Apple’s new iPhone 15 is an underwhelming ‘slap in the face,’ say disappointed fans::Apple unveiled its new iPhone 15 models this week, and some fans say they lack innovation.
What’s funny is this is the biggest update in years. The action button and USB C by themselves are a much bigger difference than last year was. Base models also got dynamic island. Smaller bezels, rounded edges, new colors. I dk how much more could change visually besides those things anyway?
The pros also have 3nm, armv9, wifi 6e, thread connectivity, new cellular bands, ai 5g modem, ray tracing, more ram, Qi2, 10 gbps port, increased repairability, titanium. 5x zoom on the Pro Max.
I think the problem that people are picking up on is that the base model is turning into a budget version of the previous year’s pro model. If you want newer tech you are forced to pay over $1,000 now. Before they had the same internals as the pros.
correct me if I’m wrong, but literally the first 3nm computing devices to land in consumer’s greedy paws. 12-atom wide transistors. what a SLAP IN THE FACE
WHERE ARE MY 11-ATOM TRANSISTORS?? HOW CAN YOU SLAP?!!
3nm does not refer to the size. It refers to performance
3nm refers to the smallest possible feature size - the transistor would be bigger than this.
It can correlate with performance, but it is not performance.
there is no 3nm feature on a 3nm transistor, that’s wrong too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_nm_process the gate pitch is 48nm, metal pitch is 24nm
lol what
3nm is the name for node that is better than 5nm which is better than 7nm, which is better than 10nm, etc. and you can only compare it to the previous node by the same manufacturer
they literally just multiply by 0.7 and round down, so after 3nm it’s 2nm, after 2nm it’s 14A - no matter what the physical size is
it’s the name for size of the planar transistor pitch that would be required to match it, NOT the actual size of ANYTHING in the transistor and hasn’t been since finfet transistors were introduced
How is USB C a big deal?
Because Apple were slow to implement the standard
I think “reluctant” is the word
It’s not that USB C is amazing, but that it is a big change for iphones. Especially compared to the past couple of years where they changed even less.
“New iphone sucks”, says fans while standing in line at the store the night before the launch.
Absolutely this, we made them this big. Well, some of you lot not me. Android 4 life!
Android 4 is a pretty old version, try and update to 13
I cringed when I thought about how insecure this user’s device is.
Fuck yeah, android ftw
And this is why Lemmy is absolutely less about “techy people who know security” and more about people who just want everything to be free for some damn reason.
I think most people want to be able to afford health, home, and happiness if they are working a full-time job in the US. Not sure how that gets confused with free. I mean, I understand why, just more boot licking of capital over labor.
Have those lines died?
I haven’t heard of anyone doing this in a long time.
Slow news day at Business Insider, I see.
I think that we’ve reached the peak of that form factor. Every real change will have to deviate so much that we wouldn’t call it smartphone any more.
Indeed. The issue for these companies. If phones aren’t enticing enough and people start hanging onto devices for an extra year that effecticely cuts their revenue in 1/4.
That’s why icloud got more expensive, it’s why google is trying to monetise your web history for ads. They’re looking for further revenue.
On the Google point, Google has always been an ad company first, and then started making hardware. Advertising is like 90% of their revenue
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But the little assistants could be so much better.
Like I want to ask Siri to do complicated tasks. Make me a reservation. Find a picture of a cow and send it to Jeff. Change my background to StarCraft. Stuff like that.
I’m happy as long as Siri doesn’t get worse like Alexa, who will turn on a fan in another room when I say “Alexa, turn on the fan” but if I say turn off the fan it turns off the correct one.
My complaint is with the bulky camera island - barely sticks out on my 11 pro, would like to see smg similar in the future (without a loss in wuality of course)
So what the fuck do you all want? It’s a phone. All the innovations that could be crammed into a candybar-style phone have pretty much been done.
If you want real innovation that means a return to the early 2000s when there were tons of different form factors in the market. Sliders, flips, phones with full keyboards, etc. But that means you either need The Only Phone Manufacturer to produce more than one product line of phones, or it means you need to consider other options.
There’s a LITTLE innovation happening- Samsung and Google are both using the new flexible OLED panels to make flipbook-style phones that look pretty cool. Motorola has one too that’s a flip phone style gadget, kinda square when closed but flips open to be a standard phone size. Sadly I don’t see any real contenders with a physical keyboard.
I mean sure you’d have a point if they didn’t price gouge the fuck out of every new phone they make.
Look up Pro 1X
I’m also not convinced the new flip phones are the new way forward and not just a gimmick. Like we got a few years of rapid flatscreen TV development, and after it started to stall manufacturers tried to push it the 3D route, but it never caught on.
I don’t want or need innovation in my phone or TV.
I’ve no interest in a flip phone. Why? Why is my option a foldable screen, but no head phone jack? That’s not something I want, that’s something I need.
Yeah I agree. It seems brain dead- you’re making a $1200 book-flip phone that opens up like a laptop to a giant screen, so you have tons of space for ports, and you can’t re-add the headphone jack? Seems overly focused on profits rather than usability.
“I’ll never leave Apple but the iPhone 11-15 are all the same exact phones,” said one user in a post on X, formerly Twitter.
I’m getting serious
vibes here
@this_is_router @L4s The 11 doesn’t have MagSafe nor, 5G. Both of those change the experience significantly.
Now the 12 and the 15. That would be more accurate.
I never used an iPhone. Got one from work but put it in a drawer and kept using my Android.
Magsafe? What does it change? A short google sounds like it’s NFC with magnets. What’s so special about it?
I’m using a pixel 5 with grapheneOS. Battery lasts for two days easy and is 80% recharged in 90mins. I have a night stand that wireless charges the phone every night. What I’m trying to say is, battery is a non problem for me
It’s more Qi charging with magnets to align the wireless charger right. More efficient wireless charging, and opens up a lot of accessories.
I use a MagSafe wallet and it’s reduced the number of things I carry with me to really just 2. Phone and car key sine the wallet is magnet attached to the phone.
I also have a MagSafe charging stand that allows me to use standby mode and it turns my phone into a nightstand clock with my schedule and things displayed.
There’s MagSafe battery packs, phone stands, car mounts, you name it.
No iPhone until now has had “Road Assistance over Satellite”. No iPhone has had these camera capabilities. On the Pro, high speed USB can open many new use cases. As a smaller feature, I’m really excited about the Thread support
How about they add a 3.5mm audio jack? That’d be a killer feature!
as an android user with 3.5mm jack since always in all of the phones I have had, I didn’t use it once since like 2017
I have a collection of wired headphones. I did use it, when phones had it.
Now it’s dongle life.
I mean… if you look beyond Apple then there’s loads of 3.5mm-ready phones available
As an Android user. People I think forget how much headphones with cords sucked to.
Skull candies were expensive, broke, and sounded like shit.
Did no one else have headphones get yanked out of your heads bent and worn out. Cords get frayed, have them get lost or stolen. It was also just nother tangled cord that I had do deal with.
I might be a rarity here and you are entitled to feel how you feel but God I look back and think about how badly I fucking don’t miss the headphones jack and all the shitty headphones brands trying to make a buck.
There are cheap and affordable shitty sounding Bluetooth earbuds and good ones these days at an affordable cost now. Just. Move. On.
I use wired headphones every day!
The only reason I use wired headphones is my company doesn’t see the problem with providing a Windows specific Bluetooth headset to my Mac
Yep, exactly. When people hate on TWS earphones they usually only have experience with ridiculously expensive Airpods or these bulky airpods clones from AliExpress, while there are in facts lots and lots of affordable and great-sounding alternatives from brands such as Sony, Xiaomi, or Haylou; the last one being my choice
The only thing I have against wireless stuff is the battery. The batteries aren’t easily replaced and it’s often the death of the headphone when the battery no longer holds charge.
It means I don’t want to spend much on wireless cans because I know they will die.
Do you own a wired earphone?
I do have a pair of wired headphones I use with my laptop and probably could find a pair or two of earphones I used pre-2017; what’s your point?
Isn’t it obvious? I thought you didn’t have a pair of those, which would explain why you didn’t use the jack on your phone.
Any particular reason you use your earphones only with your laptop?
No, I use my laptop stationarily so the cord never bothered me, unlike when using wired earphones on the go with my smartphone
Ah, that makes sense. I loved my wired pair because I sometimes forgot to keep my wireless charged, and they had a tendency to be low on charge when I needed to be on important calls. They were my backups and the audio quality was also pretty good.
My current pair of wireless, that I use when exercising, has also stopped turning ON for reasons I don’t follow, so I’m understandably miffed at having to listen to ambient noise during exercise.
It seems to me that we’ll continue to have these issues as long as we have non-removable-battery earphones, since many of the issues come from having an independant power supply and firmware components.
I don’t object to them as an optional feature, but they are about as useful as optical drives to the typical user.
I used to be one of the angry people pissed off about losing the jack.
Now that I have a few wireless earphones, I wouldn’t go back to wired. It’s a mild inconvenience to have to charge them but the battery life is decent and not have a cable getting caught on stuff whilst I’m working is super useful.
The audio quality is a tiny bit worse than wired, but unless you’re an audio engineer, you’re not going to notice.
Why not bring black floppy drives too while they’re at it?
There was always a Lightning to headphone adapter if you really wanted it but most of us had given up the headphone jack long before Apple stopped providing it
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Randos on Twitter left negative comments with little to no substantive feedback. Fire up the article!
People say this every year. The vast majority of true innovation is behind us. Why was an article written this year? Is it just because some reporter browsed X and thought, “eh, why not?”. This is not news.
Why was an article written this year? Is it just because some reporter browsed X and thought, “eh, why not?”. This is not news.
you just broke the code to modern journalism
We are both engaging with the topic. That’s the problem.
shit, you’re very much right
Apple keeps releasing the same HypePhone every year.
I have a 14 Pro, and the changes in the 15 Pro are tempting to me.
I want USB-C, I want the lighter titanium, I want the rounded edges, I want the new camera effects, I want to try the new case options, etc.
Anyone coming from an older phone would find a LOT to look forward to in the iPhone 15 or 15 Pro.
It sounds like your life is pretty sweet in order to be underwhelmed by a magic $800-$1000 device.
If they added a 3.5 headphone jack, that would be earth-shattering
🙄, Android phones have moved the same direction.
It’s time to move on guys. They are gone and IMO fuck cords especially ones I couldn’t keep in my ears because I kept getting them yanked out.
It’s just a phone. Here’s an idea: You don’t have to rush out to pathologically buy the latest thing that Apple makes. You and Apple don’t owe each other shit. If your old phone works, stick with it. And if the new iPhone doesn’t do it for you, just fuckin’ buy something else.
This article isn’t even relevant to anything. It’s just quotes from like… 5 people who posted on twitter that they were disappointed. That’s not a useful sample size, and who cares about some strangers opinion on something that isn’t for them? It’s just weird how many of these articles are coming out saying “these users” think this.
In reality, it’s more like “these cherry picked tweets match my narrative for this click bait article that will spur divisive discussion”.
The action they’re talking about is the action button… nothing to do with the usb port lol
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Phones are maturing. Are they upset when the new Toyota Camry is only modestly different than last years?
You know, it’s funny. I’ve never in my life met a Toyota Camry fanboy who was willing to fight me to the death, or at least bitterly argue with me incessantly in the comments, over their allegedly superior choice to buy a Camry or my allegedly inferior choice not to. Damn strange.
You haven’t been to car forums
@L4s it’s not like you have to buy a phone every year. They’re mature tech now. I have an iPhone 13. I will probably still be using it 2 years hence.
iPhone 12 here… hope to also be using it 2 years hence
You know L4 is a bot, right? They need zero phones. ;)
