A very NSFW website called Pornpen.ai is churning out an endless stream of graphic, AI-generated porn. We have mixed feelings.

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    “eh I’ll take a look”

    first thing I see is a woman on her back with her legs behind her head, smooth skin where her genitals should be and nipples in the middle of her buttocks.

    “alright then”

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    I’m not sure if I have the strength to clutch these pearls any harder over these articles. I peaked 8 articles ago.

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      Weakling.

      I’ve been clutching so hard, the pearls fused into my flesh years ago. I’ve bankrupted myself buying more pearls, inserted one by one into my clenched fist.

      Luckily the mere sight of me - a lurching pearlescent beast with glinting pearls for eyes - causes clams to voluntarily offer their own in reverance, my own unending supply.

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    At what point was porn NOT graphic, but now this thing IS GRAPHIC. Are we talking all caps, or just a small difference between the live stuff and the AI shit? Inquiring minds want to know.

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    People who insist on real flesh porn will ultimately be viewed as weirdo’s out of touch with reality like people who insist everything sounds better on vinyl.

    Fast forward 25 years past the first Ai war and a ragged but triumphant humanity must rediscover the lost art of waxing.

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    Not sure how people will be so into this shit. It’s all so generic looking

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      The actual scary use case for AI porn is that if you can get 50 or more photos of the same person’s face (almost anyone with an Instagram account), you can train your own LoRA model to generate believable images of them, which means you can now make “generic looking” porn with pretty much any person you want to see in it. Basically the modern equivalent of gluing cutouts of your crush’s face onto the Playboy centerfold, only with automated distribution over the Internet…

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        Using a LoRA was the old way, these days you can use Roop, FaceSwapLab or ReActor, which not only can work with as little as a single good photo, they also produce better locking results than LoRA. There is no time consuming training either, just drag&drog an image and you get results in a couple of seconds.

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          So how will any progressive politician be able to be elected then? Because all the fascists would have to do is generate porn with their opponent’s likeness to smear them.

          Or even worse, deepfake evidence of rape.

          Or even worse than that, generate CSAM with their likeness portrayed abusing a child.

          They could use that to imprison not only their political opponents, but anyone for anything, and people would think whoever is being disappeared this week actually is a pedophile or a rapist and think nothing of it.

          Actual victims’ movements would be chopped off at the knee, because now there’s no definitive way to prove an actual rape happened since defendants could credibly claim real videos are just AI generated crap and get acquitted. No rape or abuse claims would ever be believed because there is now no way to establish objective truth.

          This would leave the fascists open to do whatever they want to anybody with no serious consequences.

          But no one cares because they want AI to do their homework for them so they don’t have to think, write, or learn to be creative on their own. They want to sit around on their asses and do nothing.

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            People will have to learn to stop believing everything they see. This has been possible with Photoshop for even more than a decade now. All that’s changed is that it takes less skill and time now.

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              That’s not possible with AI-generated images impossible to distinguish from reality, or even expertly done photoshops. The practice, and generative AI as a whole, needs to be banned. They’re putting AI in photoshop too so ban that garbage too.

              It has to stop. We can’t allow the tech industry to enable fascism and propaganda.

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                  Nah, that Thanos I-am-inevitable shit doesn’t work on me. They can ban AI, you all just don’t want it because generative AI allows you to steal other people’s talent so you can pretend you have your own

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            Because that’s called Libel and is very much illegal in practically any country on earth - and depending on the country it’s either easy or trivial to put forth and win a case of libel in court, since it’s the onus of the defendant to prove what they said was entirely true, and “just trust me and this actress I hired, bro” doesn’t cut it.

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                The burden of liability will then fall on the media company, which can then be sued for not carrying out due dilligance in reporting.

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            We’re going to go back to the old model of trust, before videos and photos existed. Consistent, coherent stories from sources known to be trustworthy will be key. Physical evidence will be helpful as well.

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              But then people will say “Well how do we know they’re not lying?” and then it’s back to square 1.

              Victims might not ever be able to get justice again if this garbage is allowed to continue. Society’s going so off-track.

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      AI is still a brand new tech. It’s like getting mad at AM radio for being staticy and low quality. It’ll improve with time as we get better tech.

      Personally I can’t wait to see what the future holds for AI porn. I’m imagining being able to get exactly what you want with a single prompt, and it looks just as real as reality. No more opening 50 tabs until you find the perfect video. Sign me the fuck up.

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          The article mentioned that at least one OnlyFans creator reached out to make a model of their own content and also mentioned that some OnlyFans creators outsource writers to chat with fans. I don’t think this will meaningfully affect cam girls’ jobs. Once we are able to make live animated images realtime with convincing speech and phrases then probably.

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    Does it say something about society that our automatons are better at creating similated genitals than they are at hands?

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      It says that we are biologically predisposed to sex, which we are, like animals, which we are.

      Unsure if it has anything to do about society…

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      They suck quite a lot at genitals too. But what makes hands especially tricky is simply that they are pretty damn complex. A hand has five fingers that can all move independently, the hand can rotate in all kinds of way and the individual parts of a hand can all occlude each other. There is a lot of stuff you have to get right to produce a good looking hand and it is especially difficult when you are just a simple 2D algorithm that has little idea of 3D structure or motion.

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      On a visual level, we are more interested in genitals than hands? Also, faces.

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    Went and had a look and it’s some of the funniest stuff I’ve seen all day! A few images come close to realism but a lot of them are the sort AI fever dream stuff that you could not make up.

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    AI porn for the longest time has just looked so off to me, idk what it is

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    Eh it’s still very obvious.

    I predict that small imperfections will get even hotter as time goes by

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      I remember reading that this may be already happening to some extent, eg people sharing tips on creating it on the deep web, maybe through prompt engineer, fine tuning or pretraining.

      I don’t know how those models are made, but I do wonder the ones that need retraining/finetuning by using real csam can be classified as breaking the law.

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          If a search engine cannot index it then it is the deep web. So yes, Discord chats are technically part of the deep web.

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              Wikipedia on the deep web

              The deep web,[1] invisible web,[2] or hidden web[3] are parts of the World Wide Web whose contents are not indexed by standard web search-engine programs.

              Try accessing a Discord channel through your browser without being logged in. They aren’t indexed by search engines because you have to be logged in.

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                  I don’t care about some arbitrary challenge to get money from you. I’m trying to get you to think critically. If search engines like Google don’t index it then it’s part of the deep web. Just because things like Discord aren’t what people typically mean when people talk about the deep web doesn’t make Discord chats not part of the deep web.

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      Hentai maybe. But realistic shit is 100% illegal, even just making such an AI would require breaking the law as you’d have to use real CSAM to train it.

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      There was an article the other day about underage girls in France having AI nudes spread around based on photos as young as 12. Definitely harm there.

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      CivitAI is a pretty perverted site at the best of times. But there’s a disturbing amount of age adjustment plugins to make images of children on the same site they have plugins to make sex acts. It’s clear some people definitely are.

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        Some models also prefer children for some reason and then you have to put mature/adult in positive prompt and child in negative

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          I think part of the problem is that there is a lot of anime in the models and when you don’t filter that out with negative prompts it can distort the proportions of realistic images (e.g. everybody gets huge breasts unless you negative prompt it away). In general models are always heavily biased towards what they were trained on, and when you use a prompt or LORA that worked well on one model on another, you can get weird results. There is always a lot of nudging involved with keywords and weights to get the images to were you want it.

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        Typically, the laws get amended so that anything that looks like CSAM is now CSAM. Expect porn generators tuned for minor characters to get outlawed very quickly.

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      Well, to develop such a service, you need training data, i.e. lots of real child pornography in your possession.

      Legality for your viewers will also differ massively around the world, so your target audience may not be very big.

      And you probably need investors, which likely have less risky projects to invest into.

      Well, and then there’s also the factor of some humans just not wanting to work on disgusting, legal grey area stuff.

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        Unfortunately, no, you just need training data on children in general and training data with legal porn, and these tools can combine it.

        It’s already being done, which is disgusting but not surprising.

        People have worried about this for a long time. I remember a subplot of a sci-fi series that got into this. (I think it was The Lost Fleet, 15 years ago).

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      You’d also have to convince them that it’s not real. It’ll probably end up creating laws tbh. Then there are weird things like Japan where lolis are legal, but uncensored genitals aren’t, even drawn.