No.
No, no, no, no, no!
Is she looking at Feinstein and thinking “well, I don’t need to be propped up yet, so I should still be able to run the country!”
I don’t care on which side of the aisle these oldies sit. They do not represent the will of a people who are largely younger than they are by two decades.
No, she’s looking at her and her husband’s bank accounts and thinking “well, I don’t need to be propped up yet, so I can continue to be grossly corrupt and get even richer”
Well, she is the queen of congressional insider trading…
She was # 6 in 2021, # 1 to 5 were all Republicans.
Then things didn’t go as well in 2022
So how about we start paying attention to Republican tradings? 👍
Republicans are masters of messaging. They latch onto one thing for one person and pound it over and over again. The left accepts that these are bad things (they are) but won’t whatabout enough about the Republicans that do it worse, so this becomes Pelosi’s image while those that do it worse are unknown.
While you are right this has zero to do with whatever party you want to idolize it’s a problem for all sides we need to focus on all of them, none of these clowns should be able to make trades, they are in positions where they actually can shape the outcomes of their trades that’s fucking ridiculous
And on topic there needs to be some realistic term limits for these jackasses especially when they start to get older, nothing wrong with being old but if you are running a country and you get stuck staring at cameras in a daze it’s time to go… ffs most people I know can’t wait to retire and would do so even earlier if they could yet these goblins are slopping it up at the trough
This is a class issue always has been
Never said it wasn’t the case, I just pointed out the Pelosi is always the target when the fact is she’s not the worst and there’s zero attention put on any Republicans regarding that.
Explain how. Can you cite any trades that are particularly suspicious?
You’re basically espousing right wing talking points that they came up with to divert attention from the republicans who are actively insider trading. There are plenty of things to criticize pelosi for rather than this stupid argument which isn’t backed up by facts.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-07/pelosi-s-husband-locked-in-5-3-million-from-alphabet-options?srnd=premium#xj4y7vzkg Paul Pelosi is forever making suspiciously well-timed trades. When it became a scandal, they intentionally sold Nvidia shares at a loss to try to end scrutiny of that trade.
It’s not a Republican talking point. I’m as far left as they come and I’m offended by her corruption (even if Joe Manchin’s family seems worse).
So, he exercised his options he held for quite a while, a “week before House panel considered antitrust bills”. What exactly was the insider information? And, he just exercised the options to hold the stock. Not sure how that’s evidence of insider trading
She predates the baby boomers. She was in diapers when pearl harbor was bombed. Two decades younger should be the mandatory retirement age for politicians.
Younger by two decades is still mid 60s/retirement age
Hi, dem here. WE DONT WANT FUCKING ELDRITCH GODS REPRESENTING US anymore. Term limits. Term limits. Term limits.
Term limits and age limits.
The age thing I’m less interested in, but competency tests and health checks probably more so. Think they’d do the same thing but more precisely (some people shit out in their 70s, some people stay sharp until they’re 100)
The age limit thing is definitely a tradeoff. We would lose people like Pelosi and Trump (and Biden), but we’d also lose Bernie Sanders.
Good. There’s tons of younger people who stand for the same things that Bernie stood for.
Anyone you’d like to shout out specifically, nows the perfect op
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The Squad only exists in social media, in reality and practice they are run of the mill neolibs
And probably a lot less delusional.
Some people shouldn’t be eligible in their 30s. I don’t know how we decide it though is the issue, and I don’t trust that some conservative won’t gain power and say “anyone who thinks corporafuons shouldn’t be regulated is mentally ill” won’t gain power.
But can you trust that they will remain sharp for 4 years (or whatever the term of the position they’re running for)?
I’m in her district. This has given me a possibly-crazy idea. What if I registered to run against her? Hear me out.
I don’t think that I could win. She’s been in the game for so long, I have no illusions. But, registering and announcing a campaign to challenge her might result in some national publication contacting me for a quote. I might be able to get a line in said publication and get people talking about it.
“Nancy Pelosi should get out of the way of younger generations and let those who came after her have a seat at the table.”
I’d appreciate feedback on the value of doing something like this. Also, the likelihood that it would have the desired outcome. Also, thoughts on how this might be done.
I’ve been kicking this idea around since this morning when I first saw this. I’m increasingly thinking that it sounds like a good idea. Thoughts?
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We need a competitor. Please do it.
Running in such a prominent campaign would probably make your life suck. Pelosi’s seasoned team would probably go through your entire life with a fine-toothed comb and spin anything remotely negative about you to make it seem like you were a serial killer. The Republicans, meanwhile, might throw money into supporting you without caring if you wanted their “help” just to make Pelosi’s life hell.
There are probably already real challengers who actually want the job who you could support instead. If you donated to them and volunteered for them, they might make enough noise to at least get some headlines. And, you wouldn’t have to stick your own neck out.
have you heard of Shahid Buttar
Apparently, I had. The first two links on a search had already been visited. That’s discouraging. Thanks!
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Here’s what you do, announce that you’re running, say your peace, and when you’re surfing that publicity wave, announce that you’re running for governor of California. No flaw!
“Nancy Pelosi should get out of the way of younger generations and let those who came after her have a seat at the table.”
Don’t stop with her. Make your platform about Glitch McConnell, Dianne “The Wraith” Feinstein, Chuck “Touch” Grassley, and every other member of Congress who can’t even claim to be a boomer because they were born before the end of WW2. Their generation built the America we have now; how’s it working out for y’all?
I wish you would. Get your friends to do it too… “Nancy Pelosi Faces a Dozen Primary Challengers” might draw some more attention.
We need to put an age limit on political offices
I think we should also include term limits for these offices in addition to the age limit.
You can’t be president for more than 8 years, but you can be in the same political office more or less for almost 40? That doesn’t make a lot of sense to me lol.
Yes, term limits are a much better solution as age restrictions can be a slippery slope.
It would also make you useless as your term comes to an end. Political capital and IOUs are the currency in the capitol
Can’t we just vote for younger candidates?
Doesn’t make sense to subvert the will of the people when they clearly support this.
Also, her age isn’t what makes her shit. She’s a corporate democrat just looking out for different rich people.
You’re absolutely right.
Collectively we vote for the representation we deserve.
Maybe in a true democracy. No more gerrymandered districts, ranked choice voting, and term limits would be a good start. Let’s kill citizens united while at it.
In a true democracy, we’d have direct voting.
Which I’m a huge fan of. Not sure why we’d vote for people who won’t agree with us on everything when we can just vote ourselves and get true representation.
I’d prefer a republic, what the hell do I know about complex foreign policies with the relationship between Sudan and Egypt, or which tax policy will spur economic growth?
That’s fine. Just don’t complain when the people you elect go against what you think is right.
Personally, I think direct voting would result in people voting for the matters they care about, while ignoring the ones they don’t.
Nah, I blame the Republicans for most of the nations current woes since, you know, they tend to be behind most of them.
Plus, how can you see how the average American acts and think we’re still good for a democracy? We need a more fitting class of people to rule, as Adams and Hamilton envisioned it.
I really think we need to amend the constitution to allow a true democratic vote of no confidence for all federally elected positions.
I disagree. Fundamentally we have the final authority to elect our representation. Collectively we decide (and are ultimately responsible for) who is elected to office. Districts don’t vote, and corporations don’t vote. The people do.
It is the collective responsibility of those not disenfranchised or otherwise excluded from the political system to rectify those problems. Failing to address those problems (or any political problem) isn’t a failure of the politicians–it’s a failure of us, as a collective, to choose the appropriate lawmakers. Especially when we repeatedly elect the same people over and over.
I know it sounds naive to frame the system this way. But fundamentally the political system operates under the collective authority of voters.
I’m angry at her, but more angry at the voters that reelect her. Get new blood into these positions.
Two party system that the party gets to choose who runs.
While that does suck, there are options in the primary. So you can vote her out without voting for a Republican, if that’s anathema/unrealistic in her district.
Only if there is a primary. There often isn’t much of a challenge to the incumbent.
Also, Bernie Sanders. If they don’t want one particular person to win the primary, they’ll make sure it works out that way.
Should be anathema in every district.
Can we not be ruled by geriatrics anymore?
Fuck this horrible bitch. She fucking enriches herself via a marriage of her position and decision making with the stock market.
Fucking disgusting, no fucking politician that votes on policy should be allowed to trade stocks.
GET THE FUCK OUT AND STAY OUT YOU GERIATRIC FUCKING CORRUPT TRAITOR
Settle down, trumper.
Nothing to do with Trumper, he’s right. Just like Trump should go to prison along with anyone who helped him on Jan 6
You agree with this crap that person posted? --> (GET THE FUCK OUT AND STAY OUT YOU GERIATRIC FUCKING CORRUPT TRAITOR) NO. He/she/they are NOT right.
You can dislike Nancy Pelosi and not be a Trumper. They are not mutually exclusive.
Yeah. I hate Nancy Pelosi. I hate Trump MORE, but I hate him more than just about anyone. Pelosi is still a garbage person.
Okay, but “traitor”? Let’s not devalue the word by throwing it around at everyone who engages in systemic graft.
Sure. But the statement made by the user I was responding to was pure trumper BS.
I don’t see how what they said has anything to do with supporting Trump, Pelosi is corrupt and too old. You should focus your anger on actual Trump cultists.
They accused her of being a traitor. Read the all caps portion of the trumpist rant.
I’m a lifelong dem and I generally agree with the sentiment, minis the name-calling on his part. Her shady stock market trades are problematic at best, and we need young blood in the game. I’m hoping for a strong contender against her and I think many folks feel the same.
You’re what’s wrong with politics these days. You don’t have to be fully locked in to one side you know?
f*ck trumpism
There really needs to be age limits on government positions.
Term limits, too.
Trading limits, too.
Well, I’d say some sort of blind trust. That way, the only way they can influence their investments is making good decisions for the overall economy. Toss in some restrictions to require they avoid boomer-chip stocks. (Ie, s&p500 type investments would be okay, but not msft or any specific company. ETFs in general are too…easy to get around though.
Yeah, I agree but the problem with that is they can still time macro events that affect index funds and ETFs when they know about something big before the public, like covid.
It should be managed and timed by someone independent and the trust just pays a salary or allowance on a schedule.
That’s the point of the BLIND trust.
They’re not making the trades. They don’t even see where things are. they can’t time trade’s because they don’t make investment decisions. At all.
They can still invest by dumping cash into an account and somebody managing it for them. Like the 401k managers the poors get :)
We do have age limits, but only minimum age. Any time there’s a min age, there needs to be a corresponding max age.
But then again Bernie Sanders has done a lot to help “wake up” the minds of many millennials and zoomers.
He’s also too old imo
And some psychiatric tests, to see if she still has all the necessary faculties for decisions. The cognitive decay is as sure as death and taxes
Stocks aren’t going to inside trade themselves! Get out of the way you old cunt. Hopefully someone primaries her and the people in SF vote her out. Still worse to have a Republican in the seat but jfc this is infuriating.
another canidate question what has your past politics done for me locally? even nationally? if the answer is unsure or maybe some tv propaganda answer that was fed to you then why do they deserve votes
You don’t think Pelosi has done anything to advance the Democratic agenda? I don’t live in her district, so I’m not sure about locally, but I do think she’s been highly influential nationally, and I personally think she has done a good job.
That being said, her district is safe Democratic even if she doesn’t run. She should retire, enjoy the rest of her life with her family and leave feeling good about her accomplishments. It’s someone else’s job to carry on the work.
She’s the reason democrats won the 2018 midterms for starters.
She also helped pass loads of legislation in Obama and Biden’s first term.
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I don’t even like her but I’m willing to admit the fact lol
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Agree to disagree. Her strategy for the house was fantastic, focusing on popular ideas like health care and avoiding dangerous losing topics like others in the party wanted. She’s great at being an election whip.
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Absolutely
That was half a decade ago.
Correct.
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Well we sure know she used her position to advance her wallet
But yeah go off, defend this geriatric corrupt traitor. She’s not fucking special she’s a literal enemy of the people due to said corruption
Keeping it classy, I see.
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Whatever happened to “just fuck off to your third home in the Hamptons and become a philanthropist” retirement path for these people?
She and her family rich af. Just pass the torch and support some other upstart. Fucking power hungry assholes.
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TOO OLD
She’s not the worst, but as I was reading, I thought she was dead until I made it to “seeks re-election”…
That’s what the plastics are for… they never die…
HEY REPUBLICANS:
I’m as left leaning as they come and this old bitch should retire. This is one of the many many many differences between us. All you care about is winning, like this is some type of fucking football game, and I care about is what’s best for our country.
Apparently not in California, home to both Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein.
muther fucker, get these old farts outta here.
