I’m in the process of getting rid of as much Google-related stuff as I can. Yesterday I already started with moving everything I had stored in Drive (backups and other stuff) to my Nextcloud and the like. Now I want to change my main email, the one I’m going to use for, my accounts here in the fediverse and so on. So I’m looking for alternatives.
At the moment, apart from Gmail, I also have an Outlook (from when it was hotmail), a Proton account (though in view of their CEO’s recent statements I may not keep it) and a new one on Disroot.
Which of the aforementioned services works best for a normie not well versed in cybersecurity like me?
Do you know of any alternatives I’m not aware of (I’ve heard of Tuta, but nothing else)?
had the same question. after some research, I’m planning to switch to posteo.de
Mailbox.org works for me.
Happy Fastmail user here. Has a lot of extra features.
I’m really happy with Posteo. It costs like 1€/month.
No lol
Isn’t this the same Purism company that scammed people using the “pre-order” shenaigan with the Librem 5 “Privacy Smartphone”?
Louis Rossman’s video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKegmu0V75s
Edit: Yeah this is the same Purism scam company, scroll down to the bottom, click the website, it redirects to the webpage where you buy the Librem 5. Lol this company is a scam company.
Okay. I thought they were good.
I just moved away from Proton to Posteo for mail and calendar and Addy.io for email aliases.
I would probably stick with Proton for the time… Gmail isn’t private, Outlook I see as being about the same as Gmail… just blue… and then Disroot from this Reddit post suggests it is not encrypted at rest.
Isn’t Proton a little… fascist?
Still 10 times less fascist than Google.
Andy Yen is also Pro-Ukraine, Pro- Hong Kong protesters, anti Russia censorship.
(And I think he donated money to Ukraine during the Russian Invasion of Ukraine if I recall correctly)
Andy Yen said stupid things, but he isn’t American to know the face that just because Democrats suck, doesn’t mean that Republicans are any better. Its not like Andy Yen went full “Elon” mode and seig heiled, Andy Yen is a right-wing Libertarian that have no idea what he’s talking about.
Andy Yen is a right-wing Libertarian that have no idea what he’s talking about.
That’s enough for me to leave. Add on to the fact that Proton has been severely mismanaged since its inception. He’d rather prioritize crypto wallets and shoving AI into email than getting basic shit working.
I just want to swipe left and right to go back and forth between emails in my inbox ):
Less than Google is, for now. But still bad enough for me to be switching to Tuta
I’m in the process of switching all my stuff to Migadu, you need your own domain though
Who here doesn’t have at least one unused domain?
Care to hand down one? I only have free domains, like stuff that ends with cr.hf or whatever
Domains are pretty inexpensive. I’ve used Namecheap but shop around.
Idk, just thought it was worth mentioning cause it’s not like Proton or Tuta where they have yourname@proton.me or whatever
Oh I was just making a light-hearted joke about the demographic here, it’s definitely still good info to include.
Ah gotcha!
I know you don’t need the validation, but I have 6-7 domains that don’t have email on them at the moment.
migadu seems very cool, especially with that pricing, but i’m kinda concerned about the mail limits.
Edit: Seems like they’re soft limits, looks like i might be moving to migadu
Btw if you’re a student, shoot them an email and you can get a nice discount!
i am, Thank you so much for telling me!
You’re welcome!
I am using Tuta and am very happy with it. I like the feature where you can send encrypted Mails to anyone and they’re unlocked via a password (i dont know if others have it). Important for me at least is, that they’re based in germany.
I’ve been tempted by Tuta, it seems nice but I’m torn over IMAP access
Yeah it sucks but at least they have a good Linux AppImage (sadly no BSD). Their Android client is also fine and is on F-Droid.
I’ve been using mailbox.org for a while, and I’m happy with it. It costs 1€ per month at it’s lowest. They have also been developing an open source video conferencing thing (included in the 1€), which from my experience is much better than jitsi.
Can anyone comment on the viability and difficulty of self hosting email?
It’s the only service I don’t self-hosted, although I do backup my email on my home server. Email protocols don’t tolerate downtime, if your server is temporarily unreachable you won’t get messages and people will probably assume the email address/domain isn’t even valid.
@photonic_sorcerer @NONE_dc It’s not something you’ll get perfect straight out of the box, but receive only is fairly straightforward. The difficulties come when you want to send something that won’t get immediately rejected or thrown into the spam box.
If your server goes down you’ll miss incoming emails, and IMO residential ISP and power service isn’t reliable enough for your main email address. If mail can’t get delivered people get the impression you gave them a fake email address, which can be more than embarrassing.
I use Fastmail with ten custom domains.
I was going to switch to proton but im glad I never out in the effort.
I use iCloud as I’m in deep with the Apple ecosystem but opened Tuta and have been happy with it so far!
Tuta is fine, but very basic.
The stuff with Proton… It depends on what you need. Just an alternative to degoogle your life, it’ll work for now, but they may slide into a more pro Broligarchy stance in years to come. For some people, they’re still a little too invasive for what they want.
Email is inherently insecure, so its best to lock down a few and just fluidly transition around as you need.