As in, would the channel be losing out on money? Because I don’t want to take away from small creators if there is a retention rate for viewership of that exact segment, but I would prefer to skip any of the “but first check out this shitty mobile game”.

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    I won’t sit through a non-organic product placement. If I’m watching a guy weld up a body panel and he tells me how great a welder is, it doesn’t bother me. If I’m watching and he starts telling me about his VPN or a phone game, that shit’s getting skipped.

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      Product placement has got to the point where if a YouTuber genuinely wants to recommend a product he’s got to be like “seriously guys I didn’t get paid for this and I even paid my own money for this welder, this is not a sponsorship, I just think it’s really good and you should check it out”

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      I really like when they drink the green goo and pretend it’s the best.

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    I recommend sponsorblock browser extension. Skips sponsored segments automatically.

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    I use ublock origin and sponsorblock, I’m not sitting through ads or product shillings.

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    Don’t worry about channel creators losing money. It may seem like a dick move, but it’s the right thing to do. When channels see that they aren’t making money on Youtube ad revenue, they’ll be forced to either find another source of income (merch, patreon, alternate site, etc), or quit.

    That’s better for you, them, and society as a whole since it reduces the power of a monopoly owned by an evil company.

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    Immediately, no. The advert payments don’t pay attention to you skipping the advert.
    Over time, as people skip the ads, the value that advertisers put on the ads will diminish, as they realise that people won’t see them.
    The best solution would be to make the advert relevant to the video, or making them actually interesting (Like TomSka’s over the top SurfShark ads), but that’s me overthinking things again.

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      How do the advertisers know how frequently in-video ads have been skipped? Do they ask for historical data on this from the YouTuber before brokering the sponsorship for an individual video?

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        They don’t, they see how many people use the special link (Join now at www.superaids.com/yewtewber for 10% off your first order!) and if they find that fewer people are responding to the ads, the ads are simply worth less. If you skip ads without thinking, or worse with a plugin, then you won’t ever see the ads that might actually interest you, and the use of those links will decrease.

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    I am paying $15 (or is it $18 already) for YouTube each month not to watch the adds. I am skipping those angrily on principle.

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      YouTube premium, as far as I’m aware, still shares some of your monthly membership fee to the creators you watch to offset not seeing ads. I also am a premium member and feel no guilt at all about skipping sponsorship sections because of this.

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      If you are on Android, you really should download ReVanced. You can add adblock and sponsorblock, and you will barely ever see ads again.

      I actually refused to watch YT on mobile because it was too annoying an experience, but 'vanced makes it much more like the good old days of no ads everywhere.

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      Damn paying $15 for YouTube when ublock origin and sponsorblock are browser extensions, and YouTube Revanced does everything YouTube plus gives you entirely for free on android.

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          Get a cheap android streaming stick and then sideload Smarttube next. All of YouTube premiums features for free including sponsorblock, ad block, miniplayer outside of the app, etc

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    As far as I know sponsors have no access to data on how many people watch their segments as opposed to whole-video viewership, unless they force the creator to disclose it which I doubt happens basically at all. Creator gets paid upfront and a kickback for using their link, not for you watching an in-video ad itself.

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    I do pay for YouTube premium. This means the creator of the video gets payed by watchtime. Why should I pay for watching an in-video ad?

    For normal users it doesn’t matter, as the creator is payed by view, not watchtime. And from what I know, sponsor deals are either fixed value or fixed value per X views. So it doesn’t impact them if people are skipping.

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    No, the creator has been paid for the sponsorship beforehand. If you were never going to get the products that are sponsored then there’s no difference between skipping it or letting it play and ignoring it.

    I mean yeah, youtube does track the times in videos people do watch and are engaged in, but by skimming through almost any video you can see many people skip around and don’t actually watch the full videos.

    Sponsorblock just saves me from manually skipping past the sponsorships. I was never going to buy a shilled product to begin with anyway. I buy things based on my own research, not what a youtuber says I should buy.

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      Some sponsors will pay additional money based on how many people use a provided promo link or promo code, but if you never click/use those anyway, you’re not costing the channel anything.

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    If sponsors cared they can look at the,( I don’t know the name) bar that shows how far the video in a long. On you there is a chart that says where people will skip to ( on computer). On almost every sponsored video there is a huge spike right at the end of the sponsorship. It takes a few days for this to show up but it always shows the same spike

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    The custom-made “sponsors” sections that are baked into the video are not paid per view. You can freely skip them without harming the content creator. iirc they get paid per video upload, not per view. it’s only the “live” separate ads that appear prior to the video, mid-roll, etc. that they get paid per view (and would be missing if you block them).

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      I release music via distributor to all music streaming platforms including YouTube. When playing my music, youtube puts ads before and sometimes after the video. Does that mean I’m getting a share of that ad revenue by default? Or is it for specific content creators that have a minimum number of subscribers only?

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        Youtube content creators get paid via a few different methods:

        1. Pre-roll and mid-roll ads. This is youtube’s actual and intended monetization method. These are ads that play that are separate from the video and are personalized per-user. They often have a “skip” button you can click after a few seconds. Youtube pays creators per view for these ads. You should check youtube’s monetization section on the channel settings to set this all up.

        2. Sponsors. These are baked into the video where the content creator usually goes something like “Yeah I enjoy my switch, but do you know what I like more? raid shadow legends!” These are one-time payments made prior to the video’s release, and are not paid per view. The view count on the video and whether or not people are actually watching the sponsored section is irrelevant.

        3. Patreon and other patreon-like services. These are entirely unrelated to viewcount or ads, and are just people paying monthly on some other site (typically patreon or locals) to help fund the channel.

        For music, I’m not sure at all how the youtube music platform works. But afaik youtube music is just youtube videos in a different format, so you’d be going with method #1 with the pre-roll ads.

        Typically youtube’s monetization model requires that you actually set things up, and in order to do so you need to meet particular criteria (particular subscriber counts, view counts, etc). I know musicians work with music labels, so that may work differently depending on what’s going on for you. But if you’re specifically managing a youtube channel where you upload videos, then #1 applies and just check the monetization section. I don’t think it’s “by default”.

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        music is different. youtube has a deal with your label which states they pay $0.0000x dollars per stream, and your label gives you a part of that.

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          Right, that I’m aware of. So I guess youtube just keeps that ad revenue for the ones they show with my music.

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            If you’re going through a music label then ask the company you’re working with. They absolutely get paid per view (as per the pre-roll ads) if you aren’t managing the uploads yourself. But what they pay you may be different depending on what they’re doing.

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    I guess in theory yes, because sponsors would eventually notice a drop in people spending money through the creator.

    Personally, I haven’t and won’t ever use a product just because my favourite entertainer was paid to say its good. Before SponsorBlock I just manually skipped or tuned them out anyway, so I never counted in the first place.