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Let’s see who’s side Biden is truly on.
It ain’t the unions
See rail workers.
Its a lot easier to support the UAW than the rail workers. Not because of the justice of the positions, but because rail workers striking paralyzes the entire country.
Biden could have forced the companies into more concessions. I mean, things like sickdays and having adequate coverage is just… good business…
Or if the company refused to play ball, nationalized the companies under certain defende acts, instituted the reform (both in staffing, and safety compliance, and a few other areas,). But no. He elected to shaft labor- because the oligarchs couldn’t have that.
If you think breaking a strike sets a bad precedent, what do you think nationalizing an entire industry would do?
It’s been done before. it was wartime, last time. but it’s been done. do I think it’s a good idea? no. Do I think that the things the rail workers were asking for (and didn’t get.) were… reasonable…? absolutely. it would likely have been better for the business in the long term- albeit with lower short term profits.
My point being… Biden could have gone to bat for the employees… and reformed the industry. if it’s so critical, while are we allowing idiots who fail to realize that they actually need to staff appropriate to the time constraints, rather than making their employees work shit loads of overtime and cut out safety checks?
That’s the whole point. Solidarity is solidarity. They wouldn’t strike if the rail barons dropped even a pittance. It’s the 2020s but it might as well be the 1920s.
That’s the point.
Id rather support rail workers, the UAW is a pretty shit tier union that’s far too large for it’s own good.
The rail union got everything they asked for. The admin followed up. They just did a shit job of marketing it and the news doesn’t give a shit about feel-good news… just FUD click shit.
And the administration will likely stay out of this.
He literally gave them what they wanted
You’ll enjoy this read (or not depending on how personally invested you are in thinking Biden is anti-union)
https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid
I mean tbf he then gave them their demands, just without paralyzing the economy.
Edit: Apparently he didn’t.
no… he didn’t. the unions wanted paid sick days. Like. you know. pretty much every one except walmart and fast food workers. yes, only 4 unions were holding out, but all the unions wanted sick days. Also, keep in mind, the people in question are highly skilled with masters degrees. That’s part of the reason why it’s ‘hard’ to recruit for those positions- that and the absolutely batshit crazy working conditions.
The things they were asking for would have been considered standard for almost any other sector at that level of skill… and really is just basic good-business-sense to give. But, like most stupid and greedy corps, they’re more worried about short term profits being hurt by the overhead of actually staffing adequately than they were about… employee health, the safety of their operations and literally everyone in the public nominally adjacent to their rail ways and yards. The paid sick days would barely even register on their quarterly reports.
FYI, Biden did end up getting them their sick days. He never stopped pressuring the companies. There was just very little reporting on it so I don’t think anyone found out. I thought the same until someone corrected me and linked what I’m putting below
They got all that. Media didn’t cover it because “President’s pressure gets rail workers demands after long process” doesn’t get clicks.
yes, only 4 unions were holding out, but all the unions wanted sick days.
And those 4 unions represented the majority of rail workers.
Biden broke the strike setting precedent, then spent months negotiating with the companies in order to get a small percentage of the sick days the employees need. All of this when he could have just forced to rail companies who have raked in billion in windfall profits to capitulate to the union. Biden is no friend to labor
He could have used he situation to get laws passed that required minimum leave fornall workers at the national level, effectively giving the workers what they wanted instead of half asking it.
Lol no he couldn’t. There aren’t 50 Senators for any of that, let alone 60.
You were right the first time
https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid
People cared enough to get mad but not enough to follow up
We saw with the rail strikes.
So the President will get the union everything it asked for?
Only after the media extensively covers him breaking the strike, giving him negative press for that, but no good press for actually achieving the Union’s goals.
I swear the Democrats are laughably bad at handling the media. It’s truly ridiculous.
Biden has no say in this because the workers are not bound by Congress.
However, Biden is clearly pro-union
https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid
Everyone thinks their demands are ridiculous but turn a blind eye to truly ridiculous executive compensation.
All we know for sure, the $100k truck will become standard as the cost will flow to the consumer instead of coming out of executives for their failures.
If they could have charged 100k for a truck, they would already be doing so.
Paying workers properly doesn’t impact this.
Thank you for saying this. The price is set at what the market will bear.
Yeah, the cost to make something doesn’t determine the price it will be sold it. It determines if it’s worth making and selling it at all. And it’s not even based on the current cost or price, but projected ones.
Fully loaded trim levels of the big 3’s trucks do reach towards the 100k price level, if not more
When I made my comment, I assumed people knew this already. “Becoming the standard” was meant to mean the price of standard trims will reach this level in the years ahead.
With all three automakers reporting record or near-record profits, the union was trying to recapture many benefits they had been forced to give up more than a decade ago when the companies were cash starved and on the brink of bankruptcy.
The unions gave up a bunch of concessions when the automakers needed it most. Now that they are flush with cash and its the workers are in a place of need, it’s time to take those concessions back. Fuck forced overtime as well.
The partial strike is an interesting move and definitely has the automakers stutter-step a bit, because they had their part stockpiles and narratives ready for an immediate full blown strike. The stories the car manufacturers ran in media sayimg “The union isn’t making any more parts so cars are expensive waaaah” won’t hold much weight for now.
I wonder whether the UAW is planning to eye inventory levels to best time a full-blown strike when it hurts most, waiting for employer lockouts or waiting for the car manufacturers to piss them off enough.
Solidarity
Forever
"This is not what I was expecting to hear tonight,” said Jeff Schuster, global head of automotive for GlobalData, an industry consultant. “It’s not the way that causes maximum pain. Maybe it’s a sign they’re getting close and they’re just trying to ramp up the pressure. This is a very unconventional way of negotiating and striking. I think he’s doing a good job of creating confusion.”
This union head may be the best one I’ve ever seen. This kind of “surgical striking” to move discussions forward is brilliant.
Wait, what about other factories, like Nissan, Honda, etc?
They will see these guys and gals win, see what they get in a better and fairer contract, and want that themselves. Union strong!
They aren’t unionized. Neither is Tesla. So all they will succeed in doing is making American automotive less competitive and more expensive.
How dare those workers strike for better conditions just to hurt the American economy!
