IDK about other people but it makes me feel sick to the stomach being federated with such content. I don’t really have any problems with Lemm.ee as a whole but I feel like having an uncritical Nazi salute on the network goes against everything Blahaj stands for.
Lemm.ee admin here. Sorry about that, y’all. We took further action and removed the mods from that community. More context in my post here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/22091983/12982889
That tracks.
Is lemm.ee conservative? I had no idea… not sarcasm
Less conservative and more… Allows different opinions as long as they aren’t outright dangerous.
Plenty of left leaning people on lemm.ee, myself included. Conservatives chose to make a community here because they felt it was a good place for freedom of speech, which it is. If you choose to create a socialist community, you’re welcome too. If you’re a tankie and say everyone from the Baltics deserves to be raped to death for leaving the Soviet union… Then we do not welcome you.
Uhh I’m in the same boat… I wouldn’t call myself a “conservative” … I just was looking for an instance that wasn’t completely full. If there’s some Nazi shit going on here, I’m out.
There is conservative community? On Lemmy???
Several, just not very active.
what are conservatives doing on Lemmy anyways??
That’s how it starts
The point of the fediverse is that they have to maintain server costs on their own and the upside is we are not forced to swim in the same pool that they piss in if we don’t want to.
I really thought all the blahaj communities were heavily left leaning. What was the community?
I believe OP is talking about /c/conservative on the lemm.ee instance (not sure if I can share this, not intending to brigade, and I am intentionally not directly linking there)
Oh okay, because the way it’s formatted I thought it was a blahaj community and was really surprised
That’s not a blahaj community. It’s hosted on another instance.
In any case, the mods and poster are banned now, and the community has been blocked
the mods and poster are banned now, and the community has been blocked
Huzzah!
I try not to block the conservative communities, but they have been extra obnoxious lately. I guess people are finding Lemmy, and with them come humans.
would love if you shared your blocklist with me, so I can block any I haven’t already 😄
There’s an ancient mod who doesn’t post anymore, a bot, and a fascist mod. That’s who they are now.
I just saw a report on it and I’ve removed the post.
Thanks. My concern is being federated with such a community in the first place. It is a shame there isn’t a community-wide way to block just one community from an instance.
I can do that. The fact the mods left it up for so long is reason enough
Does that mean i have to find a new instance? I thought our admins were good
She is only blocking the community, not the instance
I don’t know whether the admins are aware of it. If a mod rejected the report, the admins wouldn’t even see it. Might be an idea to ask them?
The admins of lemm.ee are well aware of that community. From what I understand they choose to allow mods to run their communities how they see fit and rarely decide to interfere with them. Doesn’t seem great, seems like a system that’ll let shit like this happen over and over in the future.
It was the nazi salute specifically that I was referring to
Oh
Watching the naive optimism of mods/admins who believe that “open spaces” will “sort themselves out” has become frustrating.
You can’t be a “bastion of free speech” or hold a philosophy of “everyone is welcome to the table” unless you want your communities high jacked. Bad actors are bad actors and no amount of positivity or rule prescription will stop them. And never, ever underestimate how much damage just 3-5 people can do. Hell just 1 person.
Bans and defederation exist for a reason. Use them, folks.
I agree, and I personally would not hold it against the lemmy.blahaj.zone admins if they chose to defederate lemm.ee on that basis. Admins need to stand up and be willing to “interfere” with communities to uphold order and standards or the instance becomes a toxic cesspit very quickly.
Fun fact: That community’s founder was banned from .world for spreading csam.
That fact isn’t very fun.
I think we dont need conservative communities on lemmy, we can do without them
Alternative view points are good to have, don’t want a echo chamber. That said, being a Nazi, supporting them, or attacking trans, LQBTQ folks isn’t a difference of opinion ; it’s a fundamental flaw of the far right, treating humans as less than such. That is not an agreeable stance.
Modern conservatism is a cancer that deserves and needs to be squashed out. It has an outright dangerous and seductive quality to it. It took me years to get over it many people don’t ever get out of it.
So echo chamber argument isn’t a good one. If anything modern conservatism is itself an echo chamber, that squashes all opposing viewpoints.
Honestly, modern conservatism is largely indistinguishable from Nazi-ism at this point anyway.
I’m ok with conservatives that aren’t conspiracy-driven. They can’t seem to self-moderate though. Anti-vax, and odd religious beliefs that they choose to impose on others is where I would draw the line.
Lots of people on the AskConservatives sub reddit for instance are against a lot of what has occurred in the last month.
I don’t know how to possibly moderate a community like that.
Are you OK with conservatives that are anti-LGBT+, for example? Conservative is an umbrella that includes a lot of bigotry, I’m not sure we should really pretend that is worth defending or tolerating, particularly with regards to the context of the pro-LGBT+ Blahaj instance, who hosts many people who are victimized by conservative ideology. Sure, conservative lemmy instances exist, but you are in the Blahaj meta community, and the question is how we should relate to those communities and instances that oppose our existence …
Conservatism is inherently anti-trans. I’d rather not have anyone on lemmy argue against my right to self determination.
A lot of conservatives don’t care about gender.
That’s not enough they have to be okay with or even in support of transgender rights. Not caring means they’ll either do nothing or work against us. I will not stand for either.
‘Don’t care’ often means that they don’t want to acknowledge our existence and thus block measures that make our existence possible like trans healthcare or anti discrimination laws. Effectively it’s the same as being anti-trans.
I’m not. They’re the ones outlawing abortion and trying to eliminate trans people. They’re the ones that are okay with discrimination and bigotry. They’re the ones okay with rounding up immigrants and sending them to camps. There is no reason to tolerate their intolerance and their ideology is based upon oppressing anyone that isn’t male, rich, and white.
.world also has a Conservative comm just as disgusting as the .ee one
I don’t know why neither has been removed, in both comms nearly every single post is well into the negatives haha
I just reported that there’s no moderation on that community.
Pretty sure a majority of .world blocks them or hate downvotes them.
I think modern conservatism is a sign of deficient cognitive ability and lack of empathy, but I don’t think we should outright block them. That’s the sort of thing they advocate. If they’re celebrating a nazi salute, sure. Let’s get rid of them. But we should be better than they. Of course, this makes me sound like a lib when I’m actually a Leftist, but I’m just trying not to discriminate.
Rightwing people: you suck for delivering us this living hell.
As someone who used to be stuck in that I couldn’t agree more. It absolutely is a lack of empathy and cognitive ability, but also it persists because they think it’s cool and accepted. I know that’s why I followed it as long as I did. So I say block it. It doesn’t do anyone any good and the less people see it the less they’ll think its cool.
The biggest issue is that EVERY community they’ve formed in the past has ended up as nothing more than an echo chamber for them to justify their OWN views and eventually censoring ANY form of external input.
maybe the key is forcing them to interact with regular people who don’t like them, idk. i’m old and tired and getting older and tireder by the day. just force them to face consequences for their bullshit over and over until they get it. make a shitty community? disband the community. make a shitty meme? remove the shitty meme. be a shitty person? ban the shitty person.
maybe the key is shooting them all to Mars.
i mean sure, i’m down
maybe the key is forcing them to interact with regular people who don’t like them
Best I can give you is resigned condescension.
dorks, all of them.
