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    Conservatives genuinely support Russia invading innocent European countries and committing genocide. This is just who conservatives are.

    Conservatism is a plague of oppression that is long overdue for a cure. There is no place in a modern civilization for conservatives.

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        This is what’s going on. I really don’t understand how it’s not very obvious to everyone that the entire Republican party has been infiltrated by the Russians.

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          What If they haven’t really been “infiltrated”, though, in the conventional sense? What if they are deliberately inviting the Russian Influence in, because they like the Russian model of Capitalism better than ours?

          I believe they are trying to build an Oligarchy here, on purpose, because they are planning to become the oligarchs.

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            I’m kinda more in this camp. I think Russia and the GOP are working together (kinda hard to live through 2016 without believing that on some level) but does that mean that Russian intelligence has “flipped” the GOP? I don’t think so.

            I think it’s more of a convergent goals kinda situation. I think one of the things that the GOP wants to do to American politics is turn it into a open moneymaking venture. Not saying that it isn’t defacto already there, but it is still looked down upon and technically criminal behavior to accept bribes and the like. Matters of enforcement aside.

            Not only is that kind of blatent corruption already prevalent in Russian politics, Russia for there part would love a united states that they could just bribe to get off their back. The GOP is trying to comodify American politics and by consequence American power abroad and Russia is looking to be their number one customer.

            Does that mean that Trump gets marching orders daily from Putin? No, probably not. There’s probably some level of communication between them, but I doubt any of that takes the form of any kind of directives or anything.

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            Nah, I don’t think so, they’re compromised. Lindsay Graham is the perfect example of that. He was almost a decent human until he went all in on Trump, he didn’t go there willingly.

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            I do think this is more on point. They want a dictator and oligarchs so they see Putin’s Russia as a kindred spirit.

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    My mom was bitching about this last night…after supporting efforts by the US & NATO when Putin first went in.

    Now we need to stop sending money over there, it’s not our responsibility, let Europe deal with it, get rid of NATO, etc etc etc. Apparently if the US stops sending aid, we could feed every hungry child & house every homeless veteran.

    I told her those problems existed before 2022 and we didn’t fix them then, so this doesn’t really affect those things.

    “But we could! If we wanted to!”

    Well yeah - we don’t want to. This is irreverent to that. I just figured these were the new MAGA talking points & changed the subject.

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    10 years ago if you had pitched this as the story line for a movie: Republicans aiding Russia in invading Europe you would have been, at best, laughed out of the room.

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      And yet 10 years ago is when Romney warned us. I remember having a conversation with my mother in which I sounded off incredulously about it, “I don’t buy this red scare 2.0 thing” to which my mother said, “there’s probably something to it if someone says you shouldn’t trust their friends.”

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      The next moment there was a tremendous commotion. The banners and posters with which the square was decorated were all wrong! Quite half of them had the wrong faces on them. It was sabotage! The agents of Goldstein had been at work! There was a riotous interlude while posters were ripped from the walls, banners torn to shreds and trampled underfoot. The Spies performed prodigies of activity in clambering over the rooftops and cutting the streamers that fluttered from the chimneys. But within two or three minutes it was all over.

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    I wonder why they care so much. It’s as if someone is telling/paying them all to put the Ukraine support on hold. I wonder who 🤔

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    all they know is there are vulnerable people, and they need to be able to threaten them in some way, and use them as a hostage

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    This is because Putty-boo either has compromat, or is bribing the shit out of them. (which is, itself, compromat.)

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    I’m just here to document the lemmy tankies once again allying themselves with the far right.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The Pentagon is reportedly planning to exempt aid to Ukraine from the impact of a potential U.S. government shutdown, sending MAGA Republicans opposed to the assistance into a tizzy.

    Former President Donald Trump, who has claimed that he would personally be able to end the Russia-Ukraine war “in 24 hours,” has demanded that Republicans “defund all aspects” of the government as the September 30 deadline fast approaches.

    Pentagon spokesperson Chris Sherwood told Politico on Thursday that a decision had been made to exempt Ukraine operations during a potential shutdown, just after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited Washington, D.C., to make the case for more military aid for his nation’s efforts to fend off the Russian invasion.

    But the only thing the @JoeBiden administration cares about is funding their proxy war in Ukraine," wrote former Republican Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake.

    Department of Defense spokesperson Chris Sherwood said in a statement emailed to Newsweek that Operation Atlantic Resolve, the name given to the mission to aid Ukraine, was exempt from a shutdown because it “is an excepted activity under a government lapse in appropriations.”

    A group of 29 Republican members of Congress sent a letter to the White House on Thursday, vowing to oppose more aid, calling it “an open-ended commitment to supporting the war in Ukraine of an indeterminate nature.”


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