That Tencent investment money is coming home to roost.
Archived link so we’re not sending any traffic Reddit’s way.
I love the “if you’re not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about” admin response downthread, too. They’ve really gone full mask-off over there, haven’t they?
They have their own happy cheering crowd, so nothing to worry about from their pov.
So many ads on that link
Back when I used to mod Reddit, starting maybe a year or so ago we’d occasionally get users who would be inexplicably targeted by the auto-filter.
The accounts weren’t new, weren’t shadowbanned, weren’t using any filter-triggering words (that I could guess at), and an examination via Pushshift didn’t reveal any kind of spammy behavior. Nonetheless, their posts would get silently removed by the site-wide filter, and frequently we wouldn’t even know until they modmailed us.
Now I can’t help but wonder if this was a result of a beta-test of something like this. Something they had done had invisibly lowered their “Reddit credit”, leaving us as confused as them.
I mentioned lemmy in a comment reply 6 months or so ago, and it very obviously had an effect on my account. Akin to a shadowban but not quiet. I think they’ve been doing this for a while. It’s just public info now…
I got verified as a webcomic creator on r/funny long ago, and over the years it’s been a 50/50 shot whether my original content would get removed by an autofilter, at which point I would reach out to a mod, at which point my submission would maybe be restored hours after I submitted it, with no chance of getting any actual visibility because it never had a real chance when sorting by “new. “
Sometimes a mod tells me I can resubmit, but the timing of a submission matters, and if you’re outside of a good timeslot when you get permission to resubmit, it means less of a chance your submission will do well.
But if you risk waiting for another day, there’s no guarantee it won’t just happen again, and the mod that gave you permission to resubmit might not be working that day, and then you run the risk of some other mod thinking you’re a spammer, and you having to work it out again with them at the risk of a ban.
EDIT: According to at least one measure, my credit under this new system isn’t bad at all, so I’m without explanation for why this keeps happening.
Blackmirror is supposed to be dark fiction not a fucking blueprint
Two words: too late.
More words: Black Mirror will be the least of our concerns in 10yrs at this rate.
Damn that thread got removed quickly
If there is ever an investigation, even if just journalistic, I hope you make sure you and others who have experienced this report and contribute to it even if it’s just as personal anecdotes. Reddit has been getting away with a lot of bullshit because they have all the power to hide it under the rug.
Though I’m glad Reddit is now feeling so confident about the abuses it’s performing that it’s willing to admit them, if only partially. Something peeking out from under the rug is a pretty big hint.
I doubt there’s going to be an investigation or anything. As scummy as it is, it’s perfectly within their rights as a private company. People should refuse to give business to such a company though, but they (probably) didn’t do anything illegal.
No official investigation- but a curious journalist could still document it and sour Reddit’s reputation enough to sink them even faster.
I have tons of explanation-based comments removed/shadow removed for no apparent reason.
Wonder if that’s why
The longer the comment the more likely to hit some sort of automod rule.
Include a phone number? Shortlink? E-mail address? the word “sremoved”? Were you talking about “Suicide Squad” or “Camp Kill Yourself”? All those and so much more can hit something and depending on configuration your post could be removed or filtered.
Your comment triggered the Lemmy slur filter lol
Good to see thats one a lot of folks fuck up.Makes me feel less dumb.
Reddit has been employing all kinds of sketchy shit for years - including some fairly invasive behavioural fingerprinting techniques. And a lot of it has been abused by “powermods” who figured out how to game it.
Good chance these people simply said something that someone didn’t agree with and got flagged by some prick with a runaway ego.
I wonder if it’s admin abuse at the corporate level. I experienced a few very strange situations on Reddit that simply never made sense.
I got permabanned from /r/politics for using the word “retardation”, despite the fact I was using the technical/scientific definition of the term (the action of delaying or slowing the progress or development of something.) , and specifically referring to the entire US political instution.
I told the mods this is a word in the English language that is often used outside the denegratory sense, and that I was clearly not in any way targeting those with special needs. They called me “ableist” in response (“that word is ableist and there are no exceptions.” )
Like… Wtf? I used to literally hang out and defend special needs kids regularly back when I went to public school. But sure… I guess I’m ableist. The entire situation simply made no sense. I had contributed heavily to that sub over many, many years. I get the impression they were looking for a reason to get rid of me.
Eh. That seems more like typical out-of-control jargon and labeling ideology than any admin malfeasance. It’s unfortunately something I’ve seen a few times - I had several debates with people who likewise insisted that even using it in the sense of ‘to slow something down’ was improper, or that using potentially insulting words in any context caused “harm”. It’s a mindset that goes beyond any Reddit issues.
We’ve heard from you that dealing with spam is taking up more of your time, so the goal of this update is to help catch spammy and abusive users at a faster rate so that you can spend more time engaging with your communities and redditing.
So instead of restoring the tools the mods originally had that helped control spam effectively, reddit is rolling out their own ‘tools’ that will undoubtedly be less accessible, harder to use, and only available in one specific way. Because fuck everyone who isn’t a reddit admin.
it’s sad to see reddit decay like this. 10 years ago it was amazing, and it’s been a slow decent from then to now.
It is much easier to control a score. Karma completely depends on user arbitrary choices. Scores are optimized to satisfy reddit KPIs
Hahahaaha wait, so like, they’re basically applying something that sounds an awful fucking lot like the CCP’s social credit score thingy to all of Reddit’s user data and metadata…?
Jesus tapdancing christ. I’m happier by the day since I bailed on Reddit.
Jesus’s middle name is Fucking, not tapdancing.
Behold, Jesus was feeling particularly agile and motivated that day, so for that single moment in eternity, verily He said unto His holy self, “Holy self, today I’ma be a fucker AND a tapdancer.” And lo, so it was. Hence the recent confusion.
But can he do both at the same time? Yes. Yes he can.
It’s Jesus H. Christ and the H is for Harold, like his dad. As in, “Our Father, who art in heaven, Harold be thy name.”
When ridiculing the dystopian mess that is the “social credit score” system in China it is good to always remember that it is called like that because it was based of the “credit score” system used in many libertarian countries, where it is regularly used to deny access to essentials of societal life, like housing, energy, and communication.
If you use Lemmy like the news aggregator reddit started as then it is basically the same thing.
Except not so anonymous. You can look up who voted how on what.
Only matters if your account is tied to anything personal. I use lemmy as anonymous as possible. IDC if anyone sees how I vote or what I say on here because I’m not tieing any personal info to it. Can do the same on Reddit but it feels more necessary here for some reason.
Don’t give a shit. It’s my instance. I’ll kill it if I want.
what do they need beyond karma though? how isn’t this just karma?
The Fediverse has reddit to thank for it’s growth.
Twitter as well. Two of the major social media platforms fucking up this badly roughly at the same time was nothing I would have ever bet any amount of money on, and the best advertising the fediverse could ask for.
Fucking up just before a certain 2024 election deciding the fate of democracy, no less
Eh, at this point every election is deciding the fate of Democracy, the US is kinda hanging on by threads.
fate of democracy
Even the British millionaires don’t think the U.S. is a full democracy
It seems like Reddit is dying faster. But it’s just Elon’s team being really good at hiding that using algorithms and our psychology.
Putin’s reelecrion?
They already have this. I was denied a request for an abandoned subreddit because my social credit score was too low (effectively).
I had a 15 year old account shadowbanned from a community I contributed to daily because I don’t register emails on Reddit accounts. Apparently that was more important than my record of thousands of productive comments.
If I may suggest. Cross post Lemmy posts to Reddit. Even in the apps you can share the url to a post. Time to make those being abused on Reddit aware there is another place for them.
That assumes a Lemmy link doesn’t just instantly get you shadowbanned
Truth. I posted about Lemmy when the whole app fiasco was going on and my posts were removed.
People such as yourself are the reason I’m here, wouldn’t have known about the Lemmyverse without all you folks spreading the good word.
I’m paying it forward where I can, but I think I understand many folks frustration with the sheer indifference and laziness of the general public regarding these major issues.
I have several posts in Reddit communities about Lemmy and they’re still all up
There are many instances to link to
And easy to look them all up. There’s a handy list linked at the bottom of every Lemmy instance. Absolutely trivial to put them all in a database and ban anyone who mentions any of them.
Which would become a story of and in itself and would get more attention to Lemmy as a viable alternative. it doesn’t happen currently but if it does we’ll hear all about it
That’s why I mention Lemmy in my Reddit bio
Ooh, smart. They’re obviously not very smart, I wouldn’t be surprised if they straight up forgot to scan bios.
The new “Social Creddit Score”
This will certainly go extremely well for Reddit. I see no problems here. Now move along.
Most of us already have:-P
So the number itself for a specific user cannot be seen except by admins, but moderators can use the field in concert with AutoMod to have AutoMod take actions based on its value.
Considering how much Huffman likes to do manual overrides on things that Reddit The Company claims are done algorithmically, this is just an autocratic way to tune the content of the site to Huffman’s preference.
“Fuck u/spez” you say? Criticize Huffman’s idol Elon Musk? Voice any opinion that Huffman doesn’t like? That’s a low CQS for you!
I’m pretty sure somebody will create r/WhatsMyCQS where AutoMod flairs each post depending on what range the poster’s score is in.
It already exists. If you’re still on R*ddit, it’s r/whatismycqs
Edit: Altered reference because r/cqs was banned September 19, 2023 at 02:10:44 UTC.
Do it.
It already exists. If you’re on R*ddit, it’s r/whatismycqs
Edit: Altered reference because r/cqs was banned September 19, 2023 at 02:10:44 UTC.
I overwrote all my comments with links to Lemmy, and I’m still at “High”. Guess I can still do a bit more lobbying for Lemmy before I lose credibility.
So if I do a rgpd request, I should get it, right ?
general data protection regulation
gdpr, not rgpd
but yes, you should.
RGPD is the French way of spelling it, pretty common for acronyms to be backwards in French, for example UE instead of EU.
Lots of things are backwards in France
Haw-yee
I am amazed that so many people lack so much self-respect that they’re willing to allow themselves to be abused by websites like that
Reddit’s very own Social Credit System
I mean, it’s a brilliant idea to control people. Punishment alone is one thing. But punishment and reward? Really keeps people going to cower to your bidding.
You can’t directly see your score, but mods can interact with it. Guaranteed tomorrow there will be a dozen subreddits with automod set up to tell people what category their score is.
Your prediction was spot on. See the /r/cqs/ sub if you want your rating messaged to you privately, and this comment if you just want to have their automod tell you in the comments:
Here’s a comment with the actual automod script:
I couldn’t resist, I went there – only to realize I haven’t been irritated over someone else’s online shit in quite a while, so being off there is worth it for me. Also, going by personal experience, in any online forum including Reddit I very rarely if ever get my comments removed for cause, but I do not respect powermods at all: according to comments I read in the OP I was warned to expect to see that in my score, and I believe I did.
Fuck 'em, they can have it. So very glad I’m gone.
I have a high one despite having a harassment warning on my account for calling spez a loser
harassment warning on my account for calling spez a loser
Not a bad hill to go out on, lol
