, what a takeaway. Guy is struggling to earn that paycheck.

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        21 days ago

        Reminds me of the business plans of the business guys from Ready Player One. “We estimate we can sell up to 80 percent of a user’s visual field before inducing seizures.” 😂

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    21 days ago

    Plenty of people have a twitch stream open whilst playing a game.

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      21 days ago

      The interesting part to me is that you can watch football even when/if you can’t play football, but you could be gaming instead of watching.

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      21 days ago

      I can only watch so much football as can a rare other people like me. If I am watching football I want the view of one position. I don’t care that the buarterpacv got sacked on the play, how did the running back avoid the defense in his attempts to become open for a pass - or some such that I want to emulate when I nevt play. (i think that is a likely thing - I consider football too dangerious to play so I’m guessing - in reality I’d prefer to see other sports that I’m likely to play)

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        21 days ago

        i can’t make heads or tails of this reply :P

        “how did the running back avoid the defense”, i’m assuming there should be a “to” in there? who runs back? i can’t parse it…

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              The game most of the world calls “football” is called “soccer” in the US. We have a very popular game we call “football” in the US that is unrelated to “soccer”, instead it is related to rugby (still very different from rugby, but there is a relation)

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    21 days ago

    people want to play with friends, and with gaming getting lonelier, i think people are seekong the parasocial relationships on streaming sites.

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      21 days ago

      or it’s because IRL our gaming interests aren’t something we can talk about. I haven’t had a IRL friend who thinks gaming is cool since I was 15. I’m 40 now. for 25 anytime I bring up my interest in games my ‘friends’ or girlfriends cringe and tell me to STFU about my weird immature stupid interest.

      on twitch and youtube i can find people who share my joy of games and appreciate them and openly talk about their fond memories of playing them and how important they were to their childhood. IRL talking saying shit like that gets you socially shamed and ostracized.

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        21 days ago

        Try to find new friends, or a community where your interests are shared. Anybody who makes fun of another person for their interests is not a good friend.

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        If “friends” or even “girlfriends” tell you it’s cringe, it’s them that’s cringe. Worker-bees with sticks up their arses. Get away from such toxic people.

        I get it, I’m gaming for 40yrs now, and i know how it feels to be ridiculed for it. Fuck them. Especially when it’s coming from people who spend their time watching TV or mindlessly scrolling fuckbook et al. They really should STFU. Gaming always was an art-form, now more than ever. And adults have a right to, nay, the freedom to enjoy their passions guiltfree.

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          Drag plays video games with drag’s partner. Right now @HonouraryDragon@lemmy.nz is playing through Deathloop. We only have one copy, so unfortunately drag can’t invade its game and kick it off a cliff as Julianna, but it’s still fun to watch it play through the early stages. On its first loop after unlocking infusion, it got the Strelak Verso AND the Sepulchra Breteira! Only cooler thing would have been getting the Heritage Gun.

          Anyway drag can’t imagine having a partner who isn’t into games. Luckily, everyone drag has ever fallen in love with enjoyed a variety of entertainment media. Probably because boring people are too busy watching broadcast TV all day to hang out in the cool places.

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            If the partner is enjoying games, and especially the same games, it’s awesome. My wife isn’t as fanatic as i am, but has her own share of game-love. Couldn’t imagine a partner that wouldn’t at least get it either.

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    Makes enough sense, as goofy as it sounds.

    1. No Money. - Videos let me watch games that aren’t worth buying to me along with letting me parse games that look fun enough to buy.
    2. No Time. - Videos can be put on during other chores or tasks, left on as background noise during times where I would absolutely not have enough time to actually play a game.
    3. Skill Issue. - No matter how good I want to be, I’m ultimately just kinda ok at games. Watching higher level players can be a way for me to learn tips and tricks to improve, or they can be a way for me to experience difficulty levels of the game I will never realistically achieve on my own.
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      20 days ago

      You forgot: The videos often have absurd challenges that most gamers would never try, like for example trying to beat Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire with only a physical attacking Abra.

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    You don’t really know it until you stop watching videos for like a week. Suddenly you want to do your favorite things again; try things yourself again.

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    20 days ago

    I watch games about the game in gaming, but I also watch games about my game when I’m not gaming. Therefore by definition my gaming will be less than my watching gaming.

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      What if gaming time is 4 hours, you spend 3/4 of gaming time playing games, and you watch gaming videos for one hour outside gaming time?

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        What if gaming time is 4 hours

        I remember not having kids…

        Now gaming time, if I’m lucky, is like 30 mins a week. Much of that spent patching and remembering wtf I was doing last time I played.

        Not counting playing with them, at least. Though they spend more time watching Minecraft videos than playing Minecraft, so there’s that.

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        You have to watch the video of the game you are playing in order to play the game you are playing. By definition… (if you are video gaming) all bets are off for boardgamers!

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            The point is if you are video gaming you are literally watching a video of yourself playing the game. That is why it is "video"gaming…

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    21 days ago

    Definitely fall into this category. Commentary/ video essays about games are my go-to for background noise.

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      Commentator: “Here’s my 100-hour video essay on what King’s Duty 8, an award-winning game, could have handled differently, with another 40 pages of annotations.”
      Game Developer at 4:50 PM: “Ok whatever, we didn’t fix the cutscene bug but at least it doesn’t crash. Time to go home and not think about video games all weekend.”

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        21 days ago

        Game Production Manager: “Nobody is going home until we get this bug ironed out. You don’t have to come in this weekend if you don’t want, but we won’t renew your contract if you didn’t.”