• StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I’m not sure about you but I don’t go around saying the N word or paying people in developing nations to hold up incitements towards very real genocides. Felix isn’t a Nazi but he directly contributed to the climate that allowed them to come out of the woodwork and act as they are doing now.

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      Based on what an ex girlfriend told me after her study abroad in Sweden, the N word (at least back in the early 2010s) just isn’t considered as offensive there. She remembers being at a party where they played some kind of “secret spy” game they’d dubbed “n——r president” and being shocked about it

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        Not really sure how to say it but I think your ex was just a racist who hung out with racists. I know a few Swedish people through a friend who’s gf is from there and they would deffo take issue with it.

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          She was pretty far from being racist, which is why she was shocked that they called it that. Again she was on a study abroad and went to a party, these weren’t people she like regularly hung out with. Also another commenter confirmed that that was a common name for that game a while back.

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        That card game isn’t called that anymore, but 20 years ago it was the standard name for a well-known card game.

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        It’s probably not even thought about due to chattel slavery not being a thing in Sweden. There was slavery in some of its colonies, but it was never a part of their mainland society.

        Couple that with the racial diversity of Sweden having fewer than 1% black people, there’s so little representation that any offense probably isn’t even being heard.

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          Sweden having fewer than 1% black people

          Sorry, where are you getting your statistics from? The 1800s?

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            Wikipedia has it at 1.5-2% but that’s only for people born in Africa who immigrated to sweden, it doesn’t include natural born citizens, so that’s probably where they got their info from.

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      I mean I have said the n word (no hard r) in the last 10 years but I said it to a black persons face it’s not the proudest moment of my life probably peak cringe and it ruined my night. I was also ready to take all the social backlash that comes with it (getting punched in the face or worse.) I don’t hate pewdiepie but there is a reason why edgy humor was usually on late at night on tv and there were still limits to what you could say and do.

      The internet kinda blew all that shit out the water and looking back idk if it was a good thing.

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          No not as an insult. Just I got called it and I just said it back as I said no hard r. I was intoxicated and going through some mental health shit. I’m admitting it to prove a point that it’s very different when you say shit online then when you say it in real life, I would could of been hurt and would of deserved it as well but I talked to the guy I said it to and it turned out ok. I also didn’t monetise me using the word to an audience of prepubescent children.

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              Because it is different and I’m not saying what I did was ok. I’m using it as an example of problematic behaviour that I exhibited in the real world. I’m not proud of what I did but I also can’t change the past. I could also be a coward and pretend I’m some kind of saint which I’m not. I’m not defending my what I did I’m also not defending people using the n word. As I said it’s something I did and something I knew was wrong the second I did it but as I said earlier I was ready to accept the social consequences of what I said to somebody.

              Anyways I used the story of some very bad behaviour I engaged in as an anecdote to show that when people act shitty in real life there are actual consequences mainly the possibility of getting punched. The person I said it to and his friends decided not to beat the shit out of me and I’m greatful for that because I would of deserved it.

              I don’t go around using the n word and I have no idea why the fuck I said it but yeah two days of drinking not sleeping will do weird shit to your brain.

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                It did not seem that you thought it was an issue in previous comments but this comment makes more sense to me even if I don’t fully agree. Appreciate the explanation.

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                  It’s fine I’m not here asking people for forgiveness or for people to defend shitty behaviour which I engaged in the real world. That’s why I find it strange that people will defend pewdiepie when he did the same shit and monetised it and did it all behind the safety of a first world country and a keyboard.

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                    That I definitely agree with. For some reason people go “well I’m allowed to do this“ without any appreciation for the context of who he is and the reach he has. That dude has never apologized for anything in his life lol

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                Ok? Why are you grouping a whole bunch of people together for something I did, I’m not speaking on behalf of a community……

                Also I find it weird that people would ask my why I would admit this. It just says to me that some people are willing to hide the shitty stuff they do instead of confronting it and actually dealing with the source of the problem.